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Medvedeva WDs from GPF

There is no way she could compete/train at least a month for now. Bone fractures don't heal in 2 weeks. I have a medical background.
 
There is no way she could compete/train at least a month for now. Bone fractures don't heal in 2 weeks. I have a medical background.

it depends on the severity of the fracture. I can see that resting 2 week could be sufficient, if the fracture is reeeeeaaaally slight and then starting light training after those 2 weeks.

If it's a more severe fracture or they have already put tons of cortisol on it and taken lots of anti-inflammation meds, I think it would take longer than 2 weeks.

Either way, there is no doubt that Evgenia probably will skip GPF. Even if she was healthy, I'd have considered to skip GPF if I was her, as loosing to Alina, Osmond or Wakaba there could really put a hit on her Olympic chances. There is no point in skating injured whatsoever, especially not since it could risk a more severe injury right before the Olympics.
 
There is no way she could compete/train at least a month for now. Bone fractures don't heal in 2 weeks. I have a medical background.

Yeah, I agree. The more I think about it, I believe that she is providing this information to alert the first alternate that she will likely be participating in the GPF, which is very courteous.
 
You are too optimistic. Bones recovery is slow. Also do not forget about muscles rehabilitation after forced inactivity and "training anew" period - going to high-level competition without it is suicide. I would honestly advice to skip both GPF and Nationals at least.
Well i do hope she will get a pass for Nationals but there are so many good girls aiming for the spots I am not sure Russian fed will be happy to see her sit out of Nationals. Even though if I were Russian fed I would give her a pass, she has proven herself to be that good and consistent after all. But I am not them. I hope they will think of her health first. They’re smart, though,
 
This is basically a Kwan Redux from 1998. Take the time off, maybe focus on new or better choreo. Kwan's injury didn't hurt her in 1998. Even without the injury, TeamKwan thought she was a lock for Oly gold and wasn't going for difficult program/s compared to Tara. 3toe in the short, no 3/3 in the long. I think Medvedeva has more of a competitive instinct and won't wimp out like Kwan did. Might as well rest up now for a month and heal then worsen it later on in the season.
 
She's not going to go the GPF on no ice training. What is she supposed to do, remove the cast on the morning of the competition? I think this statement should be taken as very strongly suggesting a WD, not some sort of nefarious plot to sway the judges or something. Hopefully the fact that Yuzu is also not going will help Zhenya put this competition in perspective. She has nothing to gain by going to the finals beyond denying Alina some momentum.
 
This is basically a Kwan Redux from 1998. Take the time off, maybe focus on new or better choreo. Kwan's injury didn't hurt her in 1998. Even without the injury, TeamKwan thought she was a lock for Oly gold and wasn't going for difficult program/s compared to Tara. 3toe in the short, no 3/3 in the long. I think Medvedeva has more of a competitive instinct and won't wimp out like Kwan did. Might as well rest up now for a month and heal then worsen it later on in the season.
I don’t get your idea about Kwan’s injury didn’t hurt her in 1998. What kind of injury that doesn’t hurt?
 
Can't Evgenia even get injured like a normal skater without controversy & people assuming the worst? Maybe wish her well instead of starting 1000 conspiracy theories about doping, suspicious timing(huh?), astrology, etc.? When would be a non-suspicious time for her to announce her injury? If she waited until the last minute people would have a problem with that, too.
 
Another blow for me to hear that Zhenya's "minor injury" turned out to be a crack on her metatarsal bone! :sad21: I really hope she would skip GPF and potentially Russian Nationals to focus on her recovery. According to this article, She already took strong pain killer during her FS at NHK, and she even skated to the Gala! She's so tough! Maybe too much as her strongest competitor at this stage is herself, but sometimes it's so hard to be nice to oneself for her being a perfectionist champion.
I don't think RUS fed would lose anything if Zhenya skips GPF or Russian Nationals as they will probably try to push Alina's PCS. It will be a real test/challenge for Alina to see if she will be mentally strong enough to potentially be Russian No.1. I guess the Japanese audience would not be too disappointed if Zhenya withdraws as they would probably have their home girl Wakaba or Polina in GPF.
 
I've only briefly skimmed the proliferation of posts here, so I'm probably preaching to the choir, but she absolutely should not try to skate in the GPF. Anyone who has had personal experience with bone fractures (my son, a high school and college athlete, had multiple metatarsal bone fractures) knows it takes a minimum of six weeks to heal. It would be heartbreaking for her not to be healthy for the Olympics.
 
