Evgenia Medvedeva

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Evgenia Medvedeva (Russian: Евгения Медведева) is a Ladies Singles skater who represents Russia. She was born on 19 November 1999 in Moscow, Russia.

Medvedeva is a two-time Olympic silver medalist (2018 ladies' singles, 2018 team event), a two-time world champion (2016, 2017), a two-time European champion (2016, 2017), a two-time Grand Prix Final champion (2015, 2016), a two-time Russian national champion (2016, 2017), silver medalist at the 2018 European Figure Skating Championships and bronze medalist at the 2019 World Championships. Earlier in her career, she won the 2015 World Junior Championships, the 2014 Junior Grand Prix Final, and the 2015 Russian Junior Championships.


How Evgenia Medvedeva pronounces her name (video by sabinfire)
http://youtu.be/sxD9lODnIjk

Last updated on 18 February 2020 by dorispulaski
31 July 2019 by Mohacz​
September 2018 Update by LKGwennire​
November 2015 Update by tulosai​


Brief Career Summary

Evgenia is the 2017 and 2016 World champion and the 2018 Olympics silver medalist (individually and in team event). She is also the 2017 and 2016 Russian National champion, the 2016 and 2015 Grand Prix Final champion and 2015 World Junior champion. Evgenia Medvedeva is the only ladies’ skater to date to win back to back senior and junior world titles.

Biographical Information

ISU Biography: http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00014068.htm

Wikipedia Article: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evgenia_Medvedeva

Allskaters profile: https://allskaters.info/evgenia_medvedeva/

FSRussia Biography: https://web.archive.org/web/20190714142241/http://www.fskate.ru/skaters/1840.html

Rinkresults.com entry - http://rinkresults.com/skater?skater_id=697

Social Media Information

Instagram: https://instagram.com/jmedvedevaj/?hl=en

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/evgenizhenya/

Twitter: https://www.twitter.com/JannyMedvedeva

Personal VK: https://vk.com/id27210744

Fan VK: www.vk.com/yevgeny_medvedeva

VK Blog Page where she and a friend were blogging/vlogging (this is largely abandoned): https://vk.com/public78723435

Periscope: https://www.periscope.tv/JannyMedvedeva


TypeScoreCompetition
Total Score225.76
ISU GP Rostelecom Cup 2019​
SP76.93ISU GP Rostelecom Cup 2019
FS149.57
ISU World Championships 2019



TypeScoreCompetition
Total Score241.312017 World Team Trophy
SP81.61XXIII Olympic Winter Games PyeongChang 2018
FS160.462017 World Team Trophy


Programs and Videos


2019/2020

SP: "Exogenesis Symphony Part 3" by Muse; choreo by Ilia Averbukh
FS: "Memoirs of a Geisha" OST by John Williams; choreo by Shae-Lynn Bourne
2019-20 Russian Championships2019 Rostelecom Cup2019 Skate Canada2019 Shanghai Trophy2019 CS Autumn Classic
2018/2019
SP1: "Orange Colored Sky" by Natalie Cole, choreo. by David Wilson
SP2: "Tosca" by Giacomo Puccini, choreo. by Misha Ge
FS: "Mumuki" / "Regreso al amor" / "Libertango" by Astor Piazzolla (performed by Yo-Yo Ma), choreo. by David Wilson
Ex: "Beautiful Mess" by Kristian Kostov

2019 World Championships2019 Cup of Russia Final2019 Russian National Championships2018 GP Internationaux de France2018 GP Skate Canada2018 Autumn Classic International2018 Russian Test Skates
2017/2018
SP: "Nocturne in C-sharp minor" by Chopin (performance by Joshua Bell), choreo. by Ilya Averbukh
FS1: "Leftovers" soundtrack
FS2: "Anna Karenina" soundtrack by Dario Marianelli, choreo. by Daniil Gleichengauz

