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Sasha Cohen behaviour in past, is it true?

I remember the time when it was forbidden for any skater to step to the ice before the previous skater received her marks, applause or flowers. In my opinion, this courtesy should be reinstated and embraced by all skaters.

Back in this day, I believe a skater could lose marks for such (considered) unsportmanship behavior.

Why was it that skaters in that time, performed really good performances without the preliminary 20 seconds on ice as a warm-up? Why in the past couple of years, do skaters think that that stomping on to the ice before the previous skater has received their rewards benifits them? Have such skater' s forgotten what the ice feels like while waiting ., ex 30 minutes?

As soon as the music stops, some charge out of the gate as though they were a raging bovine heading for the rodeo. Simply RUDE.
Very nice post, Orchid. I would suggest that they give the next skater a 1 minute of warm up time as soon as he/she steps on the ice. If it is before the previous skater has left, the timing should begin anyway. When the referee, announces times up, the skater should proceed to the start spot in the arena. If the skater is still on the ice before the last skater has left, and the ref has announced the 1 minute grace is up the next skater must go to the start spot or any time after that should be counted against the regular program.

Joe
 
It cuts both ways. (Kurt browning was a master at this, by the way). Yes, you can charge onto the ice and try to steal the applause from the previous skater.

But you can also linger after your program is done, take a few extra bows, pick up your teddy bears, greet a few fans and generally get in the way of the next person's warm-up as much as possible.

Kurt once did this to Todd Eldredge and it flustered Todd so much that he didn't try the quad he had planned. Todd was really mad for a long time, but I guess they made up when they toured together in SOI.
 
I think it is an awful commercial. She has a flat, monotone voice and poor enunciation. And she wants to become an actress?
Yeah, but the point is -- the commercial was aired on Oprah. That's big time, no? (I mean, it's not like it was merely on Regis and Kelly.)
 
Yeah, but the point is -- the commercial was aired on Oprah. That's big time, no? (I mean, it's not like it was merely on Regis and Kelly.)

:laugh: :clap:
I had RD pegged for a fan of Opra;)

I believe I saw Kimmie's Subway during lasts Sundays Football game.:clap:
 
This is the same thing... skating is a sport... the best skaters have the most medals....

still doesn't make them the better skater... yeah on any given day they should be able to nail down a program and do all the tricks and then some, BUT if they are just a nervous wreck that doesn't negate how good their skills are...

it's all about head games...
 
I think the arena management wants the skaters to take the ice for the warmup as soon as the performing skater has left the ice and is in the KnC. Especially now with CoP and all those numbers to be input, there can be quite a dead space between the time the skater bows and leaves the ice and all the marks are received in the KnC.

If the next skater had to wait until all the marks have finished being displayed and the last skater has left the KnC, the audience is sitting looking at nothing for at least 3 minutes, sometimes as much as 4-5 minutes, if some of the judges are slow.

At least the paid audience is seeing someone skating during this 'dead' time.
 
I think the arena management wants the skaters to take the ice for the warmup as soon as the performing skater has left the ice and is in the KnC. Especially now with CoP and all those numbers to be input, there can be quite a dead space between the time the skater bows and leaves the ice and all the marks are received in the KnC.

If the next skater had to wait until all the marks have finished being displayed and the last skater has left the KnC, the audience is sitting looking at nothing for at least 3 minutes, sometimes as much as 4-5 minutes, if some of the judges are slow.

At least the paid audience is seeing someone skating during this 'dead' time.

Thank you Joesitz f Sor your comments on my post.

Chuckm, you post good points. I would embrace this theory if all skating events were live to TV broadcast. Sadly, because they are not, the rush to the ice leaves no room for the audience to discuss, revel in, criticize, or simply enjoy the skater and the emotion with that skater as the scores are posted.

The taped events which give us clip of the next skater wriggling about while the scores of the first skater have not yet been displayed, supports the thought that that second skater is simply RUDE. Most skating viewers, I think, have never attended a live event to understand all which happens between performers.

