2018-19 Russian Ladies' figure skating

[Tulipstar]

Alina, Evgenia and Kaetlyn skate to ''I had a dream''. Just beautiful!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbiDe3Mrroc

It's nice how these Japanese shows give them the opportunity to do different things and work together.

 

[Tyranid]

You know what, when I realise I made a typo in skater's name I'll correct it, even if I don't find his/her skating interesting to watch. That makes the difference, I suppose.

Btw, her correct name is "Медведева" in cyrillics, so why do you think it's "Medevedeva" in roman letters?

Grin, to be fair, since you're talking about correct spelling, it is cyrillic and not cyrillics. It's an adjective and an adjective cannot have a plural form.

 

[Spirals for Miles]

JGP vs GP
I was thinking about JGP and GP series in next season. Both will be very exiting for sure. I tried to figure it out what is more interesting to me. My overall favorite skater is Evgenia, but juniors can make a revolution in ladies. I hope Sasha will get 4lz, Anna will regain her 4t and Alena will get 3A.
So, I have higher expectations about juniors next season. Therefore I'm more interested in JGP.
And you,people? What is more exiting/interesting to you?

I much prefer the JGP
Just... Russia needs to host again so they can get that extra spot

 

[russianfan]

JGP vs GP
I was thinking about JGP and GP series in next season. Both will be very exiting for sure. I tried to figure it out what is more interesting to me. My overall favorite skater is Evgenia, but juniors can make a revolution in ladies. I hope Sasha will get 4lz, Anna will regain her 4t and Alena will get 3A.
So, I have higher expectations about juniors next season. Therefore I'm more interested in JGP.
And you,people? What is more exiting/interesting to you?

JGP obviously. Way higher overall level of participants than in GP. Not even comparable. Only one reason to watch GP for me and it starts with Z

 

[Spirals for Miles]

Is there any chance Vasilieva could get a JGP for beating Kanysheva, Sinitsyna, Tarakanova, and Shcherbakova at nationals? Or no since she didn't qualify for Elder nationals?

Well.... I'm not sure... she was on the sub list for this year and didn't get anything, she's not the most consistent, and she's probably the most forgotten-about out of Panova's girls. Beating them at junior nationals does have weight but so does the not making Elder nationals... but a lot of girls didn't make Elder nationals and it's more about the qualification system than their skating

I think the problem is not that they doubt in her skating but that they don't have room for her (or Kostyuk for that matter)

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JGP obviously. Way higher overall level of participants than in GP. Not even comparable. Only one reason to watch GP for me and it starts with Z

Not even an M makes you watch?
now what if they have to go head to head? in the GP? I might cry.

 

[sweetice]

JGP vs GP
I was thinking about JGP and GP series in next season. Both will be very exiting for sure. I tried to figure it out what is more interesting to me. My overall favorite skater is Evgenia, but juniors can make a revolution in ladies. I hope Sasha will get 4lz, Anna will regain her 4t and Alena will get 3A.
So, I have higher expectations about juniors next season. Therefore I'm more interested in JGP.
And you,people? What is more exiting/interesting to you?

If we think only about the ladies, yes, i'm also more interested in the next JGP. But only for the next year, because the following season the better ones become senior eligible and only then they can make that revolution a recognized reality.

Final aside, it's sooner, anyway. After that i'm sure that other kind of expectations may rise, at least for me

 

[yoloaxel]

JGP vs GP
I was thinking about JGP and GP series in next season. Both will be very exiting for sure. I tried to figure it out what is more interesting to me. My overall favorite skater is Evgenia, but juniors can make a revolution in ladies. I hope Sasha will get 4lz, Anna will regain her 4t and Alena will get 3A.
So, I have higher expectations about juniors next season. Therefore I'm more interested in JGP.
And you,people? What is more exiting/interesting to you?

I seem to be in the minority, but definitely senior GP. I think there are obviously some amazing skaters in JGP (Kostornaya being my favorite by a mile) but in most cases in my opinion they still skate like... well, juniors, despite their technical prowess (again, excluding Kostornaya). I like the performance aspect too much to prefer JGP.

 

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I'm thinking about attending both Rostelecom Cup and Russian Nationals(especially Nationals!). But i don't know what normal price for tickets usually is. Like, not the most expensive ones but also not the cheapest ones. Something average with a decent view. Samkrut, any info on this? I've seen prices for previous Nationals and they were like 1000-5000 for ladies free. Is that real? Which competition is more expensive btw?

Last year was an outlier with both Hanyu and Medvedeva present: official reasonable seats were impossible to get, we decided we don't want to pay the unofficial price, first, and I had to be in another city anyway, second.

But in general the trick is to catch the beginning of the sales from the official partner. Usually it is parter.ru. If you are lucky to be within the first hour you can get good seats for the official price. I was a bit slow in 2015 and 2016 but still managed to get 15th or 16th row in the very middle. But then I decided to improve and went to resellers. I can't say about 2015 but in 2016 a seat in the first row in the middle cost me 10 000 rbls which seemed high back then but which is nothing compared to what they asked for that in 2017 (50 000) or with OG ticket prices.

 

[moriel]

Yep, I´m all for the JGP.
If everything goes well, we may see ladies WRs being broken.

