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Retire, what are you talking about ??
https://twitter.com/Iron_Klaus/status/993060059537182721
https://twitter.com/Iron_Klaus/status/993060059537182721
Evgenia Medvedeva
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I never said anything about retirement...?
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Oh, sorry, my bad.
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Is her foot healed?
Does Zhenya need a change? Probably. But to me its too much against Eteri and I cant stands no more as Popeye would say! If Zhenya did not break her foot she would not have lost her momentum and some confidence which opened the door for Alinas rise to the top. If Zhenya did not break her foot she might very well have been olympic champion and unbeaten for close to 3 years! And she would stiill be with Eteri for more years. But sports is cruel and Zhenya got injured and eveything changed leading to this coaching change.
I feel for Zhenya who is sensitive for any pain she is going through leaving Eteri, Sergey, Danill and also possibly leaving her beloved Russia to live and train abroad.
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Does Zhenya need a change? Probably. But to me its too much against Eteri and I cant stands no more as Popeye would say! If Zhenya did not break her foot she would not have lost her momentum and some confidence which opened the door for Alinas rise to the top. If Zhenya did not break her foot she might very well have been olympic champion and unbeaten for close to 3 years! And she would stiill be with Eteri for more years. But sports is cruel and Zhenya got injured and eveything changed leading to this coaching change.
I feel for Zhenya who is sensitive for any pain she is going through leaving Eteri, Sergey, Danill and also possibly leaving her beloved Russia to live and train abroad.
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Can't wait to see a stronger Zhenya in the new season [emoji1320][emoji1320][emoji1320]
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Ok so idk if anyone read this yet https://sportrbc.ru/news/5aed5edb9a794719da6d738f?utm_source=fb_rbc I KNOW that people are distrustful over media when it comes to Evgenia's case BUT there are some things that really made me go :think:
Ok so firstly:
- "According to the agency, Medvedeva can also change athletic citizenship, so that, given the high competition in the Russian national team, they can guarantee themselves participation in major international competitions." Which I mean seems like quite a logical step, as she has stated she will compete no matter what.
- "When changing sports citizenship, Medvedeva will have to withstand a two-year quarantine, which will be counted from the moment of her last speech. The last time the skater went to the ice on February 23, 2018, performing an arbitrary program at the Olympics in Pyeongchang. She will be able to start performances for the new country from the World Cup 2020, which will be held on March 16-22 in Montreal. At the same time, with the consent of the Skating Federation of Russia, the International Skating Union may approve Medvedev's transition before the deadline." NOW THIS IS INTERESTING... Of course since she had that nasty injury plus coach change I don't think they'd put her up to compete immediately but hmmmmmm :think:
Secondly: (Now I don't completely agree with Yagudin here, since he tries to relate Eteri-Zhenya-Alina's case to his-Mishin-Plushenko's which in my opinion is completely different. Alina and Evegnia are close friends while Yagudin and Plushenko... well... were not? But lemme explain)
- ""I already said before that two people can not win, they can not get along with one coach, no matter how hard he tries to do everything right. I judge from the situation that was with Plushenko and Mishin, you can train together, but someone will be psychologically crushed in any case. I understood at the age of 18, yes, I must say, to stay is a dead end. Maybe Medvedeva felt the same, "Yagudin said." As I said, I don't fully agree with his statement BUT the last part is kinda important. Either Zhenya or Alina would've been psychologically crushed if they both stayed under Eteri. The constant comparisons and the good ol' question of "Who Will Be Eteri's Next Favoured Student Over The Other" would've led to one of the girls being crushed under pressure. Clearly Zhenya went away soooo now it's Alina facing the younger generation. I think the last lines Yagudin said are very relevant in this situation....
Ok so firstly:
- "According to the agency, Medvedeva can also change athletic citizenship, so that, given the high competition in the Russian national team, they can guarantee themselves participation in major international competitions." Which I mean seems like quite a logical step, as she has stated she will compete no matter what.
- "When changing sports citizenship, Medvedeva will have to withstand a two-year quarantine, which will be counted from the moment of her last speech. The last time the skater went to the ice on February 23, 2018, performing an arbitrary program at the Olympics in Pyeongchang. She will be able to start performances for the new country from the World Cup 2020, which will be held on March 16-22 in Montreal. At the same time, with the consent of the Skating Federation of Russia, the International Skating Union may approve Medvedev's transition before the deadline." NOW THIS IS INTERESTING... Of course since she had that nasty injury plus coach change I don't think they'd put her up to compete immediately but hmmmmmm :think:
Secondly: (Now I don't completely agree with Yagudin here, since he tries to relate Eteri-Zhenya-Alina's case to his-Mishin-Plushenko's which in my opinion is completely different. Alina and Evegnia are close friends while Yagudin and Plushenko... well... were not? But lemme explain)
- ""I already said before that two people can not win, they can not get along with one coach, no matter how hard he tries to do everything right. I judge from the situation that was with Plushenko and Mishin, you can train together, but someone will be psychologically crushed in any case. I understood at the age of 18, yes, I must say, to stay is a dead end. Maybe Medvedeva felt the same, "Yagudin said." As I said, I don't fully agree with his statement BUT the last part is kinda important. Either Zhenya or Alina would've been psychologically crushed if they both stayed under Eteri. The constant comparisons and the good ol' question of "Who Will Be Eteri's Next Favoured Student Over The Other" would've led to one of the girls being crushed under pressure. Clearly Zhenya went away soooo now it's Alina facing the younger generation. I think the last lines Yagudin said are very relevant in this situation....
