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Vanessa James & Morgan Cipres

Translation, let's start with the Quickfires because they both gave very similar answers and it's easy and quick to translate:

Quickfire with Morgan Ciprès
https://youtu.be/HAvzC24gqJY

M: Morgan Ciprès, 23 years old, pairs figure skater, 1 m 82.

Q: Insep
M: It must be about four years.

Q: Your dream
M: An Olympic medal, of course.

Q: Best moment
M: The Olympic Games in Sochi in 2014.

Q: Worst moment
M: The French national championship at Dammarie-lès-Lys.

Q: PyeongChang 2018
M: On the couch, in front of the TV.

Q: Playlist
M: Lil Wayne, Only.

Quickfire with Vanessa James
https://youtu.be/MPjzhtAXmB0

V: Vanessa James, I'm 27 years old, 1 m 61, I am a pairs figure skater.

Q: Insep
V: It must be about four years, five years at INSEP.

Q: Your dream
V: An Olympic medal, like most athletes.

Q: Best moment
V: The Olympic Games in Sochi.

Q: Worst moment
V: The French national championship at Dammarie-lès-Lys in 2012, I think.

Q: PyeongChang 2018
V: I hope on the podium. I would like first place, but 3, 2, 1 would make me happy.

Q: Playlist
V: Shake it off by Taylor Swift.
 
Yeah Thank you ! :thank:

haha, so Morgan wanted to be sitting on a couch and Vanessa was already thinking ahead of Sochi :laugh:
very interesting !
 
Translation. I had a little difficulty translating some of Vanessa's sentences. But she's hilarious in the interview, great personality.

BFMTV video interview
http://rmcsport.bfmtv.com/mediaplay...st-en-embuscade-pour-la-medaille-1033791.html

Intro: Just a month ago, Vanessa James and Morgan Ciprès experienced the greatest disappointment of their career. 1st after their short program at the European Championship in Moscow. They end up 4th, missing the podium by 1/100th. PyeongChang looks like redemption for the French pair.

The birth of the pair.

M: How did it start? It started because we knew each other from the French National Team. I was a single skater. And Vanessa was a pair skater with Yannick Bonheur. And she did the Olympic Games. And after her split with Yannick, we started communicating through Facebook. We jokingly said that we could do a tryout, that we could do great things. And it materialized. It happened like this. Everything turned out great. And here we are.

Their greatest strength.

V: We have to be thin and elegant, and also have the strength to do really difficult elements. I think that I am bulked up for a pairs skater. We see the Chinese and certain Russians who are really thin but also powerful. I don't know how they do it. We have a different body type. We are different from any other pairs team. I think this is our strength, our difference.

Goal, a medal in PyeongChang?

M: Two years ago, I would be thinking about the Games, but honestly, a medal was off limits. But today, like the media say, we are in the mix. We could be the "holdup" [wildcard]. We'll do everything for it. It's now our goal for this season. If we succeed, we'll be the happiest in the world. If we don't, we would have done everything to get there. Like all sportsmen, I think we all want to succeed. It works for some. It doesn't work for others. This is what sport is. This is why it's hard.

Pushing the other one to succeed.

V: [snarkily] It's alright. I'm used to it by now. It's been seven years. At the start, it wasn't that easy. [more seriously] But like he said, we're really close, because we spend a lot of time together, because we trust each other, because we know each other by heart. It is also our strength in our skating. When everything goes well [between us], it's beautiful. But when it doesn't, it's a catastrophe. I take the positive because we now know what we want. We go in the same direction. It's more positive than not. If we fight, it's because we want the best. We want to do more, we want to work more. Because maybe someone is tired and the other isn't. But we're there for each other, to push each other to succeed.

What story is told in the Program?

M: It's not a story. I think what we want to show is our story. We did a lot of "Romeo and Juliet", tried to act. We did "Pearl Harbor", "Angels and Demons". We had a lot of themes like this. At the end, what works is our own story. And that's it.

V: It works for us. We found our style. It's music that means something to us. And it conveys to the audience and the judges. And like he said "Romeo and Juliet" is an act, it didn't work for us. Here, we are at ease. It's natural. And it fits us perfectly.
 
Translation. I just did the Morgan and Vanessa part. It took me a while.

