Skating Pet Peeves & Moves You Dislike

[SimplyLex]

HELICOPTER TANOS, guys.

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Yesterday during 4CC someone in the YT livestream used an awesome term for it, can't say it here, but it was on point.

Also toe-axels and heavy prerotations, because unlike with URs, skaters get away with them every single time.
Aimless arm flailing.
Bad music cuts.
Reusing old programs.
Ice dancers who don't point their feet.

Crotch-in-the-face, crotch-grabbing or boob-grabbing lifts.

 

[Yuzuruu]

HELICOPTER TANOS, guys.

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Yesterday during 4CC someone in the YT livestream used an awesome term for it, can't say it here, but it was on point.

Also toe-axels and heavy prerotations, because unlike with URs, skaters get away with them every single time.
Aimless arm flailing.
Bad music cuts.
Reusing old programs.
Ice dancers who don't point their feet.

Crotch-in-the-face, crotch-grabbing or boob-grabbing lifts.

I forgot about the ugly tanos! Also I know you from the YT livestream

 

[yoloaxel]

Sotskova's tano arm

 

[Lily flowers]

I don’t know if anyone mentioned this before, but slow spins to fast sections of the music. Makes the spin look even slower.
Another thing, music change during the spin. Sometimes it works (especially of there’s a change in position), most times it doesn’t.

 

[SimplyLex]

I forgot about the ugly tanos! Also I know you from the YT livestream

I actually forgot that I have the same username on YT as here
I like those live discussions there because they're so wild

 

[Nocturne]

You two are thinking of her Y-skid spiral. It's not a true traditional skid spiral like Robin Cousins invented and Jeremy Abbott does.

Jeremy actually does several in this program: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-KwGwqtxec

Robin Cousins: https://youtu.be/R_xwhkc_A1E?t=183


That said, hers is still cool!

Thank you! I like this skid spiral though. The leg position is nice and it looks so floaty Maybe that's what's missing for me in Medvedeva's. I dont know.

 

[Yuzuruu]

I actually forgot that I have the same username on YT as here
I like those live discussions there because they're so wild

Come watch the 4CC with us, the shade and roast is magnificent today

 

[iluvtodd]

The tanos over the head when it's done for practically every jump in the program

Butt spins

Extreme backloading (gee, there was a time when lots of us were annoyed with extreme front loading of programs). I hope some day we can get back to some kind of balance here.

The "O" face, used for emoting.

On the bright side, I am relieved to see fewer "shredded" dance costumes!

 

[MGstyle]

The tanos over the head when it's done for practically every jump in the program

Butt spins

Extreme backloading (gee, there was a time when lots of us were annoyed with extreme front loading of programs). I hope some day we can get back to some kind of balance here.

The "O" face, used for emoting.

On the bright side, I am relieved to see fewer "shredded" dance costumes!

Personally I don't have any problems with the Tano, actually I love it when it's done well. The problem is the abuse of poorly executed Tanos, for example Sotskova's helicopter. There should be a specific GOE applied for Tanos, it shouldn't be just a matter of raising the arm above the shoulder...

I am bothered by the extreme backloading as well, particularly Zagitova's jump fest at the last moment of the program. I hope there will be some sort of regulation laid out to balance out the programs in the future.

I thought there was a +GOE involved in making of the O-face, especially during the Latin dancing competition.

BTW, sorry about the ignorance.. what exactly is this widely discussed about "Butt Spin"?? can someone link a picture?

I am also relieved that I wasn't the only one who was always uncomfortable with the half-loop combinations. no matter how well it's done, it always looks like an accidental stepout! :eekn:

 

[Ylyzybyth]

Tetris arm tanos.
The nano second Ina Bauers and spread eagles.

 

[Yuzuruu]

BTW, sorry about the ignorance.. what exactly is this widely discussed about "Butt Spin"?? can someone link a picture?

Butt spin is so ugly I could not find a picture And since I am in love with Yuzu I will give him the honour to present you with the butt spin here: https://youtu.be/08m9CebBBF4?t=194

Its when the skater makes an "A" with his legs and you can admire their butts

 

[yume]

Cantilever
helicopter tanos
Medvedeva's 2A-2T-2T (Very painful to watch)
Very sexy costumes for young ladies skaters (Eg: Zagitova's ex costume)

 

[Grin]

Telegraphing jumps
3t3t, 2a-1lo-2a combos

 

[MGstyle]

Butt spin is so ugly I could not find a picture And since I am in love with Yuzu I will give him the honour to present you with the butt spin here: https://youtu.be/08m9CebBBF4?t=194

Its when the skater makes an "A" with his legs and you can admire their butts

LOL now it's clear!!! Yes, right, I never quite got that, either

 

[NoNameFace]

A spin and a poorly extended Y/I spin... the A spin doesn't look good on anyone... and if you aren't flexible, don't force it.

this, especially in ID/Pairs - some of those 'I' spins variation with female doing upside down split with lifting her leg should be banned unless you have Wenjing Sui or Stepanova's flexibility...I recall that Sui/Han had this position in some of their programs and that was a proper extension that made it pleasant, on the other hand, Elena/Nikita's 'Swan Lake' had also this position in spin and it was sooo hit or miss for me...

 

[Kinga]

Shoulder shimmies (most of them)
Spread eagle with butt sticking out
Spins in standing position with bent knee
Crooky biellmans
Unsynchronized spins in pairs
Streched leg spins in pairs when a female has a good position, but male position is HORRIBLE

Over the top emoting (Misha Ge, Anna Cappellini, Valentina Marchei, I'm looking at you)

Moments in which skaters are "running" and their arms are in "running " motion too

Last but not least:
Unnecessary hip wiggling and "sultry" movements when music has nothing to do with being sexy. I saw that in quite a few Kostner programs, when she basically stops, wiggles her hips and smiles at judges and carries on (bolero for example, but she did that in other programs too) Some of those moments managed to partially ruin her programs for me, programs that otherwise I would have gone crazy for. So unnecessary, especially when you have gazillion of assets to express the music.

 

[SimplyLex]

Come watch the 4CC with us, the shade and roast is magnificent today

Sorry, couldn't get out of work today to watch it. I hope I'll be able to watch ladies tomorrow. I definitely regret missing all the shade

 

[brens78]

When you think a lady is gonna start holding onto a beautiful spiral but it’s only for 3 seconds, especially when a spiral sequence would go well with the music and program.

 

[Globetrotter]

Thank you! I like this skid spiral though. The leg position is nice and it looks so floaty Maybe that's what's missing for me in Medvedeva's. I dont know.

Personally, I don’t have any issue with Zhenya doing that move. It’s really a difficult transitional move. My peeve with it is more to it not really enhancing or nicely timed to the music but just thrown in there for the sake of being there. It’s the choreo that is an issue for me rather than the move.

 

[Globetrotter]

Pet peeves:
- unfinished or rushed moves and transitions (Zagi, Nathan - I know you both can do better)
- loooooong StSq trying to squeeze out Level 4, looks too labored
- butt spin, just no no
- Tetris arm tano
- Zagi’s LP tutu. She looks too bendy and butty in her moves in that tutu
- CaroK splat in that shade of highlighter green
- Weak and shallow edges