Feeling like a cursed being where almost every single one of the skaters I like this season is injured.:sad21: I really hope she decides to sit it out and focus on recovery and come back blazing for the Olympics. I want to burn this season. It's been so so awful.:(
 
I don’t get your idea about Kwan’s injury didn’t hurt her in 1998. What kind of injury that doesn’t hurt?

What I meant was, that like Med, Kwan didn't skate well at her second GP, due to injury. She then took six to eight weeks off until Nationals. The injury was healed enough that she was able to give iconic performances at Nationals, so competitively it didn't hurt her. Her scaling back her programs was what cost her, but she had the same content before the injury that she had at Nagano. Kind of holding on for dear life, but she still skated a clean ultraconservative program that even she knew with Tara's two 3/3s was going to be a nailbiter. Her injury did not hurt her competitively at Nats or Olys.
 
What I meant was, that like Med, Kwan didn't skate well at her second GP, due to injury. She then took six to eight weeks off until Nationals. The injury was healed enough that she was able to give iconic performances at Nationals, so competitively it didn't hurt her. Her scaling back her programs was what cost her, but she had the same content before the injury that she had at Nagano. Kind of holding on for dear life, but she still skated a clean ultraconservative program that even she knew with Tara's two 3/3s was going to be a nailbiter. Her injury did not hurt her competitively at Nats or Olys.
I see. The point for Medvedeva is... if she takes a while to fully heal, can she upgrade her layout to be more competitive compared to other ladies? Higher BV the better chance but it comes with risk.
I hope she is healthy soon.
 
Europeans predates the World Championships, the Olympics and the founding of the ISU. Forty years later they even let women compete.

Four Continents -- that was just something they came up with because they felt sorry for the rest of the world. ;)

There was once a North American Figure Skating Championship. The last one was in 1971. Of course, only two countries ever competed.

The list of champions and other medalists includes some iconic names.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_American_Figure_Skating_Championships

Of course, all of this has drifted off-topic, but I think we're far enough along in the thread that some drifting is allowed.
 
She's not going to go the GPF on no ice training. What is she supposed to do, remove the cast on the morning of the competition? I think this statement should be taken as very strongly suggesting a WD, not some sort of nefarious plot to sway the judges or something. Hopefully the fact that Yuzu is also not going will help Zhenya put this competition in perspective. She has nothing to gain by going to the finals beyond denying Alina some momentum.
I agree 100%, I think the statements is basically a WD announcement. Tbh, she doesn't need GPF, she needs to heal and be ready for either Nationals or Euros depending on how bad the fracture is. Sure, she will lose some momentum, but it's better than losing a chance to go to the Olympics and be able to perform well.

I also thought about the fact that she's a great fan of Yuzu as something positive, as it maybe will help her understand that there is no shame in WD if you're injured and that it doesn't mean she isn't the best in the world at the moment.
 
Medvedeva withdrawing doesn't hurt her, as long as she wins Europeans, but does help Zagitova. The youngster will receive a further reputation bonus with a GPF win. Another way to look at it is this helps Russia in the Team event, since they likely want to split the Ladies and now both ladies will look unbeatable to the judges in their segments.
 
To read this is just terrible. I hope she is going to be ready for olympics. it is not fair to any contender to be sidlined by injury or illness
and after yuzuru this is just really bad for the Sport itself.
 
Medvedeva withdrawing doesn't hurt her, as long as she wins Europeans, but does help Zagitova. The youngster will receive a further reputation bonus with a GPF win. Another way to look at it is this helps Russia in the Team event, since they likely want to split the Ladies and now both ladies will look unbeatable to the judges in their segments.

I agree. She will go to the Olympics no matter what as long as she is healthy by that time.

Others ladies behind Medvedeva will benefit a lot and there will be an exciting backstory to the Olympics.

Evgenia who was always the best but couldn't compete due to injury vs. Alina/Kaetlyn/Wakaba who swayed the audiance in her absence. It won't be an event of same old Medvedeva winning again. I can imagine the Americans marketing this as a great war between the girls and Evgenia getting back what is rightfully hers etc.

But I really hope that Evgenia wouldn't stress herself that much. It will probably be hard for her to just wait until she can practice again.
 
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