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I love vegetable soup too, I'm a big veggies lover generally... fried pork is not my cup of tea definitely :biggrin:

Yeah, pork is harder to stomach, but if he likes it, why not! :)
I'm amazed fish is not featured in that diet...
 
Btw, is there anyone has links to all Yuzuru's programs without commentaries?
Just one per each program is enough. I'm making a playlist of his programs music and I need the videos without commentaries so Soundhound can detect it and I can find the exact track. Like, Zigeunerweisen. Apparently it's played by a Japanese violinist.

You can listen the playlist here (https://open.spotify.com/user/ms.fhandayani/playlist/1gsjwSXvHkHN5Svq6284oN). Still WIP though.
 
Here is the page of his department at Waseda, unfortunately in Japanese (http://www.waseda.jp/e-school/faculty/human_informatics.html)
As far as I remember he said his program was Human Information and Cognitive Science, but it seems they are separated. I wonder which one he chose :scratch2:

About Worlds podium, my dream will always be Yuzu, Javi, Shoma or Yuzu, Shoma, Javi, I won't mind. I'm okay too if Patrick or Boyang (he's grown on me :3) replace Shoma. Yeah, I too wish this time the 'uncles' will prove they are not easy to be beaten

Btw, confession: now I'm redownloading my whole music library in FLAC because of Yuzu. I feel ashamed to listen to loosy music. Oh, this boy really affects me :drama:

I know about "Human Information and Cognitive Science" but I must admit that I don't really see what it's about. I should research for a more precise description of the courses.

(As for Javi on the podium... I'd really be glad, but... I've got the feeling he's lost part of his motivation this year, he seemed rather gloomy at the GP series and europeans... I know he's very good for peaking at worlds, but I don't know. It breaks my heart to see him like this tbh. I'd be glad with a podium with Yuzu on top (obviously), but I think any combination of 2nd and 3rd place will break my heart one way or another. I love the veterans, I love the young ones (Shoma a bit more than the others, Nathan a bit less)... The best would be 6 perfect skates, then I'd be happy <3 )
 
I know about "Human Information and Cognitive Science" but I must admit that I don't really see what it's about. I should research for a more precise description of the courses.

(As for Javi on the podium... I'd really be glad, but... I've got the feeling he's lost part of his motivation this year, he seemed rather gloomy at the GP series and europeans... I know he's very good for peaking at worlds, but I don't know. It breaks my heart to see him like this tbh. I'd be glad with a podium with Yuzu on top (obviously), but I think any combination of 2nd and 3rd place will break my heart one way or another. I love the veterans, I love the young ones (Shoma a bit more than the others, Nathan a bit less)... The best would be 6 perfect skates, then I'd be happy <3 )

He did pretty well score-wise at Euros though? Even though the performance wasn't great. It would be quite a feat for top 3 to have 300+ scores :scratch3: plus some level of inflation...

Anyway, I don't really care if Javi medals at Worlds this year (he's got enough of those :laugh:) but I would be heartbroken if he doesn't get his Olympic medal. Is it just me or did men's skating get light years more competitive in the last couple of months?!?!?! That's such crappy timing for him :(

ETA: I'll eat my worlds if he outright wins in Pyeongchang though :laugh:
 
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He did pretty well score-wise at Euros though? Even though the performance wasn't great. It would be quite a feat for top 3 to have 300+ scores :scratch3: plus some level of inflation...

Anyway, I don't really care if Javi medals at Worlds this year (he's got enough of those :laugh:) but I would be heartbroken if he doesn't get his Olympic medal. Is it just me or did men's skating get light years more competitive in the last couple of months?!?!?! That's such crappy timing for him :(

ETA: I'll eat my worlds if he outright wins in Pyeongchang though :laugh:

His SP was pretty great at Euros, but the LP... he really hurt himself, and that's unusual for him. And he has looked unusually unhappy all the season, or am I imagining things ? But perhaps I'm unnecessarily pessimistic and he'll rock at worlds as usual, and we'll see a beautiful hug between our favourite teammates on the podium (but pleaaaase this time, gold for Yuzu !) :). Yuzu - Shoma - Javi is the dream combination for awesome interactions on podiums :laugh:

As for field getting more competitive one year before the olympics, isn't it usual ?
 
