Nathan Chen

[classicalfan]

I feel bad about saying that about Vincent's programs - I want to Vincent to do well! And I see skates with passion - certainly shows more outwards passion than Nathan and I am sure there is a music/program that can better suit where he is, at this point in time. Hoping for some great programs next season from him.

Mao's Last Dancer/Sacre du Printemps ... the music edit was so genius! The Mao's Last Dancer music is #23 Village Dance from the soundtrack and I think only one small section was cut ... the Rite of Spring section seemed like it was inserted quite seamlessly. love love love

Vincent is the only one I feels it much better to watch him live than the videos. When I was at the nationals, his programs made me emotional and you could feel his passion spread across the audience. But when I watched his videos, the programs still seemed a little rough to me.

The Mao's last dancer ost is really amazing itself. Lori cut out a small portion and made Nathan's version 1.25 or 1.5X than the original, which is more suitable for skating with.

 

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The two times I saw Hanyu’s program, I felt his skating helped covered the on-and-off music element missing in the program and his lightness gave the music note more fluidity. As for Vincent, I don’t like that version of the song and the lyrics made choppy editing more apparent, Vincent needs to refine his dancing skill so that may contributed to what I got from it but I do think it suited him better than the Moulin Rouge. I read somewhere last year, not sure in another thread or posts of how J-Butt has the tendency to edit the music to his choreography vs. allowing music as the main vehicle with minimal edit and then apply his dance, it’s all about personal style/taste though. I hope the opening is more exciting than the Legend opening.

@classicalfans“We always say that music has its own motivation and breath, and the best skater would be gifted to visualize the music with skating.” Well said! I think what I love about Nathan (aside from all else) is how he takes the audience on a visual journey, of any music genre, especially with lyrics which to me is the more difficult for the meaning, timing, passion knitted by each words, as if he’s dancing on each note allowing the passion behind the music flow through your veins, at times, not only blending the skate and music skillfully, you feel the story behind the music and leave with a piece of it in your heart.

Haha maybe Nathan can create a new sport basketball on ice Gotta love this spontaneous mojo he has!

 

[classicalfan]

Nathan combining his loves of skating and basketball

https://instagram.com/p/BhMxfZ8hjL2/

I am laughing so hard. Why is he so talented and cute!!!

 

[hhh]

WOW Zach is giving big time service to us!!! Love ya doing Beyoncé now?!

 

[classicalfan]

The two times I saw Hanyu’s program, I felt his skating helped covered the on-and-off music element missing in the program and his lightness gave the music note more fluidity. As for Vincent, I don’t like that version of the song and the lyrics made choppy editing more apparent, Vincent needs to refine his dancing skill so that may contributed to what I got from it but I do think it suited him better than the Moulin Rouge. I read somewhere last year, not sure in another thread or posts of how J-Butt has the tendency to edit the music to his choreography vs. allowing music as the main vehicle with minimal edit and then apply his dance, it’s all about personal style/taste though. I hope the opening is more exciting than the Legend opening.

@classicalfans“We always say that music has its own motivation and breath, and the best skater would be gifted to visualize the music with skating.” Well said! I think what I love about Nathan (aside from all else) is how he takes the audience on a visual journey, of any music genre, especially with lyrics which to me is the more difficult for the meaning, timing, passion knitted by each words, as if he’s dancing on each note allowing the passion behind the music flow through your veins, at times, not only blending the skate and music skillfully, you feel the story behind the music and leave with a piece of it in your heart.

Haha maybe Nathan can create a new sport basketball on ice Gotta love this spontaneous mojo he has!

YES. Honesty I was away from men skating after 2013 or Sochi. I felt something missing in those so-called great skaters in this Olympic cycle. Then, 2 years ago Patrick was back, and the gifted Nathan came to the senior stage! His musicality and versatility are truly amazing.

 

[shine]

The secondary creation on top of source music is different from irresponsible, weird music editing just to catering for tech elements (like in Boyang's FS, sorry Lori).
But Lori's job for Nathan's FS "last dancer" is absolutely one of her best music editing job.
the rite of spring cut in, kept its original phrasing intact. that is the intact phrasing of brush dance, the rite of spring and the village dance, the interaction parts between all 3 parts are perfectly phrased. she also did some sophisticated music cut/editing during the rite of spring and the village dance. both brilliantly done.

