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Vanessa James & Morgan Cipres

oh Look at this whats that !??

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=THvhu7DBdCU

:gclap:

Thank you Julie.

Translation as promised. It kind of reads like Google Translate, even though a human did it. A human who claims to be bilingual! I couldn't get everything perfectly because there was a lot of skating terms in French I am unfamiliar with and the sound quality is not the best. But looking at the date, May 17th, 2011, just seven month after they started their partnership, I can say Vanessa greatly improved her French since then. And they look like babies, especially Morgan.

Q: Interviewer
M: Morgan Ciprès
V: Vanessa James

M: Very good, very good. We're in the middle of training.

Q: So how is this training going? You have a gold winning coach, World champion, he trains a triple World winner [pair], Ingo Steuer.

M: We're happy. It's a real pleasure to learn techniques from a great coach like this. For now, it's the beginning, we learn a lot of things. We're happy. We're progressing well. Everything is great.

V: Yes, he's nice, he's funny. We all laugh on the ice together. We're changing little things with the techniques for the throws and the twist, good correction, good encouragement. Is that it?

Q: In this training session, we saw [you going through] element by element. It's really detail oriented. There is really a...

M: Yeah, everything is very precise. We revisited a couple of element like the twist and the throws, almost like learning from the beginning. It was not easy at the start, but it's becoming easier. And yeah, we're doing element by element to really get the best each time.

V: We're almost new to [...], the spirals. It's difficult, things like this. The pirouettes, each position [must be] pretty, pointed feet, very low, things like this.

M: All the details.

V: Yeah.

Q: What have you learned until today?

V: Too many to say.

M: [puff] This is difficult to say.

V: Already in skating, this is totally different. Like when we [...] in the knees, in the heart.

M: The line, the line that makes us work both.

V: We're working a lot on the jumps, the lifts, techniques of strength for Morgan, things like this. For me, pointed feet. The spiral surely we have progressed. We learn things for the death spiral, change of hands. [...] Things like this. Also the double twist. Like we said, I used to do a twist that was very flat. Now, it must be more vertical. This really changed a lot. So It's a little hard, but we're improving. It's been one week and a half already. And we're starting from the beginning, like Morgan said. And we're already did some [...] today. It went well.

Q: It's a ton of work since the beginning of your partnership. It's impressive.

M: Now, it's been six, seven month since we first started skating together.

V: We started in September.

M: Vanessa had already some experience, me with less experience. I started from the beginning, all the elements, the lifts, the throws, the twist, the spirals, everything I didn't know at all. We're happy with our progress. It goes really fast. We get along well. We have big goals in our horizon.

Q: What's next? Training still? Mostly skating together to go to the Masters [in Orléans].

M: Going to the Masters, it's...

V: We already created the free program with Romain. What was the name?

M: Nostalgia by Yanni. And we skate a program by Romain Haguenauer.

V: Yeah.

M: Now, we have to work at it. We created it two weeks ago.

V: There is [...] twist, lift, pirouette.

M: It's not going to be easy at the start, but it's doable.

V: The Masters is the next thing, then we hope for the Trophée Bompard, Europeans and World championships. We could stay in France, we would like that.

Q: Yes, the World Championship are in [Nice,] France.

M,V: Yes.

Q: It interests you [to participate], no?

M: Yeah. Especially with everybody here. The World Championship in France... I hope you'll be there.

V: We're going to try.

M: We'll do everything to get there for everybody who support us and for us. We'll do everything.

Q: Rendez-vous at Orléans.

M: Rendez-vous at Orléans.
 
Dug up an interview with Romain Haguenauer when I was looking up how to spell his name for yesterday's translation.
http://web.icenetwork.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20120607&content_id=32913662&fext=.jsp&vkey=ice_news

Here are the Vanessa and Morgan parts:
Last season was a successful one for Haguenauer. He did choreography for French pair Vanessa James and Morgan Ciprès, who had strong results in their first season together, including a sixth-place finish at the 2012 European Championships.
Icenetwork.com: This past season you did choreography for Vanessa James and Morgan Ciprès, who had good results in their first season together. What is the reason for their fast progress?