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Oh BTW I remember reading that his major was a combination of stats and psychology/cognitive science. So like computational neuroscience? Or computational psychology? He said he was interested in math too. He also said he wanted to do a psychology major so he can perhaps focus on sports/skating psychology in the future...? So it does sound a bit sciencey :handw:
 
Oh BTW I remember reading that his major was a combination of stats and psychology/cognitive science. So like computational neuroscience? Or computational psychology? He said he was interested in math too. He also said he wanted to do a psychology major so he can perhaps focus on sports/skating psychology in the future...? So it does sound a bit sciencey :handw:

That's why I'm interested, I'm sciencey myself (but more on the physics side). I love the fact that he loves maths <3 (too bad he's not as passionate about english :laugh2:)
 
Oh BTW I remember reading that his major was a combination of stats and psychology/cognitive science. So like computational neuroscience? Or computational psychology? He said he was interested in math too. He also said he wanted to do a psychology major so he can perhaps focus on sports/skating psychology in the future...? So it does sound a bit sciencey :handw:
I'm doing psychology as well hehe. Basically psych itself is lots of stats already so hmmm... I've never been much int in sports psych though, I just know you earn a lot XD haha. But I'm sure it'll fit Yuzu well.
 
His SP was pretty great at Euros, but the LP... he really hurt himself, and that's unusual for him. And he has looked unusually unhappy all the season, or am I imagining things ? But perhaps I'm unnecessarily pessimistic and he'll rock at worlds as usual, and we'll see a beautiful hug between our favourite teammates on the podium (but pleaaaase this time, gold for Yuzu !) :). Yuzu - Shoma - Javi is the dream combination for awesome interactions on podiums :laugh:

As for field getting more competitive one year before the olympics, isn't it usual ?

Yeah I hope Javi was okay after Euros.

And you're right, generally if it's gonna pick up it's around this time, but I don't think it's ever picked up quite this fast!! Thinking to last quad, it was sort of stagnant, people added maybe 1 quad at most, and not always landed. And with ladies, I feel like it's been more or less stagnant.
 
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That's why I'm interested, I'm sciencey myself (but more on the physics side). I love the fact that he loves maths <3 (too bad he's not as passionate about english :laugh2:)

Same I'm a sciencey person too( just that I like bio more). Not sure how I feel about math though (it's a love hate relationship) haha. In any case, I love that Yuzu is so all rounded. On the other hand, I'm too lazy to do anything T.T
 
Yeah I hope Javi was okay after Euros.

And you're right, generally if it's gonna pick up it's around this time, but I don't think it's ever picked up quite this fast!! Thinking to last quad, it was sort of stagnant, people added maybe 1 quad at most, and not always landed. And with ladies, I feel like it's been more or less stagnant.

I think in a sense it's a bit Yuzu's fault ? He pushed the sport so high that his contenders had no choice but up the tech to get a chance to beat him... But in reaction he upped his tech too and the vicious circle was born :)
 
He did pretty well score-wise at Euros though? Even though the performance wasn't great. It would be quite a feat for top 3 to have 300+ scores :scratch3: plus some level of inflation...

Anyway, I don't really care if Javi medals at Worlds this year (he's got enough of those :laugh:) but I would be heartbroken if he doesn't get his Olympic medal. Is it just me or did men's skating get light years more competitive in the last couple of months?!?!?! That's such crappy timing for him :(

ETA: I'll eat my worlds if he outright wins in Pyeongchang though :laugh:

I'm with you. I actually liked the 4CC podium just fine and would like a repeat of it for worlds, except I want Yuzu on top this time. If Yuzu wins and Shoma medals then you have one happy camper over here (same for the olympics). And yeah, Men's got more competitive practically overnight. I honestly said around GPF that it felt like a changing of the guard of sorts. I think if Javi wants an Olympic medal he'll probably want to upgrade his content so that he isn't banking on others making mistakes. But I guess he could also do what he does best and rise to the occasion while others make mistakes and then it works out for him. People certainly make mistakes at the Olympics so...
 