INSEPTV video interview featuring Morgan Ciprès, Vanessa James
https://youtu.be/tbMGVlSkeTY

P: Patrice Dumont, Host
E: Enzo Py, Guest host
V: Vanessa James
M: Morgan Ciprès

P: First guests of the day, the pair of Vanessa James and Morgan Ciprès, with the return of Enzo Py. Hello everybody.

E, V, M: Hello.

P: Since the start of the season, we're used on Team INSEP to get our bearings with talking about the Summer Olympic Games. It's going to change a little bit today. Traditional question. If you don't have the answer, it's not a big deal. I have it for you. Since when did figure skating first become part of the Olympic Games?

M: It's true, it's a traditional question. But each time, we don't remember the answer. [laughs]

P: Thank you very much. Enzo, a little help?

E: No idea.

P: Look at the board. A little bit of a trick question. 1908 at the London Summer Olympic Games. With single ladies, males and pairs. And 1920 at Anvers. So two Summer Olympic Games. Before 1924 at Chamonix, the first Winter Olympic Games. We'll talk about your Olympic results a little later. But first thing to remember or two, the gender parity in figure skating which is rare [in the historical context], and the participation at the Summer and Winter Olympic Games. You knew about these?

M: No, not really.

P: First information to give us, the center of excellence at INSEP is for figure skating but no ice dance. Do you know if this is voluntary or circumstantial?

M: I think it's more circumstantial, because we already don't have a dedicated ice rink at INSEP [they train at nearby Bercy]. It's hard for us to really integrate INSEP. We have some skaters who are interns at INSEP. I was an intern here for three or four years. But no ice dance because their center of excellence is based at Lyon and other parts of the country far from Paris.

P: So, how many skaters at INSEP, how many coaches, today? Vanessa?

V: I don't know. About 20, maybe. A Little bit less. It must be about 15, right?

M: Yeah, about 15 skaters and some staff.

V: With 5 profs [coaches/teachers].

P: We will find out later when we ask this question to Claude Thévenard who's going to join us later. [part of Maé-Bérénice Méité segment, the answer was 3 coaches] Like you told us, Morgan, no proper ice rink within INSEP. You need to train in neighboring rinks. How many rinks do you train at, outside of here, Bercy?

M: I don't really know because we have all the ice rinks from the Île-de-France region. We don't have a lot of skaters that are part of the French National Team. We have the ice rink of Champigny, the ice rink at Bercy. We are all part of different local clubs. Vanessa is part of the Club des Français Volants, so Bercy. Maé-Bérénice is at Vitry, so she's part of the Club de Vitry. I am part of Dammarie[-lès-Lys]. But we all train in the same center of excellence [as the French National Team], so we train in conjunction with INSEP.

P: To come back to INSEP, what facilities do you use at INSEP? Are there some?

V: The facilities? We have the gym, the cafeteria. We all need to eat. [... either swimming pool or locker room, I am not sure what Vanessa meant] We have the medical facility. It's all great.

P: Where are those exactly in INSEP?

M: Exactly?

P: Like the gym, is that your dedicated gym?

M: No, we have access to everything, but we have a time slot. We share with other sports. And we train with a Judo coach, Benoît Campargue, who takes us sometimes to the covered stadium, sometimes we're outside, sometimes we're in the gym next to the wrestling, etc... We are a little bit everywhere.

P: So traditional question, how long have you been together as a pair?

V: Now, it's been four years and a half. We started in September 2010.

P: The other question, how did you meet?

M: We met... I'm a little bit younger than Vanessa.

P: Barely.

M: [jokingly] Barely, a little bit. She's going on forty. I, twenty. That's why it's a little bit difficult. [more seriously] No but, we were both part of the French National Team. I was a single skater. She was a pair skater with her old partner [Yannick Bonheur]. And we met like this.

P: There wasn't any matchmaker. People who thought that you could work well together.

M: Yes, after a while. We first wondered about partnering up with each other. It was a joke at first. We did a tryout. Some people thought that this could work. It's not like you could pair any two skaters from the French National Team. You have to really think about it. Everybody has to agree.

P: Today, if I can ask you another trick question, your strength and your weakness or lesser strength, what would they be?

V: We are very dynamic in character, and strong physically. We're powerful. But I'm not very light. I am bulked up. I don't know how to say it.

M: You're tall.

V: Yes, I'm also tall, which is a handicap in pairs. It's easier with a shorter person. But physically, we are bulked up, we're powerful, we are not the classical pair. Light and feminine.

P: You are more like an athletic pair.