Haguenauer: When I choreographed their programs last year, they were just starting their partnership. While Vanessa had good pairs experience, that was not the case with Morgan. He did not know anything about holding, driving and unison. So, the work I have done with them was not only the choreography but also it was about the basics of the connection between two partners. I immediately noticed that Morgan already had good abilities and understanding about the important role the man should have in a duet. This is why I was not surprised about their fast progress. They now have a lot of work to do to be able to reach the top five at a championship. Hard work and experience, as you know, will count a lot.
 
Hey everyone !

I´m so excited I have to share this with you: as a result of making all those montages of J/C, Vanessas mom invited me to meet them in Milano at Worlds :yahoo::hap85::hap93:

now I´m preparing some questions for an interview - I have a LOT on my mind, but I wanted to ask you: what would you want to ask or tell Vanessa and Morgan, if you had the chance to meet them in person ?

cheers
Julie:biggrin:

Congratulations! :yay: What an honour! So pleased for you. Would love to know what is their favourite move as individuals and as a pair, also what inspired their lift ending where Morgan goes down on one knee ?? Commentators always comment on the quad burn amazed that he can do this at the end of a performance. Is it really that bad for him? & maybe what their favourite routine is each so far- personally I love scared of lonely gala one that head Spin! :yahoo:
 
Congratulations! :yay: What an honour! So pleased for you. Would love to know what is their favourite move as individuals and as a pair, also what inspired their lift ending where Morgan goes down on one knee ?? Commentators always comment on the quad burn amazed that he can do this at the end of a performance. Is it really that bad for him? & maybe what their favourite routine is each so far- personally I love scared of lonely gala one that head Spin! :yahoo:

Welcome to the Fan Fest Kappa1!

They actually answered the favorite program question on the Paris Match interview I linked on my very first/second post on February 28th.

Paris Match print interview
http://www.parismatch.com/Actu/Sport...-force-1459079

PM. Vous patinez ensemble depuis 8 ans, pour l’instant, quel programme avez-vous préféré ?
MC. Je pense que c’est le programme de l’année dernière, celui qui nous a apporté des vrais résultats. Et puis c’est celui qui a le plus plu au public et aux juges aussi.
VJ. Le programme court de l’année dernière, j’ai vraiment tout aimé. Je me sentais bien libérée, j'aimais bien la tenue, nos transitions, on avait un mouvement lancé super impressionnant. Et je pense que tout le plaisir que j’ai pris avec ce programme s’est vu.

Rough translation: Morgan's favorite was the fan favorite program from last year ["Sound of Silence"], and Vanessa's favorite was the short program from last year ["Earned It"].
I could manage a full translation of the Paris Match interview over the weekend if anybody requests it.
 
@ Lived in Inch

" I could manage a full translation of the Paris Match interview over the weekend if anybody requests it. "

oh yes please ! :)
 
Congratulations! :yay: What an honour! So pleased for you. Would love to know what is their favourite move as individuals and as a pair, also what inspired their lift ending where Morgan goes down on one knee ?? Commentators always comment on the quad burn amazed that he can do this at the end of a performance. Is it really that bad for him? & maybe what their favourite routine is each so far- personally I love scared of lonely gala one that head Spin! :yahoo:

Thank you !
I like your question about the last lift :laugh: definitely going to ask Morgan about it...
 
Welcome to the Fan Fest Kappa1!

They actually answered the favorite program question on the Paris Match interview I linked on my very first/second post on February 28th.

Paris Match print interview
http://www.parismatch.com/Actu/Sport...-force-1459079



Rough translation: Morgan's favorite was the fan favorite program from last year ["Sound of Silence"], and Vanessa 's favorite was the short program from last year ["Earned It"].
I could manage a full translation of the Paris Match interview over the weekend if anybody requests it.