OK, folks, while there's a temporary lull in the activities (well, compared to yesterday), I'll slip in my NHK 2015 translation.

Hope I don't smother discussion with it - just feel free to carry on. Those who are interested may enjoy reading this.
Yeah, and I remember about GPF 2015 replay. Might get down to it this night!

NHK 2015 SP Russian Eurosport

- … Kovtun comes 4th so far, but let’s wait – we saw how Yuzuru Hanyu skated at his first event, which was Skate Canada. Hanyu had a horrible SP there – he only got 28 points of technical score. He lost nearly all the elements, and he hadn’t received so little for his technical score ever since he was a little kid – only 28 points. But now it’s Japan and weeks have gone by – AND he’s Olympic Champion and World Champion. Frederic Chopin.

- He isn’t doing much, but you can’t take your eyes off him! Oh, the way he kept his balance! He fought hard for it – there was a lean on his Salchow, but he was able to pull out of it.
- Clean! Two Toeloops – 4-3!
- Very clean! He gets a lot of GOE for this combo… 28! He’s hardly behind Boyang Jin’s technical score accumulation pattern, but he’s going to get higher PCS.
- 3A from such a difficult entry.
- He was the first one to execute 3A with such an entry, when he doesn’t follow the classical pattern of going into it on his right foot and then jumping off the left foot. But there’s a little trick there he’s using, he helps himself a bit with his toepick.
- As a rule at the end of the program they have a step sequence.
- Well, he finished his musical piece…
- … like a samurai! Not like it was Chopin!
- … Yes, like Chopin! As if he were famous pianist or composer Frederic Chopin.
- I said, not like it was Chopin!
- Sorry I misheard you!
- With a glare killing his rivals! Look, 59.07!
- Well, he might go over 100.
- Over 100? Of course he will! His personal record is 101.45, but that was in Sochi, during the Olympic Games, and it’s a well known fact that judges give more GOE at World Championships and Olympic Games. But in this case Boyang Jin’s score might affect Yuzuru’s score – Boyang Jin was generously marked in technical score and he was scored very well in components too – his components are on average just under 8: 7.82, 7.93, 7.89, 7.93 – nearly 8! If he adds a little more, Boyang Jin will start receiving components over 8 on average, and then skaters like Yuzuru Hanyu, Patrick Chan and Javier Fernandez will be threatened. That’s a subtle aspect which the judges feel very well, so Hanyu’s marks will be… well, his skating also deserves it, but his score will be high, very generous. Let’s look, that’s his Salchow – with a lean, a bit underrotated. - Oh, will it be downgraded? No, they won’t…
- There’s a slight underrotation…
- There’s one, but it’s less than a quarter of a rotation!
- It’s less than a quarter, that’s right. Let it be half a quarter.
- Now they’re showing us his quad Toeloop, let’s look carefully. I want to see his 3A – he does it so gracefully and so cunningly. This one’s also clean, and this (about 3T)? It’s also clean. He’s such a fantastic skater – he’s got flexibility, extension, lightness, musicality, delicate, yet powerful skating… Look here, (at his 3A) I think he helps himself with his toepick?
- He must have helped himself! He needed to slow down into his jump…
- No, he does accelerate himself with it! (Or assists himself into his 3A). But he’s the only one to jump 3A in this way…
- … the right way is to jump off the toepick.
- An excellent skate from the Olympic Champion.
- Yes, this is excellent in every respect, he exceeds every skater who’s performed in his skating skills, very light gliding, and jumps too, he skated last…
… and in his glare!
- Yeah, he just pierces with his glare! And there he is, smiling as ever, always thanking the ice, his coach, the audience… Well, how much? 100? I don’t there will be a record, he won’t reach 101… 106?! Oh, I’ve miscalculated that much!!! I thought they wouldn’t risk giving him that much! 106!!! In this case they’re telling Boyang Jin: “Get back in line! You’re too young!”
- “Get back in line for now!”, and you see why – this shows the progress in figure skating.
- Well, if he gets 106 now, what score should they give him at the World Championship?
- He has to skate that well there and the judges will be different. There will be a different skate there, and it’s not soon.
- Well, I think if Chan sees this, I think he’s incapable of speaking now!
 