XXIII Winter Olympic Games PyeongChang 2018 - individual eventXXIII Winter Olympic Games PyeongChang 2018 - team event2018 European Championships2017 GP NHK Trophy2017 GP Rostelecom Cup2017 Japan Open2017 CS Ondrej Nepela Trophy2017 Russian Test Skates
2016/2017
SP: "River Flows in You" by Yiruma / "The Winter by Balmorhea", choreo. by Ilya Averbukh
FS: "Extremely Loud and Incredibly Close" soundtrack by Alexandre Desplat, choreo. by Ilya Averbukh

2017 World Team Trophy2017 World Championships2017 European Championships2017 Russian Nationals2016/17 Grand Prix Final Nagoya2016 GP Trophée de France2016 GP Skate Canada2016 Japan Open
2015-2016 Season
SP: "Melodies of the White Nights" by Isaac Schwartz, choreo. by Alexander Zhulin
FS: "Dance For Me Wallis" (from "W.E.") by Abel Korzeniowski, "Allegro" by René Aubry, "Charms" (from "W.E.") by Abel Korzeniowski, choreo. by Ilia Averbukh and Igor Strelkin

2016 Team Challenge Cup2016 World Championships2016 European Championships2016 Russian Nationals2015/16 Grand Prix Final2015 GP Rostelecom Cup2015 GP Skate America2015 CS Nepela Trophy2015 Russian Test Skates
2014/2015
SP: "The Umbrellas of Cherbourg" by Michel Legrand, choreo. by Alexander Zhulin
FS: "Ein Sommernachtstraum" by Hans Günter Wagener / "Tango Tschak" by Hugues Le Bars

2015 Junior World Championships2015 Russian Nationals2014/15 JGP Final Barcelona2014 JGP Czech Republic2014 JGP France
2013/2014
SP: "Ballet Russe" by Frank Mills
FS: "Nocturne" (from "La Califfa") by Ennio Morricone / "Never Gonna Miss You" by various artists

2014 Junior World Championships2014 Russian Nationals2013/14 JGP Final Barcelona2013 JGP Latvia2013 JGP Poland
2012/2013
SP: "James Bond Theme"
FS: "Na Katere" by Eugen Doga Gramofon by Eugen Doga