V: Yes, exactly. This was the word that I was looking for.

P: Vanessa, rather a globetrotter of figure skating, because you were born in Canada, in Ontario. You skated for the United States, for Great Britain, and then finally France. Why France?

V: Why France? It's because in the United States... Like I said I am tall for a pairs skater, so I need to find a tall partner. In the United States, all the tall [pairs skater] boys were taken, or there was not a lot. So, I went on a meeting website, like for love, but for figure skating, ice dancers and pairs. We have to put in our picture, our goal, our record. And I found a partner named Yannick Bonheur, who's French. I went to France for a three day tryout. The Fédération [Fédération française des sports de glace or French Federation of Ice Sports] liked our partnership. I came back a week later and I stayed in France.

P: For two years with Yannick Bonheur.

V: Yes, two years.

P: We just learn something Enzo. There's a meeting website for skaters. Don't hesitate, if you need the address, Vanessa will tell you, a little bit later. Morgan, before you paired up with Vanessa, you never did any pairs skating. How's life as a pair? Is it better or is it more complicated?

M: It's... I compare this, for me, the life as a pair on ice is almost the same as life as a pair off ice. It's always great at the start. There are always moments where it goes down and then goes up again. There are highs and lows. It's difficult. We still have a common goal. We have to be demanding of ourselves and of our partner, but you still have to be sensible with the other, listen to each other. It's a really difficult sport.

P: How many hours a day do you spend with each other?

M: It depends on the day.

P: On average?

E: On the ice?

V: On the ice? Three maybe sometimes four. In total five or six hours per day, together.

M: We are a pair that needs to get along well to work well. And it happens also outside the rink. When there are tensions off the ice, we can feel it on the ice, it's not good for work. But when we get along well outside, we are even better on the ice.

P: And it works very well for you. Three national championship titles, already. Now, we are talking at this moment between two important dates in the Winter, the European Championship in Götheborg [Wikipedia lists Stockholm] that just happened and the World Championship in Shanghai that are coming up. Götheborg everything went well, third place after the short program. Fifth place in the final placement. What do you take from it? The joy from the short program or the sadness from the final placement, or a little bit of both?

V: I want to say both. It's our first medal, the European [Championship]. So it's really important. It doesn't happen to everybody. We have to take the positive. We skated well. The sadness is always there, but we bounced back with a great competition in Grenada, in Spain. We were third place at the University World Championships [Figure skating at the 2015 Winter Universiade]. It's easy to skate well. if we get good results, it's easy. It harder to be sad and to bounce back right after. It's our strength also.

P: Goal in Shanghai?

M: To skate well.

P: I don't doubt it.

M: It's always difficult for us to reach the World podium. If we come close to fifth, that would be great. The problem is we're a little bit injured right now. We will get through the end of this season and the World Championships.

P: And when you skate everyday at Bercy or elsewhere, do you think about PyeongChang? To dream of an Olympic podium or to get closer to it?

M: Yes. For me, it was always a dream since I was very young. I'm very competitive. We dream of the highest podium. For us, it could happen at PyeongChang in three years, three years and a half. Yes, we think about it more or less everyday.

P: We wish you the best.

E: How did you stop single skating and take up pairs skating with Vanessa? Was it complicated? How did it happen? Did you do a "white season" ["redshirt" in american college terms] to learn how to skate in pairs? Or did you do small competition and exhibition galas, to see how it goes?

M: You pretty much described how it went.

E: Great. It's me the coach.

M: I needed to learn everything. I needed to fill out. I was cut out physically for pairs but still I needed to bulk up a little more without doing too much because I still need to do my jumps and skate well. We had a learning season, half a learning season. Then we did a couple of exhibition galas with a some pairs element. Step by step, we tried to build something.

P: We don't always say. For you, it's obvious. When Vanessa talks about height and weight, it's because there's a time when you need to lift her and throw her. And when Morgan talks about getting bulked up, to gain weight but not too much, it's because he needs to lift and throw her, but still be able to do the jumps. Is there an element that is your secret weapon? Without telling your secret.

M: I don't think we have a secret weapon. We are a complete pair in a lot of things. At the core, we're really good jumpers and single skaters. That's why it works well together. She's not short, and I'm not huge. So, I can't do stuff with her that I could do with my little sister, for example.

P: I don't know your sister.

M: She's eight. That's why. We are complete skaters. We have impressive elements that are technical. It's what makes our strength, I think.