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I meant specifically the men. They are more susceptible to the curse than the other disciplines. It seems like those who are immune to the curse and it even benefits them are American men. So being reigning world champ helps your Olympic chances if you are American. So I guess if Nate wins worlds this year...But on top of that, it's even more rare to repeat as an Olympic champ. Even Plush couldn't do it, so I don't want to heap that expectation on Yuzu's shoulders (even though I will be there and would love to see it).

But arguably most of the men who were reigning WC and then lost OG are Canadian men? And Arakawa was not the reigning WC when she won OG.
87/88, Orser; 91/92 Browning; 93/94 Browning; 97/98 Stojko; 13/14 Chan? I'd argue I kind of don't believe in this kind of thing since ice is slippery and whether someone is a reigning WC or not will not affect anything with their chances as OG. One thing that they have in common was that their skate was horrible (or not as good as the winner) during olympic. Plush did not go to 2005 worlds so that year kind of didn't count (he probably would have won against Lambiel).

Although, I agree that being a repeat OGM is very hard; and at this point, if he can do a good skate that he can be proud of, that should have been enough regardless of the result. He can't control things like politics and all during OG but he at least can practice and prepare himself to skate well :)
 
OK, folks, while there's a temporary lull in the activities (well, compared to yesterday), I'll slip in my NHK 2015 translation.

Hope I don't smother discussion with it - just feel free to carry on. Those who are interested may enjoy reading this.
Yeah, and I remember about GPF 2015 replay. Might get down to it this night!

NHK 2015 SP Russian Eurosport

- … Kovtun comes 4th so far, but let’s wait – we saw how Yuzuru Hanyu skated at his first event, which was Skate Canada. Hanyu had a horrible SP there – he only got 28 points of technical score. He lost nearly all the elements, and he hadn’t received so little for his technical score ever since he was a little kid – only 28 points. But now it’s Japan and weeks have gone by – AND he’s Olympic Champion and World Champion. Frederic Chopin.