Hey! Thank you! So glad I found you guys :hap93:

I for one would appreciate that. Just can't get enough of these guys!
Happened to catch the end of their Olympic S/P found them on YT and finally here! :laugh:
Also wonder who devised the new costumes Vanessa's bodysuits & Morgan's complimentary outfits so modern and stylish. Makes them stand out from the others even more, I imagine them featuring in a music video they're so captivating :luv17:
 
Hey :)

Have you guys read this Deadspin article? It's about the pairs dynamic and it's appeal.. I think we can relate:

https://deadspin.com/what-makes-ice-dancing-different-brother-sister-pairs-1823041001

It summarises with this:

It’s the stylistic choices—music, costumes, choreography—more than the intricate movements that the skaters’ feet are doing across the ice that the general audience notices. At this Olympic Games, the Canadian ice dance team of Tessa Virtue and Scott Moir, the 2010 Olympic champions and the defending Olympic silver medalists, have been the subject of intense scrutiny due to the sensual nature of their free dance, which includes what can only be described as some light face sitting. People are far less interested in discussing their deep, pure edgework; Virtue and Moir might be the best technicians in the competition. But the on-ice passion they exhibited is all anyone can talk about. It has led to renewed speculation about their relationship status—they maintain that they only dated when they were 8 and 10 years old. (Hubbell and Donohue had been a couple in the past but now date members of the same Spanish ice dance team.)

And that’s the thing—the heteronormative male-female relationship and the attendant expectations inevitably informs the way we interpret everything we see on the ice. Regardless of what the actual relationship between two skaters is off the ice—and they’re all out there to find: brother/sister, boyfriend/girlfriend, husband/wife, or gay man/straight woman, straight man/lesbian—their task on the ice is mostly to enact traditionally masculine and feminine roles and relate to each other as a heterosexual couple would. All they can do is make it beautiful, make it felt, make it somehow real—they have to show us something, but what we see and how we see it is fundamentally on us.


Well at least I know what's wrong with me :laugh:
 
Translation. It was a challenge. I wanted to find another word for "complicité", that did not sound Trump-like. I settled for bond vs. complicity.

Paris Match print interview
http://www.parismatch.com/Actu/Sport/Morgan-Cipres-et-Vanessa-James-Notre-complicite-c-est-notre-force-1459079

Morgan Ciprès and Vanessa James: "Our Bond is our Strength"
Paris Match | Published 02/13/2018 at 3:13pm | Updated 02/13/2018 at 3:24pm
Clémentine Rebillat

[photo] Vanessa James and Morgan Ciprès, in 2017, on the European Championship podium, wearing their bronze medals. REUTERS/David W Cerny

After participating in the Team Competition, Morgan Ciprès and Vanessa James start the individual pairs competition on Wednesday. Tonight, they perform their short program and dream to medal.

They've been skating together since 2010. She, accustomed to pairs skating with Yannick Bonheur, he, a single skater, compliment each other well. Partners on the ice and friends in life, Vanessa James, a 30 year-old Franco-British, and Morgan Ciprès, 26 years old, will perform their short program on Wednesday then their free program on Thursday. The duo who dreams to medal, earned a bronze medal at the 2017 European Championship with a magnificent program set to the song "The Sound of Silence" covered by the band Disturbed. Now settled in the United States, Morgan Ciprès and Vanessa James have overcome an hurdle and could claim a place on the podium.


Paris Match: Last year, you've won a bronze medal at the European Figure Skating Championships. Your first pairs medal. You are now more anticipated in competition. How do you approach these Olympic Games?

Morgan Ciprès: Winning this medal, now puts us over in another league but it also liberated us. It really meant something to us to win a medal at Europeans. We always want more, we're not thinking of stopping there. In the case, where we are more anticipated or that there are more talks about us, it's no doubt an additional pressure.