For those who dislike the 3-5 minute wait between skaters as an audience participant, that's what binocular's are for! Check out the crowd, look into the skyboxes. Say HI to your neighbor, make new friends, watch the Zamboni, toss out all the junk food boxes which have been stuffed under your seat, stand in line for the Loo.

Quote: Mathman: It cuts both ways. (Kurt browning was a master at this, by the way). Yes, you can charge onto the ice and try to steal the applause from the previous skater.

Yes, I agree, however, Kurt was and is a Master of the ice and Ms Cohen always hoped to be. Sasha, as a very young skater displayed Diva behaviour which she has yet to earn.

One more note to Mathman's quote above, I commend the skating audiences throughout the world who uniformly refrain from applauding ANY skater who pops onto the ice before his/her name is called. So what's the point ???
 
still doesn't make them the better skater... yeah on any given day they should be able to nail down a program and do all the tricks and then some, BUT if they are just a nervous wreck that doesn't negate how good their skills are...

it's all about head games...

Right & I agree... but the nerves piece seperates the girls from the ladies... and is the difference between gold & bronze...

Its kinda like the who's the best quarterback in the nfl arguement: Tom Brady or Peyton Manning? Who can win the big game? Tom Brady - therefore he's the best.

All i'm saying is that if we want skating to be taken seriously as a sport, then sports rules need to apply...
 
Right & I agree... but the nerves piece seperates the girls from the ladies... and is the difference between gold & bronze...

Its kinda like the who's the best quarterback in the nfl arguement: Tom Brady or Peyton Manning? Who can win the big game? Tom Brady - therefore he's the best.

All i'm saying is that if we want skating to be taken seriously as a sport, then sports rules need to apply...

Ok but then are the only skaters of any real merit the ones with Olympic gold?

I wouldn't say so but many sport fans think that is the be all and end all.

Ant
 
Ok but then are the only skaters of any real merit the ones with Olympic gold?

I wouldn't say so but many sport fans think that is the be all and end all.

Ant

This I do struggle with... mainly because the three best skaters don't have olympic gold: Michelle, Irina, and Kurt. Heck, its hard for me to even remember most days that Irina only has two world titles... But on the other hand, the Olympics could be viewed as a fluke w/ the world titles trumping... like in Tennis... but again, that could be that my three favs don't have the OGM (my husband says its actually me & that I'm the kiss of death as a fan... ala Ohio State...)

But I stand by my opinion that if you want to be great & considered the best, then you need to win medals - just like you need to win superbowls.
 
To me, the super bowl/Olympic gold medal thing is mitigated by the fact that it is automatic, regardless of whether anyone plays well or not. There will be a Super Bowl XLI winner in a couple of weeks. And then, willy-nilly, there will be a winner of Super Bowl XLII. And then Super Bowl XLIII.

We had Oksana in 1994, Tara in 1998, Sarah in 2002, Shizuka in 2006, someone new in 2010, someone else in 2014.

To be remembered as great champion, I think you have to do something special that distinguishes you from the crowd.
 
I must say there's something in that statement, though. I find her rather painful to listen to...no bash intended :banging:
 
I've noticed something. I post/lurk at alot of message boards that's aren't about skating; this is the only skating board I visit; when it comes to Sasha alot of people say there is "just something" about her they don't like, and when I inquire, they say she seems like a brat/snob, more or less.

I may do a survey!
 
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Sasha Chohen behavior

I haven't read past posts so, bear with me. I think many people are put off because she doesn't seem to show respect or common courtesy to other skaters. Some people may say Miss Cohen is being candid. Sasha didn't come from a poor background like Nancy Kerrigan or Peggy Fleming. International judges seem to be very lenient with her.

One of the characters in the book/movie, "Charlie and the Chocolate Factory", Veruca Salt, reminded me of Sasha Cohen. I know, that doesn't make sense, Olympic talent (which SC has in abundance) can't be bought at any price.

The above factors can cause resentment.
 
i think that a lot of the probles with skatersand said "behaviors" is that the skaters don't act the way some fans think they SHOULD act. maybe it's not that the skater is acting bad, but thefan puts their own expectation onto these athletes. they don't all fit into the same pretty little box. :)
 
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