- He isn’t doing much, but you can’t take your eyes off him! Oh, the way he kept his balance! He fought hard for it – there was a lean on his Salchow, but he was able to pull out of it.
- Clean! Two Toeloops – 4-3!
- Very clean! He gets a lot of GOE for this combo… 28! He’s hardly behind Boyang Jin’s technical score accumulation pattern, but he’s going to get higher PCS.
- 3A from such a difficult entry.
- He was the first one to execute 3A with such an entry, when he doesn’t follow the classical pattern of going into it on his right foot and then jumping off the left foot. But there’s a little trick there he’s using, he helps himself a bit with his toepick.
- As a rule at the end of the program they have a step sequence.
- Well, he finished his musical piece…
- … like a samurai! Not like it was Chopin!
- … Yes, like Chopin! As if he were famous pianist or composer Frederic Chopin.
- I said, not like it was Chopin!
- Sorry I misheard you!
- With a glare killing his rivals! Look, 59.07!
- Well, he might go over 100.
- Over 100? Of course he will! His personal record is 101.45, but that was in Sochi, during the Olympic Games, and it’s a well known fact that judges give more GOE at World Championships and Olympic Games. But in this case Boyang Jin’s score might affect Yuzuru’s score – Boyang Jin was generously marked in technical score and he was scored very well in components too – his components are on average just under 8: 7.82, 7.93, 7.89, 7.93 – nearly 8! If he adds a little more, Boyang Jin will start receiving components over 8 on average, and then skaters like Yuzuru Hanyu, Patrick Chan and Javier Fernandez will be threatened. That’s a subtle aspect which the judges feel very well, so Hanyu’s marks will be… well, his skating also deserves it, but his score will be high, very generous. Let’s look, that’s his Salchow – with a lean, a bit underrotated. - Oh, will it be downgraded? No, they won’t…
- There’s a slight underrotation…
- There’s one, but it’s less than a quarter of a rotation!
- It’s less than a quarter, that’s right. Let it be half a quarter.
- Now they’re showing us his quad Toeloop, let’s look carefully. I want to see his 3A – he does it so gracefully and so cunningly. This one’s also clean, and this (about 3T)? It’s also clean. He’s such a fantastic skater – he’s got flexibility, extension, lightness, musicality, delicate, yet powerful skating… Look here, (at his 3A) I think he helps himself with his toepick?
- He must have helped himself! He needed to slow down into his jump…
- No, he does accelerate himself with it! (Or assists himself into his 3A). But he’s the only one to jump 3A in this way…
- … the right way is to jump off the toepick.
- An excellent skate from the Olympic Champion.
- Yes, this is excellent in every respect, he exceeds every skater who’s performed in his skating skills, very light gliding, and jumps too, he skated last…
… and in his glare!
- Yeah, he just pierces with his glare! And there he is, smiling as ever, always thanking the ice, his coach, the audience… Well, how much? 100? I don’t there will be a record, he won’t reach 101… 106?! Oh, I’ve miscalculated that much!!! I thought they wouldn’t risk giving him that much! 106!!! In this case they’re telling Boyang Jin: “Get back in line! You’re too young!”
- “Get back in line for now!”, and you see why – this shows the progress in figure skating.
- Well, if he gets 106 now, what score should they give him at the World Championship?
- He has to skate that well there and the judges will be different. There will be a different skate there, and it’s not soon.
- Well, I think if Chan sees this, I think he’s incapable of speaking now!

Thanks for the translation!
So...
What are we going to talk about today :D?
 
But arguably most of the men who were reigning WC and then lost OG are Canadian men? And Arakawa was not the reigning WC when she won OG.
87/88, Orser; 91/92 Browning; 93/94 Browning; 97/98 Stojko; 13/14 Chan? I'd argue I kind of don't believe in this kind of thing since ice is slippery and whether someone is a reigning WC or not will not affect anything with their chances as OG. One thing that they have in common was that their skate was horrible (or not as good as the winner) during olympic. Plush did not go to 2005 worlds so that year kind of didn't count (he probably would have won against Lambiel).

Although, I agree that being a repeat OGM is very hard; and at this point, if he can do a good skate that he can be proud of, that should have been enough regardless of the result. He can't control things like politics and all during OG but he at least can practice and prepare himself to skate well :)

Plushenko lost (got silver). Canadians have lost (got silver), Lambiel lost (got silver), past soviets lost. I'm not considering the circumstances of Plush being able to compete in 2005. It was still Lambiel as world champ. It's almost like incumbent world champs are a good bet for silver though (if you're not American)!

As for Yuzu, I agree. I just want to see him put skates out there on Olympic ice that he can be proud of and know he left it all out there.
 
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I think in a sense it's a bit Yuzu's fault ? He pushed the sport so high that his contenders had no choice but up the tech to get a chance to beat him... But in reaction he upped his tech too and the vicious circle was born :)

I don't know if it's so much in reaction, as it is him trying to catch up with his original plan. I do think he feels he has been set back, in terms of progress, for an entire season 14-15. If he ups his tech content in worlds, you could say it's in reaction, or it might be his reaction to 4S3T :P


Er... 4S3T?
there, Fayruza, I worked it in!
 
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