2013 Russian Junior Nationals2012 Cup of Russia
Competitive History

Rows in azure - Russian domestic competitions

CompetitionLevelSPFSTS
2019/2020
2019-20 Russian Championshipssenior5 (71.08)WDWD
2019 GP Rostelecom Cupsenior1 (76.93)2 (148.83)2 (225.76)
2019 GP Skate Canada Internationalsenior6 (62.89)3 (146.73)5 (209.62)
2019 Shanghai Trophysenior1 (72.16)2 (119.62)1 (191.78)
2019 CS Autumn Classic Internationalsenior2 (75.14)2 (142.29)2 (217.43)
2018/2019
2019 World Championshipssenior4 (74.23)3 (149.57)3 (223.80)
2019 Cup of Russia Finalsenior1 (76.89)2 (146.01)1 (222.90)
2019 Russian National Championshipssenior14 (62.24)4 (143.66)7 (205.90)
2018 GP Internationaux de Francesenior3 (67.55)5 (125.26)4 (192.81)
2018 GP Skate Canada Internationalsenior7 (60.83)1 (137.08)3 (197.91)
2018 CS Autumn Classic Internationalsenior1 (70.98)2 (133.91)2 (204.89)
2017/2018
XXIII Winter Olympic Games PyeongChang 2018 - individual eventsenior2 (81.61)1 (156.65)2 (238.26)
XXIII Winter Olympic Games PyeongChang 2018 - team eventsenior1 (81.06)-2 (66)
2018 European Championshipssenior2 (78.57)2 (154.29)2 (232.86)
2017 GP NHK Trophysenior1 (79.99)1 (144.40)1 (224.39)
2017 GP Rostelecom Cupsenior1 (80.75)1 (150.46)1 (231.21)
2017 Japan Opensenior-1 (152.08)1 (152.08)
2017 CS Ondrej Nepela Trophysenior1 (80.00)1 (146.72)1 (226.72)
2016/2017
2017 World Team Trophysenior1 (80.85)1 (160.46)2 (241.31) - T
2017 World Championshipssenior1 (79.01)1 (154.40)1 (233.41)
2016 European Championshipssenior1 (72.55)1 (142.90)1 (215.45)
2015-16 Russian Nationalssenior1 (79.44)1 (155.44)1 (234.88)
2015-16 Grand Prix Finalsenior1 (75.58)1 (147.96)1 (222.54)
2015 GP Rostelecom Cupsenior3 (67.03)1 (139.73)2 (206.76)
2015 GP Skate Americasenior1 (70.92)2 (135.09)1 (206.01)
2015 Ondrej Nepela Trophysenior1 (63.68)2 (120.26)1 (183.94)
2014/2015
2015 World Junior Championshipsjunior1 (68.48)1 (124.49)1 (192.97)
2015 Russian Junior National Championshipsjunior1 (70.95)1 (134.10)4 (205.05)
2015 Russian National Championshipssenior3 (72.57)3 (137.24)3 (209.81)
2015 Junior Grand Prix Finaljunior1 (67.09)1 (123.80)3 (190.89)
2014 JGP Czech Skatejunior2 (55.92)2 (115.20)1 (171.12)
2014 JGP Courcheveljunior1 (61.12)1 (118.43)1 (179.55)
2013/2014
2014 World Junior Championshipsjunior3 (63.72)3 (114.71)3 (178.43)
2014 Cup of Russia Finaljunior2 (66.05)2 (124.52)2 (190.57)
2014 Russian Junior National Championshipsjunior4 (63.25)4 (120.45)4 (183.70)
2014 Russian National Championshipssenior8 (62.19)8 (119.67)7 (181.86)
2014 Junior Grand Prix Finaljunior3 (58.75)5 (104.93)3 (163.68)
2013 Ice Star Minskjunior1 (62.12)1 (118.01)1 (180.13)
2013 JGP Baltic Cupjunior1 (61.61)1 (118.35)1 (179.96)
2013 JGP Riga Cupjunior3(55.17)1 (114.35)1 (169.52)
2012/2013
2013 Russian Elder Age Championshipsjunior1 (188.94)
2013 Russian Spartakiadejunior2 (191.44)
2013 Winter Spartakiade Qualifications (3rd stage of the 6th Winter Spartakiade)junior1 (179.60)
2013 Russian Junior National Championshipsjunior5 (61.35)4 (118.34)4 (180.19)
5th stage of the Cup of Russiajunior1 (62.54)1 (115.19)1 (177.73)
4th stage of the Cup of Russia 2012junior6 (57.44)3 (111.82)4 (169.26)
2012 President of Moscow Figure SKating Federation's Prizesjunior(52.37)WD(52.37)
2011/2012
2012 Russian Elder Age Championshipsjunior

1 (162.14)
2012 Moscow Elder Age Championshipsjunior

1 (165.15)
2012 Cup of Russia Finaljunior

2 (163.32)
2012 Russian Junior National Championshipsjunior7 (54.86)7 (103.64)6 (158.50)
2012 Russian National Championshipssenior11 (58.21)8 (108.53)8 (161.74)
5th stage of the Cup of Russia 2011junior

2 (163.44)
3rd stage of the Cup of Russia 2011junior5 (49.58)1 (110.27)2 (159.85)
1st stage of the Cup of Russia 2011junior4 (49.96)2 (96.67)2 (146.63)
2011 Moscow Open Championshipsjunior

3 (135.89)
2010/2011
2011 Russian Younger Age Championshipsadvanced novice

2 (198.46)
2011 Russian Spartakiade


1 (148.08)
2011 Cup of Russia Finaljunior1 (49.16)2 (92.40)2 (141.56)
2011 Moscow Younger Age Championshipsadvanced novice

2 (184.99)
2011 Russian Junior National Championshipsjunior13 (42.57)12 (88.93)12 (131.50)
5th stage of the Cup of Russia 2010junior3 (44.30)2 (88.10)2 (132.40)
4th stage of the Cup of Russia Cup 2010junior13 (36.39)4 (86.44)7 (122.83)
3rd stage of the Cup of Russia 2010junior10 (40.68)7 (78.10)9 (118.78)
2010 President of Moscow Figure Skating Federation's Prizesjunior

