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2017-18 State of Russian Ladies skating

I hope Kamila Valieva will move to Eteri to gain some consistency

Depends whether Eteri would accept her. Many girls now have the full set of jumps and the hardest combinations and Eteri is a succesful coach, so now she is in position that she can be very picky about whom she will accept. Plus the facilities are not going to increase for the next season, so if she takes several skaters on, she may have to get rid of others.
 
I'd image Eteri searching through the 2005-2006 age group for a pre-puberty 2022OG contender - one with minority blood preferred. She may make her decision within 1-2 years.

I do hope that Kamila Valieva would be the lucky girl as I connect with her skating, but who knows? Maybe Daria Usacheva or another 2006 girl would best her and win Eteri's heart.
 
Kamila Valieva would be a pretty logical choice. Good body type, already good in many ways. Rather good jump height. Features that many will never have(Flexibility). Born at exactly the right time(in line with Zagitova and Lipnitskaya). On a less influential skating school which means that she'd be more likely to seek to change her coach in the first place.

I think there'd be quite a bit of potential there.
 
But if we take into account that she made from 12 yo hopeless girl with only a couple triples, mostly double jumps, in three years - an Olympic champion, then the list of potential superstars easily expands to the HUNDREDS.

The situation changes a little... When the goal is to get a girl to consistently jump triples, I believe that there indeed is a very large pool of skaters to choose from. But if we are in a competitive landscape where quads / 3As are performed and essentially required in order to be a victory contender, the pool becomes far smaller because girls with any sort of quad potential are few and far between.
 
So glad to see Eteri helping my favorite pairs girl with her jumps! oh man, if they could do things like 3F-3T or 3Lz-3T as their combos... Dasha only needs a bit more airtime on her lutz and just needs to bring her legs closer in, they'er a bit wrapped on her double, but she does it rippon-ed, so we'll see...

Also, I'd like to see Eteri take both Valieva and Usacheva but I guess that's not possible at the moment :( Unless some boys and Diana Guseva leave her, I suppose.
 
I wish Eteri had room for more pupils! there's so many girls I'd love to see her with -- Alena Kanysheva, Daria Usacheva, Kamila Valieva, Ksenia Melkumova, Uliana Vasilieva, Sofia Somdelkina, and Elizaveta Berestovskaya :) Maybe she should just stop doing boys :biggrin:
 
I wish Eteri had room for more pupils! there's so many girls I'd love to see her with -- Alena Kanysheva, Daria Usacheva, Kamila Valieva, Ksenia Melkumova, Sofia Somdelkina, and Elizaveta Berestovskaya :) Maybe she should just stop doing boys :biggrin:

It would probably be preferable for Russian skating if another coach would step-up and try to compete, for example by not shying away from teaching quads to her students. I'm thinking in particular of Svetlana Panova who's girl won the top 3 places in the 11-12 year category of Russian National Championship for Younger Age that just took place last week. She must be doing something right!

I was especially impressed by Kanysheva's performance.
 
Well, Panova's never coached a successful senior. She seems to be feeding into Eteri's school :laugh2: maybe they can merge to create the best system of skating education ever known to humankind :biggrin:
 
It would probably be preferable for Russian skating if another coach would step-up and try to compete, for example by not shying away from teaching quads to her students. I'm thinking in particular of Svetlana Panova who's girl won the top 3 places in the 11-12 year category of Russian National Championship for Younger Age that just took place last week. She must be doing something right!

I was especially impressed by Kanysheva's performance.

The novice national championships is divided according to calendar year (Januray to December) and not according to ISU year (July to June). That means that Kanysheva was competing against girls many of whom are not going to become eligible at the same season as her. Kanysheva needs to compare herself with girls who will become junior eligible as her. For example, Sinitsina will become junior age eligible the same season but was already age ineligible for this years novice nationals. It would be interesting to know who is the strongest based on the ISU eligibility rules.
 
Kanysheva's real talent is hidden by her garbage programs...my favorite girl of Panova's is Anastasia Kostyuk, who has that wonderful SP. Goes to show that programs do a lot :)
 
I prefer Kostyuk to Kanysheva, partly because of programmes and partly because of jumps. Each have their strength and weakness I think. Kostyuk's jumps are rather low but improving, while Kanysheva decelerates before each jump to a point that her jumps are anticlimactic. And Panova-style programmes do not help. I thought Eteri programmes were bad, until I saw the Panova girls.
 
Kanysheva's real talent is hidden by her garbage programs...my favorite girl of Panova's is Anastasia Kostyuk, who has that wonderful SP. Goes to show that programs do a lot :)
feel the same
I don't like her jumps and hands at all.
and I think Sinitsina and Kostyuk are much better.
my problem with Panova's girls.... none of them has something memorable in their skates/programs/elements. Something like WOW factor.
 
Kanysheva sure has some garbage programs.

Still, Kanysheva's not a great performer when it comes to artistry. Pretty sub par, I would say. And her jumps aren't good enough to compete with Eteri's girls. She has good skating skills and all but in order to compete... Actually, I'd say that Akatieva would easily have won this competition if she had been old enough - and she's over 2 years younger than Kanysheva.

Then we can consider that at this time last year when skaters like Shcherbakova and Trusova were Kanysheva's age, they were jumping quads...


But actually, weren't the top 3 here Kanysheva, Moroz and Frolova? How's that a hat trick? I missed some news?
 
Shayuki, the other poster was talking about the Moscow qualifiers to Elder Age (too hard to think about for my girl Dasha :cry:)
 
I really am just waiting for Dasha to turn senior and crush everyone (well okay maybe not Alina..)
 
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