Vanessa James: I don't know if it's pressure coming from the public or the media or more like a pressure to get results. We know now that we have to do better with different program. But to know, that our music is appreciated by the public and the judges, it's a relief.

PM: How do you feel today?

VJ: Since the start of the season, we tried to stay focused, to pay attention to details. We go to the Olympic Games to really skate well.

MC: We approach those Olympic Games with pleasure, because it's a joy to go to the Olympic Games, it does not happen often in a life, so we're happy to go. Our goal is to bring home a medal. Even if it is a challenge, we could do it.

PM: In Sochi in 2014, you've participated in your first Olympic Games together. What are your best memories from these?

VJ: The opening ceremony, it was amazing. There was an unbelievable atmosphere in the stadium. And crossing path with all the other athletes, hearing "La Marseillaise" [the French national anthem], it was wonderful.

MC: It was my first Olympic Games, it was a childhood dream to go there. I keep a lot of great memories. Everything turned out great. In reality, it was more like an eye-opener for me, so I was not really looking for a medal. But we're going to use everything of what happened over there to compete this year.

PM: We feel a real chemistry between you two, on the ice but also out of the rink.

MC: At the core, there are real feelings between us. It came naturally. We're looking for success, so we have to get along every day, we have to deal with each other because we're pratically together 24 hours a day, so we better be getting along well. That's not always easy, it's true [laughs]. We're always together and sometimes it's not by sheer pleasure, but because we are working on our program sequences. But frankly, we get along 90% of the time.

VJ: There are a lot of pairs team who works really well together on the ice but out of the rink, they do not really hang out. Us when we started, we already got along really well. When things don't go well, it's really difficult, but when there's a bond, then there's magic, and the public feels it. It's our strength. In fact, we found a healthy balance, we each have our own apartment, we do not live together, and I think it is much better like this. After when we sometimes have difficult moments on the ice, it could get complicated when we spend a lot time together, but between us, everything goes well.

[photo] Vanessa James and Morgan Ciprès skating during the Team competition in the Pyeongchang Olympic Games. REUTERS/John Sibley

PM: Vanessa, before meeting Morgan, you skated pairs with Yannick Bonheur. You, Morgan, you were a single skater. Tell us about your early days together.

VJ: I remember them well. Morgan was a novice in pairs, and he was afraid of a lot of things, I could see it on his face [laughs]. He kept saying "Oh la vache, oh la vache" [literally "Oh the cow", very mild expletive translated to Holy cow!, Holy moly! or Holy smokes!], I never heard this expression before and it made me laugh so much. I think it was also then that our bond was created. He made me laugh everyday on the ice.

MC: I'll correct what she said, I really was afraid for her. I had to be really careful. For me, the early days were not easy because I needed to learn a lot of things, very quickly. Vanessa already took a lot of risks, a lot more with someone who never had done any lifts and who was still learning. After all that, it has been a real pleasure to train with Vanessa, because we really got along right away. It's this bond that allowed a lot of things. It created our character. At the start, it was quite fun but also really stressful for me.

PM: Your pairs team really feels modern, something not often found in other pairs.

MC: It's natural for us. We're not trying to be a classic pairs team, we're trying to be ourselves, to emulate what we love in life. There is nothing fake from us that people see on the ice. We do seek things that the public would like, but without trying too hard. We just want to express ourselves naturally.

VJ: In life, we like to be well dressed, Morgan is always very well put together even off the ice, so for example, we also look for skating costumes that are a bit different, more modern. When we step onto the ice, before the music even start, we want to be a little bit different. We always pick music that suits us, modern songs, because we are to spend a season listening to them, so we do not want to get bored.

PM: Morgan, initially, you were not really keen on skating. You started really young...

MC: I fell into it by chance. I started at 4 or 5 years old, that age where you do not really know what you do and if you really like it. What made me stay in fact was the challenge to perform the jumps, I've always loved that. I kept up with it because of the competition. Honestly I could have done a lot of other sports, I love sports in general, but the competition is what characterizes me more than figure skating. I fell into it young, after that it's difficult to do something else, so I stayed.