2 (133.02)
2nd stage of the Cup of Russia 2010junior4 (43.74)5 (76.92)5 (120.66)
2010 Moscow Open Championshipsjunior

13 (109.79)
2009/2010
2010 Russian Younger Age Championshipsnovice

12 (128.20)
2010 Moscow Younger Age Championshipsnovice

6 (128.42)
2008/2009
2009 Moscow Younger Age Championshipsnovice

16 (106.62)
2008 President of Moscow Figure Skating Federation's Prizesnovice

8 (99.91)

Programs Prior to 2012-2013 Season (early career)

2012 SP Russian Nationals: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wzzVLrz5bI
2012 FS Russian Nationals: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWriPD-MtCk
2011 Cup of Russia FS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9iuun6vRjQ
2011 Show in Moscow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6MXMDfOxEs
2011 Open Championship of Russia FS: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOYQelsuDCI
2011 Moscow Championship SP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=507gbnOzUHk
2010 Rosii Cup SP: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vGFlcKEb0II
2008-2010: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XEmDv-YXu0
2009 Odintsevo Competition (first place): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLwctoUNiUE
2007-2008 (eight years old): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CKo2i3OXzow

Exhibitions​

2019 Skate Canada Gala: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GH73mOI1_-8
2019 Shanghai Trophy Gala: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wU7drEwlZA0
2019 World Gala: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDMb8MNx0pk
2018 Skate Canada Gala: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2hSuMViygw
April 2018, Anna Karenina: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DUXYJWshHkk
2018 Olympic Gala: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZwriC_K6J4
2017 Russian Nationals Gala: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSX4o_aJ2T8
2016 Trophée de France Gala: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MbZM5qsSlpc
2016 "Mamari" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICS_O__4fiw
2016 TCC Gala: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CL5pS7kxJqI
2016 Worlds Gala: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oV6pBJ6peqo
2015-16 Russian Nationals Gala: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVojd5O8GVo
2015 GPF Gala: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oGIRJcxTRVk
Stayin' Alive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o7c5JsKJcSI
Non, je ne regrette rien: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eloDO_k95Jo
Russian Gypsy Music: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNXUqP829uA
Sailor Moon: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-Q0FhFbdyE
2014 JGP Courchevel Gala: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zmmVuJUjOGg

Articles and Interviews​

 
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I have noticed that many people -including me- liked her more this season. I think we can say that she is one of the contenders for 2018. Good luck to her!! :popcorn:
 

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I checked out her results table on wikipedia and thought it very strange that in 6 national competitions she placed from 12th-4th place, yet in her 6 international competitions she's gotten bronze twice and gold four times :think:
 

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Her marks aren't hugely different though; maybe just how others skated on the day, or nationals being more competitive. some skaters do better at nationals. edit: actually last season she's only 7th in the senior ones (2010 or even 2012 is too long ago for someone young)
 

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Yes, anything even up to a season ago wouldn't be too big of an indicator in a young skater's skill or performance level, now would it? ;) She's been just off the podium the last two russian jc, so it's good to see her doing well at all of her international junior events. If she wasn't bringing it to international competitions.... well, you know skater from larger federations can get quickly lost in the shuffle :no:

I look forward to seeing her at the JGPF this year! Assuming she qualifies of course. She already has 15 points now for winning JGP France, right? :)
 

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Last year Evgenia's highest SP component score was 26.6 and at Courchevel she scored 26.03, she has already matched her component score from last year and it is only August. It shows how much she has improved that side of her skating.
 

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She's one of those people who really want it.
After reading many interviews with her or Eteri it sounds like:
She isn't a Tuktamysheva or a Lipnitskaya who are just naturally talented in specific areas, things don't come flying at her.
She says she had to work more than other girls to reach a certain level of physical strength to get the jumps she has now.