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Needless to say it is not only dependent on Eteri BUT the Federation which skater they favour over the other.... idk just... my thoughts
it is funnier with video. she shows that she doesnt sit around twiddling her thumbs Zhenyaworkout I want to read her biography i guess we must wait few years
it isnt latest trend, people tend to think like that, good-bad. https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/darwins-subterranean-world/201601/black-and-white-thinking-in-our-social-worlds Zhenya not winning next season=Orser is overrated, Eteri is better. now eteri is our enemy, our=Zhenya fans, few months ago she was Zhenya's second mom
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HOLY MOLY
THE SALT IS REAL.... "The special correspondent of RIA Novosti Elena Vaitsekhovskaya argues in the editorial blog about why this transition was inevitable, and why none of the interested parties won it." Ok first of all... Don't tell me they won't train the other girls even harder from now on that Evgenia left XD
"Such decisions are not accepted in one night. They need to be coordinated, negotiated on the financial side of the relationship, solve a lot of domestic issues, especially when it comes to leaving to train overseas. Medvedeva, however, had time to think. I guess this is the only thing that she did all the time that she could not skate, healing the leg injury that had become aggravated after the Games." YES SHE HAD TIME TO THINK. SHE IS AN ADULT AND SERIOUS SPORTSWOMAN....
"Why did she leave too clearly, because she was betrayed. So at least claimed by those who for many years was a fan of Eugene, was waiting for her Olympic victory in Korea, as well as Medvedeva lost head start of her life Alina Zagitova , she hastened to bring down the anger on the coach to make the main Olympic bid on more promising athlete group." Ok so the translation might be wrong... but if not... then to the person who wrote this: Please do not go into assumptions!!!! Daniil for one said that the relationship between Evgenia and Eteri has always been strong and they will figure out the future... this statement basically **** talking...
"Secondly, purely in a coaching manner, Tutberidze was right: in order to bring a pupil to Olympic gold, she worked for many years as damned, sacrificing absolutely everything. And what should I do when Medvedev suffered a trauma? Give up this dream because of the fact that her main athlete suddenly left the game for an indefinite period? It would not be at all in her nature, and once a beloved apprentice like no other had to understand this." I literally feel attacked and they aren't even writing this about me...
"if Zhenya did not lose to Alina Zagitova a month before the Games, she would at least had a chance to win over her in Pyeongchang" Ummmmmmm.... I'm preeetty sure her injury was a prominent issue here????? So?????
"It remained only to guess whether there was a public clash of two athletes on the eve of the main start by a completely conscious and very accurate calculation of the coach. But even if so, who is ready to condemn Tutberidze? The country wanted a gold Olympic medal - and got it. The fact that it was won by the "wrong" athlete is already particular." Lmao this is literally unnecessary drama over Alina's and Evgenia's PRIVATE relationship... Plus slatiness again
"To begin with, this contradicts the very concept of the group, where everything is arranged according to the principle "the strongest survives". The situation that has arisen between Medvedev and Zagitova this season is just another reminder: even if you are a two-time world champion, you can not get stuck with you, if you stumble, nobody will. This, in fact, was clear before - on the example of the "golden girl of Sochi" Julia Lipnitskaya." EVGENIA (clapping emoji) IS (clapping emoji) NOT (clapping emoji) JULIA (clapping emoji) These two have different problems. YOU CANNOT GENERALISE SOMEONE.
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No way she will change country, the money she is getting is from Russian sponsors, and everyone needs money to go on. That’s it.
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You're missing there the two little sentences after that paragraph. That's not what she is saying. It's best not to go by machine translation, it's not good, especially in more complex write ups as this one.
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Exactly.
I don't know why if she changes nationalities should matter whether you are a fan or not.. Maybe it is just me, but I don't become a fan based on their nationality.
Eteri should take care of alina so she will not leave her too,no more yelling pls. Since alina is turning 16 i dont think its approriate to yell or mock her when she did wrong i mean she an OGM now not an ordinary skater. Its just painful to watch alina crying while skating just like what happen in japan before olympics.
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spirited away medley would be a dream come true for me, but idk it's a difficult music
i love all evgenia's music choices for competitive programs tbh. and since a lot of people are happy that she'll get new music and choreo now in tcc i have just one question 'who chose this carmen's version for gabby...:sad4:'
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