PM: You've been skating together for 8 years, what is your favorite program so far?

MC: I think it is last year's program, the one that brought us real results. And it's the one that the public and also the judges liked the most. ["Sound of Silence"]

VJ: The short program from last year, I really liked everything. I felt free. I loved the costumes, our transitions, we had a really impressive throw. And I think you could see all the enjoyment I had skating that program. ["Earned It"]

PM: The results were hard to come by, did you have any doubts?

VJ: We had lots of doubts! [laughs] Last year, before our medal, when we decided to move to the United States, and change coaching team, it was a hard decision. We could not get onto the podium at Europeans before that. We had to decide either move and overcome the hurdle or stop competing. It turned out well, all the better for us.

MC: We ended fourth three times at the European Championships, we started to really doubt. We told ourselves we would never make it through. We were so close without getting there.

VJ: And we were not the only ones who had doubts. Around us, we were sometimes told that we might not be a good pair together, that maybe we didn't work hard enough. But we stuck together and proved those people wrong.

PM: You're really active on social media where you show another image of figure skating. Why is that important for you?

MC: We are not superstars, but the fact to show ourselves outside the rink, showing our personality in everyday life, it's always a good thing for the fans. We are regular people, we are athletes. It's important not to allow success go to our heads. We cannot say to ourselves: "That's it, I won a medal at the European Championships, I was on TV three or four times, I am somebody." We're just ourselves, and that's our appeal. We express ourselves with our feelings.

VJ: We uncover our personality, our wants, our day-to-day, and our style off the ice. It appeals to our fans, they live their lives with us, we become closer to them. Watching figure skater always on the ice, is not appealing, so it helps us, a lot of people responds to us.
 
Thank you for the translation! Both of them are so down to earth... they're right on the money on the social media, I truly enjoy following them on Instagram. For some reason it's really hard for me to imagine Morgan as a singles skater, I didn't know he had been.
 
Thanks again to Lived In Inch for translation - so appreciated!

I also did my homework for all James / Cipres fans out there and made this :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwgrH7xuesk

:party:

That video made me laugh. Thanks Julie!
If you have the chance to talk to them, your resident translator wants to know, could you ask them in what language they use to communicate on and off the ice? And are they still thinking of retiring? I hope not, but I found a French interview of them, that I will translate, back in October 2017 that mentioned retirement. But I've also read "one more year" from Vanessa since then.
Thank them for all their hard work and making this expat cheer for her country at the Olympics and Worlds and wish them good luck on their upcoming French exhibition tour. They must be exhausted.
 
That video made me laugh. Thanks Julie!
If you have the chance to talk to them, your resident translator wants to know, could you ask them in what language they use to communicate on and off the ice? And are they still thinking of retiring? I hope not, but I found a French interview of them, that I will translate, back in October 2017 that mentioned retirement. But I've also read "one more year" from Vanessa since then.
Thank them for all their hard work and making this expat cheer for her country at the Olympics and Worlds and wish them good luck on their upcoming French exhibition tour. They must be exhausted.

Great question! I'm always impressed by Vanessa's French, it's not an easy language to learn unless you live in a French Speaking Country, but she's so formidable I probably shouldn't be surprised!
In the PM interview Morgan mentions he started Skating at 4 or 5, I wonder how this came about, did he live near a rink, was he scouted? I remember Christopher Deane said a teacher recommended it because he was hyperactive! :laugh:
Vanessa always looks amazing on ice. Does she have a glam squad or do her own hair & make up?
Also what/who is their favourite Sport/Sports person outside of Skating & finally what's their favourite down time activity ? I see Morgan on a PS4 for some reason :laugh:
Also a kind request Julie, would you consider obtaining a signed momento from them? Totally understand if you can't but have to ask on this once in a lifetime opportunity :)
 
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