P: You want to add something?

V: I want to say all the jumps and throws, even the twist, we are very athletic. We're known for our height of our individual jumps. The height of our throw is a little bit different than other teams. I want to say all the jumps and throws.

P: A real asset.

V: Yes.

E: Together since September 2010 on the ice. Does that make you an old or young pairs team? Experienced enough or still learning?

M: When we did the Olympic Games, I was the youngest male pairs skater of our World ranking. We're getting older. But for the Olympic Games, we were young.

P: You'll be ripe in time for PyeongChang.

M: Normally.

P: Thank you, Vanessa and Morgan to stay still on the ice. It doesn't happen too often. I hope you didn't catch a chill.

M: No, it's alright.

P: We wish you all the best in the coming weeks.
 
So, I guess they will be around for one more year at least!! :yahoo: :hap10:
Definitely something to look forward to!!
 
As I´m living in a country, where Football is the absolut superior sport, I often find myself alone with my fascination of Ice Skating... so I made this comparison of the two sports 😉 Watch german soccer player Jerome Boateng vs. Vanessa James :handw:

https://youtu.be/Fg_Rc5frSlc


I mean, at least in Germany, one gets all the media attention, while other disciplines are basically non-existent... not fair :noshake:
 
I found an old article from November 11th 2015, Vanessa James and Morgan Ciprès: “It’s good for skating to add new elements and difficulty” by Hiro Yoshida,
https://europeonice.com/2015/11/11/vanessa-james-and-morgan-cipres-its-good-for-skating-to-add-new-elements-and-difficulty/
Apologies if you already aware of it. Just found that part hilarious:
It has been five years since Vanessa James and Morgan Ciprès teamed up to skate for France and the memories of starting out with a total beginner in pairs are vivid for James.

“I remember the first time we did a single twist on the ice. A single twist is big, so I had time to see him and his face was like this ‘Aaargh’,” she recalled. “I started laughing in the twist because he was scared. It was funny to see.”
 
Thank you so much for that link, I was laughing a lot just imagining Vanessa up in the air laughing while Morgan feels more like :eekn:

just in case you can't wait for Worlds to see them skate: heres a new montage out again (I know, I have no live :coffee: )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-lSCnaoezc

hope you enjoy - or cry ... I don't know ;)
 
Thank you so much for that link, I was laughing a lot just imagining Vanessa up in the air laughing while Morgan feels more like :eekn:

just in case you can't wait for Worlds to see them skate: heres a new montage out again (I know, I have no live :coffee: )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-lSCnaoezc

hope you enjoy - or cry ... I don't know ;)

Both actually.. :)
Won't be long before we see them again on the World stage!!
 
Thank you so much for that link, I was laughing a lot just imagining Vanessa up in the air laughing while Morgan feels more like :eekn:

just in case you can't wait for Worlds to see them skate: heres a new montage out again (I know, I have no live :coffee: )

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h-lSCnaoezc

hope you enjoy - or cry ... I don't know ;)

Well, Aliona Savchenko said that the first time Bruno threw her into the twist she screamed out of fear because of the height and both of them have been in pairs for a long time.
Poor Morgan must have been scared to drop her...
 
I think, its better if HE is scared, at least a little (might add some cautiousness), rather than HER being scared and screaming (maybe hitting a wrong position in the air )

But little do I know, how it feels like to be thrown that high, nor to throw someone myself...
 
Great video Julie! Where did the footage of Vanessa and Morgan training come from? You must have such a backlog of videos to be able to produce your tributes. If you don't already have this, I can add that to your collection, I found Morgan dancing. https://youtu.be/7WWeHu07WzM?t=15s

In the world of old news, I seem to have a knack at uncovering old interviews/being a professional stalker. :scratch3:
French interview from March 27th 2012. Mondiaux De Patinage Artistique : Interview De Vanessa James & Morgan Ciprès https://www.gralon.net/articles/sports-et-loisirs/sports-glace/article-mondiaux-de-patinage-artistique---interview-de-vanessa-james-et-morgan-cipres-5947.htm
That was just a year and a half after they started skating together. Interesting tidbit. People were already telling Morgan that he had the body and talent to do pairs, and that's why he did the tryout with Vanessa when the opportunity presented itself.
 
Haha yes... I filled some folders with J/C material.... the training session with Ingo Steuer was reported in french TV, can't find it on youtube anymore...
 
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