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Yuzuru Hanyu: 2017-2018

If anything, I would think the new set of rules as whole will make all of his WR stand for longer than it would have (unless the judges go crazy with PCS and the factoring increase substantially).
Yuzu’s gonna have to work hard beating his own record especially in the free and hence the total score :biggrin:
I still laugh when I think about how he said to Brian he needs ten more points (for a total score WR) right after he got his H&L WR :laugh:

ETA: That is to say, i think the SoV and the new rules will become fuel for him to charge forward and challenge the scores... I somehow think that bigger scale of GOE = more for him to ‘play around with’ ... like I can imagine something like a meme of Yuzu saying “challenge accepted” haha
 
khtmyzr said:
If anything, I would think the new set of rules as whole will make all of his WR stand for longer than it would have (unless the judges go crazy with PCS and the factoring increase substantially).
Yuzu’s gonna have to work hard beating his own record especially in the free and hence the total score [emoji3]
I still laugh when I think about how he said to Brian he needs ten more points (for a total score WR) right after he got his H&L WR [emoji23]

ETA: That is to say, i think the SoV and the new rules will become fuel for him to charge forward and challenge the scores... I somehow think that bigger scale of GOE = more for him to ‘play around with’ ... like I can imagine something like a meme of Yuzu saying “challenge accepted” haha
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Yuzu will easily beat 330 if he goes clean. His new layout is much harder than 2015, and also if the GOE is expanded to a 10 point system guess who can get +5 consistently with 3A, 4T and 4S? Yuzuru Hanyu [emoji3]
 
bladesofwar said:
Yuzu will easily beat 330 if he goes clean. His new layout is much harder than 2015, and also if the GOE is expanded to a 10 point system guess who can get +5 consistently with 3A, 4T and 4S? Yuzuru Hanyu [emoji3]
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It’s true he can get really high scores still with his quality but I was thinking more about the fact that one jump is taken out from the free and that the spins and step sequence scores are lower now (haven’t looked at the scores for the latter two but this is what I understood from reading people’s comment here). Haven’t done the math though :)
 
khtmyzr said:
It’s true he can get really high scores still with his quality but I was thinking more about the fact that one jump is taken out from the free and that the spins and step sequence scores are lower now (haven’t looked at the scores for the latter two but this is what I understood from reading people’s comment here). Haven’t done the math though :)
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Aren't there the 10 point GOE system for spins and Steps too? This will also benefit yuzu because he is definitely the best spinner in terms of speed and flexibility variation and also is at the top in terms of artistry, so the GOE system will benefit him even moreso than jumping beans.. I see a positive side to this new IJS but alot of yuzu fans on twitter seem to be upset that 4A BV is quite low.
 
Speaking of Yuzu’s Olympic performance, here a Thai commentary of Seimei... I don’t think I’ve seen it being shared much.

https://youtu.be/EeljnT3emQs

They kind of talk a lot and is a teeny bit annoying but they didnt say anything bad. Just giving out facts about Yuzuru for people who have no clue which is appropriate and understandable. The man seemed to be regular sports commentator who has no clue about fs while the lady seems like she might be a skater herself but new to commentating.

What I liked:
- the man was teasing the lady in the beginning saying “this one next to me wants to squeal/scream but she’s trying hard to hold it in” - so apparently she’s a yuzu fan haha
- the talks were relevant to yuzu - they mentioned his injury (and applauded him and medical team), his previous OGM, Worlds gold, GPF golds, and even WTT
- they referred to the sp scores several times (they did this for other skaters as well) so I appreciate how this will prevent a clueless audience from judging the whole competition on the free alone.
- the lady described yuzu’s style as “delicate yet fierce”
- they pointed out the technical score and how Yuzu’s score is similar to the leader (Boyang) but then also mention existence of PCS
- not in this video but for Javi’s she also noted how he popped the quad and points out how he lost a lot of points there... i think that prevents the confusion as to why his score wasnt higher than it was when he had a clean performance
 
khtmyzr said:
Speaking of Yuzu’s Olympic performance, here a Thai commentary of Seimei... I don’t think I’ve seen it being shared much.

https://youtu.be/EeljnT3emQs

They kind of talk a lot and is a teeny bit annoying but they didnt say anything bad. Just giving out facts about Yuzuru for people who have no clue which is appropriate and understandable. The man seemed to be regular sports commentator who has no clue about fs while the lady seems like she might be a skater herself but new to commentating.