She's kinda defying the odds. Love that! Great example how far you can get with hard work and a young girl who has a very realistic view on herself :clap:
 

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Can anyone supply a link to Evgenia's Gala at Couchevel? I searched the YouTube channel that supplied the live feed but came up empty. Maybe because I'm on my phone :slink:

Pretty please. I haven't yet seen it.
 

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Can anyone supply a link to Evgenia's Gala at Couchevel? I searched the YouTube channel that supplied the live feed but came up empty. Maybe because I'm on my phone :slink:

Pretty please. I haven't yet seen it.
They only have full video of the gala at official channel and somebody said that it's only available on PC, not phone.
Here is reuploaded video of Zhenya's EX (link from her vk community) - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eloDO_k95Jo
 

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Oh..wow! Very interesting music. One of the differences this year for me is I have a better understanding of her personality and to me at least she seems to be having a lot of fun these days. I should probably say her and Serafima who seem near inseperable. Anyway it's good to see that fun come thru in her skating. She seems to have a fairly strong grasp of the music too. After her encore spin she takes a strong pose and uses her arm extremely effectively to show us this.

Thx for sharing!!
 

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I checked out her results table on wikipedia and thought it very strange that in 6 national competitions she placed from 12th-4th place, yet in her 6 international competitions she's gotten bronze twice and gold four times :think:

She was 8th at Senior Nats (Decembers 2011) being 12 years 1 month old, good result for so young skater.
At December 2013 she was 7th at Senior Nats, ahead her were only very high level skaters.

She has many medals of National Level competitions.
Final of Cup of Russia - twice 2nd as Junior, once 2nd as Senior.
Nationals Elder Age - 1st twice.
And so on.
 

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Well i would rather bombing nationals than international competitions. I have to admit last season i thought she was the least talented from the russian juniors on the circuit but seeing her last perofrmance was a bit "shocking" to me. i still prefer Serafima but if she continue improving she definitely contend. it seem she also grew this year.
 

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Medvedeva, Proklova, Sakhanovich, Sotskova are about same level.
 

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Questions for Russian speakers, if you could please answer. Since I can speak Russian ok (not great), I thought you had to say Evgenia's name like Yevgeniya? or even Yevgenya? What is the proper way to say her name? Thanks


I was looking for a fan page for Evgenia and couldn't find one. I have already posted a lot of this on another thread, but I thought this was the best place for it. Plus, a lot of it is new. This is my impression of her performances at Courchevel.


Evgenia is a wonderful skater with a natural charm that is heart-warming!! . Two emotionally compelling and technically impressive performances with gracious elegance, rhythmic step sequences and smooth transitions into unusual changes in the music. She also displayed innovative use of robotic movements that she humanized after laying her head on her shoulder and springing up in surprise, as if coming alive in a dream world where she has a new and daring body that can jive outside the limits of time. Her bent arms formed a goal post that pivoted up and down in tune to staccato steps that simulated mechanical motion. I love the way she centers her hand over her head when she jumps delightfully like a ballerina spinning in a wind-up music box. Wind-up box and dancing robot are the symbols that carry us away to a childlike world of escape tinged with a melancholy sense that we must dutifully return to obey.
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She skates with natural elegance and genuine expression, with beautifully symmetrical revolutions to her jumps and spins that provide a dynamic because of their rapid acceleration and whip saw motion. In addition to her wonderful lines and extensions, her exquisite positions and elegant motions are natural expressions of her soul that are synchronized beautifully to the music. She also has smooth motion and erect posture heading into and out of her jumps and doesn't hunch, with an ethereal, meditative style that draws the attention in slowly, captures it and doesn't let go, instead of flashy gestures packed in busily for a quick, diversionary show. Finally, she puts the viewer at ease because she wears her heart on her sleeve with her authentic cheerfulness. Her PCS scores are too low.
 

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Questions for Russian speakers, if you could please answer. Since I can speak Russian ok (not great), I thought you had to say Evgenia's name like Yevgeniya? or even Yevgenya? What is the proper way to say her name? Thanks
Pronounced like Evgenija.
 