I think there are different ways of cutting music. And of course in skating with the programs being only 2:50 for SP and 4:30 for the FS, it's natural that most pieces get some kind of editing to fit that time frame. But with Hanyu's Ballace No. 1, the music is not just being edited but several musical phrases are being cut right down the middle. This is equivalent to cutting someone off in the middle of a sentence or like quoting someone but cropping the phrase before you even get to a comma, a semicolon or a period. Also because this music is quite well known, the cuts are especially jarring. Lori mentioned using a professional music editor as part of her choreography work and you can really see that. And it is my humble opinion that a self-respecting / sophisticated choreographer would never come up with such an amateur edit like this, especially when it comes to cutting classical music.

So having seen that, I hope Nathan sticks more to the kind of Lori or his old choreographer Nadia Kanaeva, who did the brilliant job of cutting Chopin concerto no.1!

 

[classicalfan]

I think there are different ways of cutting music. And of course in skating with the programs being only 2:50 for SP and 4:30 for the FS, it's natural that most pieces get some kind of editing to fit that time frame. But with Hanyu's Ballace No. 1, the music is not just being edited but several musical phrases are being cut right down the middle. This is equivalent to cutting someone off in the middle of a sentence or like quoting someone but cropping the phrase before you even get to a comma, a semicolon or a period. Also because this music is quite well known, the cuts are especially jarring. Lori mentioned using a professional music editor as part of her choreography work and you can really see that. And it is my humble opinion that a self-respecting / sophisticated choreographer would never come up with such an amateur edit like this, especially when it comes to cutting classical music.

So having seen that, I hope Nathan sticks more to the kind of Lori or his old choreographer Nadia Kanaeva, who did the brilliant job of cutting Chopin concerto no.1!

Such serious analysis. I hope I met you earlier!

 

[shine]

Such serious analysis. I hope I met you earlier!

Aww it's never too late

 

[besti loop]

omg this is just all too much, I’m seriously dying here ...

https://instagram.com/p/BhM0gYaFrM7/

Why are you doing this to me. This is too much, yes.

 

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@Classicalfan Around the same time for me as well, Sochi was difficult to watch to say the least and I only followed Patrick and Javi randomly for artistry plus my study and friends weren’t into it, but since late 2015 onward new found love for this sport I followed since a kid, I have since then 3 friends on board haha the spell he has casted on us

I read in one of the pre-OG articles Nadia was working with him when Raf is busy or on daily basis depends on the situation.

 

[hhh]

And Zach ends with an out of this world adorable clip of Nathan , aww Zach you’re super sweet to us. Now Jason is up next, you gotta big shoes to fill bruh!

 

[sheetz]

Mirai's IG story has a clip of a group number with the guys wearing hats.

 

[hhh]

@oatmella girl you need to stock up for the summer when he’s nowhere near sight, we need an overload of Nathan to brace the off season

Yaaas! Finally Nathan with hat, I wishing upon a Star when his papa adam showed off his costume Yaas!

 

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First row, the left and closest to her camera? Hope Adam is around when he trains in the summer so we get a lil of something

Who wouldn’t be having fun taking video of him especially when Nathan is in a real super mood to entertain like today haha

 

[sheetz]

Yeah, Nathan is closest to the camera. He's really in his element with these dancy show numbers. The guy in the middle (Adam?) was kind of struggling. LOL

 

[hhh]

Cool! His curls look so good with the hat, the urban Bali look! Glad he joined them on a night out yesterday, so happy he is enjoying himself.

 

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Wonder what tomorrow preshow will bring, excited!

 

[sheetz]

Here's that clip from Mirai's IG story. I think Adam and Jason are in the same row as him, and behind them are Zack and Alex (although I can't really tell which is which). Charlie is in the back.
https://twitter.com/worldchamp_2018...eblo.jp/constanze-m331/entry-12366221473.html

Even though there's no sound I swear Nathan holds his own with the ice dancers.

 

[SkatingMusic]

Here's that clip from Mirai's IG story. I think Adam and Jason are in the same row as him, and behind them are Zack and Alex (although I can't really tell which is which). Charlie is in the back.
https://twitter.com/worldchamp_2018...eblo.jp/constanze-m331/entry-12366221473.html

Even though there's no sound I swear Nathan holds his own with the ice dancers.

Is he the one in the middle?

 

[sheetz]

Is he the one in the middle?

He's the one on the left, closest to the camera. Then it's Adam and Jason.