 

[jangiksu0000]

I have made a new list of young Russian lady's skaters.
https://ameblo.jp/umasann0000/entry-12335835396.html
Here I present many promising skaters.
Some promising skaters have a youtube link.

I evaluated their potential as below.
Values: 特A = excellent / A =very good / B = good / 未定= to be evaluated

 

[Spirals for Miles]

Just curious, why do you find Moroz to be better than Sinitsyna and Kanysheva?

 

[Shayuki]

For me, the two biggest issues with that are Sofia Moroz as mentioned... Even if you had her at the best of her age group(Which I'll still disagree with), she should be nowhere near the highest rating. The second big issue is Yana Liventseva over Muravyova or Samodelkina for instance. That makes even less sense because unlike Kanysheva / Sinitsyna, these are top talents even historically. There's not a single category Liventseva is superior to either. Just like with Moroz. Both of these girls also have very grating skating skills.

 

[j00mla]

Just curious, why do you find Moroz to be better than Sinitsyna and Kanysheva?

I can't say for jangiksu0000 but for me Moroz resembles Alёna with her arm movements. So may be this is a reason?

 

[Scott512]

At this point, I am surely going to Sochi in September to watch test skates. Well, they were in Sochi last years. Moscow and St.Petersburg will work for me as well.

Never did I attach so much importance to this event - may be only in 2014 when the big question was in what shape Yulia and Adelina were and if 2 time junior world champion Radionova was fit for her senior career. This time the outlook for the season is so uncertain that any information will be extremely valuable.

The question of them all is Medvedeva. Is she going to continue? Yes, she said she will. But Adelina after Sochi said she would like to win all types of titles never coming back in reality. Will she have surgery? Will it be successful? I think that Medvedeva is the best overall skater in the world. The true artist. And she can further develop. Health and motivation for 4 more years - that's the question, if she has them.

I don't attach so much importance to Alina's disaster in Milano. After Korea she had severe flu. It was a big sacrifice for her to participate in that show. I can understand the Fed - Russian public wanted to see our Olympic champion - the only one in individual events. But after that sacrifice the chances for meltdown became just too high and they materialized. The question I have is all those rumours that she started to grow. She may be in the middle of the growth spurt next season. Her technique is good and she does not plan to add 3A or quads. Still growing up may affect the consistency of the jumps.

But then it's all unclear. I don't believe in Maria any more: everything was at stake during the Olympic season. But other than GPF she could not deliver to her potential. And frankly speaking I don't understand how she will be able too. She looks more like a model now with her 173. Still I may be wrong if she pulls some inner strings and comes strong during test skates with killer programs.

Konstantinova is finished, I think - just don't see how she may get the team another time. But once again what if she shines - no falls, the same speed and the same smile when she is on? May be the test skates will become the first step for new Konstantinova?

Anna P and Polina T. We don't hear about them recently. Will they show up? Do they have anything to show to make a statement that they are still relevant?

I don't believe in Liza T's serious comeback. Just impossible. But she was the world champion if someone forgot. Elena R was not. Will she go for another quad? Does she still have this competitive grit she showed before? I would love to see her back ready, willing, and able to bring a new fight.

And then newcomers Daria Panenkova and Nastya Angel Gubanova. Daria has been a low pcs skater. But she knows how to jump. Just regular stuff even with 3Lz-3Lo won't be enough for her to get to the top of the ranks. Is she going to surprise us with something extraordinary? Nastya used to be gorgeous. I remember her masterpiece of R&J. But she gained weight - it is impossible to deny. How would she fare in September?

There are a lot of possibilities there that's for sure.

The best competition next season might be Russian Nationals with Alena and Sasha joining the party! Alena for the second time.

 

[Spirals for Miles]

and Nastya Tarakanova!!

 

[skatenewbie]

I believe Polina is capable of making good comeback next season. I'm more worried about Anna. What about her back? What with her mentality? Is she going to change coach or not? If so who she can move to?


Nastya's puberty was a killer to her already poor jumping technique. When she was smaller abrupt take off and tilted axis weren't as problematic as after she developed. I don't think moving to Buianova is good move as Buianova isn't definitely jumping coach. I wonder what about Daria. Will her pcs rise like Alina's after she moves to seniors or not? Will she have better programs? I hope so

Gubanove is not that inconsistent though and she will some PCS to back up, i mean her PCS is way higher than usual junior in domestic comp (only few have higher/near her PCS like Kostornaya, Trusova, Scherbakova) . As long as she rotate and land her jumps she can become podium contender (well maybe not gold) in senior. In junior with Trusova quads, Kostornaya 3A it will be hard. I hope she does well in senior if she moves up. I can see her PCS rising and with Buianova as her coach its more possible. About Daria i think she will rise but not by much? Consistency is not always the matter, in Sotskova debut senior she make it into GPF but her PCS still in 65 range iirc. Well she does bombed in GPF though.

 

[Spirals for Miles]

Well, Daria is consistent. So her PCS should rise. Right?

 

[blue_ice]

Anna P. moved to Plushenko's school. Kamila Valieva moved to Eteri

 

[Spirals for Miles]

YESSSSSS!!! Kamila with Eteri! She has the jumps she just needs the consistency!

 

[alvina9894]

Anna P. moved to Plushenko's school. Kamila Valieva moved to Eteri

Are these official?