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ohmigosh, the exhibition!!! One of my very favorite songs.

Like many others, last year I would've said she was one of my less favorite Russian juniors. She's moving up to the head of the pack. I like that she seems to take it slower and have longer stretch/extension than many of the other young Russians. And I'm one who loves the 'tanos. Bring 'em on, I say.

I really like all her programs (and costumes) this year.
 

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Evgenia's short interview: she promises to correct her wrong edges; she wants to show her level at Nationals - the only senior competition where she can participate.
She also can be at Russian Cup Events, because she is 14 (age eligible are skaters 14 years old and elder).
But does she need it?
She probably will be at JGPF, skaters qualified to JGPF are qualified to Senior Nationals.
She also can skate at Russian Cup Final (Senior), she did it at past season. And other Senior competitions in Russia are open for her.

She told that age limits don't allow her to skate at Senior Internationals, and because of this she can't qualify to Euro and Worlds, so her only task for Senior Nationals - to show her level.

Hmmm... She told about successful skating at JrWorlds. But no warranty that she will qualify to JrWorlds - at least four girls will pretend to three spots. So to qualify to JrWorlds at JrNats is also challenge for her.
 

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Loved watching her latest competition, she's a tremendous talent. Radionova, Lipnitskaya, Sotnikova, Proklova, watch out!!
 

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Loved watching her latest competition, she's a tremendous talent. Radionova, Lipnitskaya, Sotnikova, Proklova, watch out!!

Even though Evgenia got 5 points lower in her SP and 7 points lower in her LP than Safina, she has a higher percentage of likes on both her videos on youtube than Safina. In my opinion, Evgenia's Biellmann position is more flexible and her jumps look smoother with more erect posture on exit and less telegraphing or set up time. Evgenia may not have quite as much speed. I also find Evgenia to be more fluid, lyrical, genuine and elegant in an adolescent way. I think Safina is good, but Evgenia's performances are much more rewarding for me.
 

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Even though Evgenia got 5 points lower in her SP and 7 points lower in her LP than Safina, she has a higher percentage of likes on both her videos on youtube than Safina. In my opinion, Evgenia's Biellmann position is more flexible and her jumps look smoother with more erect posture on exit and less telegraphing or set up time. Evgenia may not have quite as much speed. I also find Evgenia to be more fluid, lyrical, genuine and elegant in an adolescent way. I think Safina is good, but Evgenia's performances me are much more rewarding for me.
Me think the same. I don't know why but I can't help feeling that Evgenia is more fresh and distinctive. While Serafima is great but the way they pack her this season is...:scowl:
 

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I enjoy both.
But one thing I'd like to compliment Evgenia on is choosing "age appropriate"(oh how I hate this word) music.
I think it suits her.
I don't want to criticize Serafima, but her LP made me a bit uneasy.
I loved Adelina's ...."womanly"... Carmen Program, she fit in since she was 17 then imo she sold it.
But to me personally Serafima's LP and especially her facial expressions were a bit too sexy for a 14 year old to me.
I'm usually never one who has a problem with these kind of programs, Ion the opposite, but with her I felt a bit uneasy for the first time.

Just wanted to say this to underline why they are completely different artistically to me.
 

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But to me personally Serafima's LP and especially her facial expressions were a bit too sexy for a 14 year old to me.

I watched her program again after reading this but I don't see what you mean. Can you explain? Nothing about the program struck me as being sexy.

On another note I enjoy watching both Evgenia and Serafima. I really really hope I stay as ignorant as I am right now about the technical aspects of figure skating because I know I wouldn't enjoy critiquing every jump or spin a skater does and marking them off as bad skaters. But we all enjoy it for different reasons so more power to the people who do that. I hope both Sima and Ev continue their success this season.
 

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strykeI don't really know how to explain it. ...
I guess it's just a personal thing, like last season many people were saying that Radionova's LP was a bit too mature while I just thought it was totally cute :)
Maybe it's cause she looks and moves in a very mature way while I know in my head that she's 14 and my mind can't cope with that ;D
 
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