What I liked:
- the man was teasing the lady in the beginning saying “this one next to me wants to squeal/scream but she’s trying hard to hold it in” - so apparently she’s a yuzu fan haha
- the talks were relevant to yuzu - they mentioned his injury (and applauded him and medical team), his previous OGM, Worlds gold, GPF golds, and even WTT
- they referred to the sp scores several times (they did this for other skaters as well) so I appreciate how this will prevent a clueless audience from judging the whole competition on the free alone.
- the lady described yuzu’s style as “delicate yet fierce”
- they pointed out the technical score and how Yuzu’s score is similar to the leader (Boyang) but then also mention existence of PCS
- not in this video but for Javi’s she also noted how he popped the quad and points out how he lost a lot of points there... i think that prevents the confusion as to why his score wasnt higher than it was when he had a clean performance
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Thanks for sharing!
 
bladesofwar said:
Aren't there the 10 point GOE system for spins and Steps too? This will also benefit yuzu because he is definitely the best spinner in terms of speed and flexibility variation and also is at the top in terms of artistry, so the GOE system will benefit him even moreso than jumping beans.. I see a positive side to this new IJS but alot of yuzu fans on twitter seem to be upset that 4A BV is quite low.
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To be honest, I haven’t looked much at the details of the scoring.:p
Just to be clear, I don’t doubt that he has the ability to get the highest scores possible under the new system. Like you, I also think that the competitiveness of his scores against this competitors won’t be negatively affected by the change :)
I’m was simply unsure of how much the increased GOE scale would be able to offset the score deficit resulting from one removed jumping pass as I have not done the math...
But hey, I just looked at the link Interspectator posted and tried taking out the 3F from the calculated TES under the new system (130.89-7.19) which resulted in 123.70, just 2.42 points less than 126.12. So I guess with potential upgraded layout and possible increase in PCS factoring, it shouldn’t be as hard as I initially thought :)
 
khtmyzr said:
To be honest, I haven’t looked much at the details of the scoring.:p
Just to be clear, I don’t doubt that he has the ability to get the highest scores possible under the new system. Like you, I also think that the competitiveness of his scores against this competitors won’t be negatively affected by the change :)
I’m was simply unsure of how much the increased GOE scale would be able to offset the score deficit resulting from one removed jumping pass as I have not done the math...
But hey, I just looked at the link Interspectator posted and tried taking out the 3F from the calculated TES under the new system (130.89-7.19) which resulted in 123.70, just 2.42 points less than 126.12. So I guess with potential upgraded layout and possible increase in PCS factoring, it shouldn’t be as hard as I initially thought :)
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Can you imagine what monstrous score Yuzu can get under the new score board with this layout?

4T - 3T
4S
3F
4 Lo
4 Lz
3A - 2T
3A-1Lo-3S

Does anyone have a calculator? [emoji23]

He is allowed to jump the same type of triple more than once right? It is only the quad jumps that aren't supposed to be repeated am I right?
 
bladesofwar said:
Can you imagine what monstrous score Yuzu can get under the new score board with this layout?

4T - 3T
4S
3F
4 Lo
4 Lz
3A - 2T
3A-1Lo-3S

Does anyone have a calculator? [emoji23]

He is allowed to jump the same type of triple more than once right? It is only the quad jumps that aren't supposed to be repeated am I right?
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Haha I’m not even going to try to calculate 😂

I think the one jump each only applies to the quads... it’s still just a proposal though, right?

One thing that is important to note on the scores is that we still dont know if there would be any change to the 10% bonus in the second half... or has it been decided and I’m not aware?
 
khtmyzr said:
Haha I’m not even going to try to calculate

I think the one jump each only applies to the quads... it’s still just a proposal though, right?

One thing that is important to note on the scores is that we still dont know if there would be any change to the 10% bonus in the second half... or has it been decided and I’m not aware?
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It will be decided by the ISU congress in June. The proposal is to count only 3 jumps in the second half bonus. You can do more, but only 3 will be counted for the bonus.
 
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