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Evgenia Medvedeva
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Thank you. I like yours too. It’s meme quality: Zhenya’s hair is so fluffy even she herself has to constantly touch it.
Choosing an avatar with Zhenya is pretty difficult, though. You go through pictures of her and it‘s like: Oh she‘s beautiful on that one... and that‘s a cute pic too... and here again... and after 100 pics you‘re like WHY DOES SHE HAVE TO LOOK GOOD ON EVERY SINGLE ONE DAMNIT
Haha I felt the struggle as well yesterday when I decided to change mine
I knew that I wanted a picture of her whilst performing Tosca (either in practice or competition) but even though I already singled out the certain "theme", it was so difficult because there are so many beautiful Tosca Pictures
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I wonder if it’s because of the work on the Lutz. Generally, trying to correct one leads to issues with the other. Then again, it could just be reworking timing for the toe jumps overall.
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I feel it's likely to be part mental block (maybe just getting too tense and hesitating or something) and part to do with timing.
Zhenya does have toe hammer which lengthens the preparation for toe jumps, but as I understand her main obstacle with the Lutz is she needs to pick and jump sooner before her edge can switch. She's also prerotating less and making an effort to not do the full-blade takeoff she used to have. So basically with these changes her muscle memory just hasn't settled down yet. And I kind of think that as she continues to work on her lutz it might be a bit before she can stop having difficulty with this.
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Her 3T was very borderline already last season. Now it scares me most of the time. I hope Brian and her actively working on this because so far the 3F-3T doesn‘t seem to work out for her in competition and even in practice this combo was one of the only ones she fell on and it regularly looks tight.
Something else:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Br5Di58BcMB/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=161tsdpkyzfan
Did you know Zhenya originally had this dress for her iconic Worlds winning W.E program before her real one was made? She‘s beautiful in everything but this dress is giving everyone a hard job, even Zhenya.
Another little Zhenya:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Br2jRNGBQjJ/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=itdpukw4woew
Because we were talking about the 3T in combination: Here her 3F landing was very tight but she got the 3T in out of sheer grit and also because her body was light and she could easily pull herself in the air, using her upper body. She can‘t do that now. That‘s, in my opinion, why those horrible << 3T on combos (2A-3T FS RusNats and 3F-3T in France) excisted. She tried to use the old technique and didn’t use enough power from the legs but rather tried to rely on pure rotiational speed. It didn‘t work and thus she crash landed. I hope they‘re trying to fix this issue and given more time when she has had more time to strengthen the muscles in her legs, her 3T combos should look better.
Something else:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Br5Di58BcMB/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=161tsdpkyzfan
Did you know Zhenya originally had this dress for her iconic Worlds winning W.E program before her real one was made? She‘s beautiful in everything but this dress is giving everyone a hard job, even Zhenya.
Another little Zhenya:
https://www.instagram.com/p/Br2jRNGBQjJ/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=itdpukw4woew
Because we were talking about the 3T in combination: Here her 3F landing was very tight but she got the 3T in out of sheer grit and also because her body was light and she could easily pull herself in the air, using her upper body. She can‘t do that now. That‘s, in my opinion, why those horrible << 3T on combos (2A-3T FS RusNats and 3F-3T in France) excisted. She tried to use the old technique and didn’t use enough power from the legs but rather tried to rely on pure rotiational speed. It didn‘t work and thus she crash landed. I hope they‘re trying to fix this issue and given more time when she has had more time to strengthen the muscles in her legs, her 3T combos should look better.
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With the Lutz, she needs to pick before she’s changed over to the inside edge, yes. As for everything else: that’s what I meant by reworking the timing for the toe jumps overall. Especially with regard to her arms — in prior seasons, her arm position was set long before she began picking, and she used that to whip herself airborne into the jump. Now that she’s less reliant on her upper body to initiate rotation, the timing for the jumps has totally changed.
According to TSL, she had lost pretty much all of her jumps after the Olympics, so rather than being able to sort of resume where she left off with Orser, she needed to relearn how to jump from the ground up — not just refine or improve her technique. I think it’ll take time, but I’m optimistic. Her toe jumps look much better than they have in past seasons.
I think the use of the Tano variation encouraged her to rely on her upper body to begin rotation and muscle the jumps, especially the 3T. The arm was never fully straight (what Kurt Browning called “the eggbeater”), but more importantly, by setting her arms before picking for the jumps, she was able to throw one arm aloft and use it to swing into rotation.
Also, whoever did her free skate dress for Russian nationals needs to do all of her dresses from here on out. One problem with Medvedeva’s old costumes was that the skirt would fly up, which enhanced the jump issues — because the body line was broken by the skirt no longer covering her lower body, it accentuated her tipped-over posture, the height of the free leg as she went to pick, etc.
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BrtJx02ncji/ seems it was still Ladu who made the RusNats free skate dress. I wasn't impressed before, but this dress was really good.
That's pretty interesting, I didn't really notice before :think: I read an old interview with Olga Ryabenko who made all of Zhenya's dresses while she was with Eteri, she said that the skirts of many of her dresses were purposefully longer than normal to help balance out how thin her legs were. Maybe as Zhenya is no longer so stick-thin this isn't a concern anymore.
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I think the colour of the 2016-17 FS dress highlights the issue. You have the gradation of colour on the skirt and then the grey of the body. So when the skirt flipped up, there was a pink ring breaking up the body line. The length isn’t so much my issue as how the fabric of her prior dresses tended to be “loose” and easily fly up, as I just thought it didn’t do her any favours in terms of her lines, as the skirts often had detailing that made the breaking of the body line much more noticeable than if the entire costume was black, for example. The tango dress struck the right balance of functional and mature for me. But I’m also a “less is more” kind of person. [emoji1]
WTT FS 2017. You can see the skirt fly up as she gains speed for the first jump and again when she jumps. It leaves a pink ring around her torso and highlights the length of her limbs (not in a positive way, at least to me), posture, etc. I know most posters love Olga’s dresses, but I didn’t always find them the most flattering. Gorgeous when Medvedeva was still, but not the best on the ice due to the lightness of the fabric (which caused the skirts to fly upward and outward).
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This might be a bit subjective. I've loved all of the dresses she had before, and I love these last 2 as well. One thing that almost no one is able to reproduce (or so it seems) is the detailing that Olga Ryabenko does.
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All of this! :2thumbs:
Evgenia is in a bit of a situation right now where the whole jump is changing. When she was little and training different methods the pre rotation wasn’t as obvious because little people rotate faster, the lack of height, hammer toe and extra blade assistance also wasn’t obvious, to add to that flinging herself into the air with mainly her upper body wasn’t a problem, because to be quite blunt she is and was so tiny. Growth has highlighted all of that and so our girl got callled for cheating her jumps.
Not just that, but with the changes of +5/-5 it makes so much sense for her to get those jumps nailed so they’re big, well rotated and supported by solid technique. I would say considering she needs to change her edge jumps less, the toes jumps would be smartly sacrificed in that combo for the sake of consistency. I wouldn’t be surprised if it got worse with the toe jumps until it gets better.
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Maxim Kovtun about Zhenya
https://www.instagram.com/p/BsAbN2LBB0o/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=13bcp0cztu3m0
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Regarding Zhenya's jumps, I still wonder what is happening to her flip as well, since it was her best jump.
Apart from that, her lutz is already better. I feel that her flutz is mainly because of timing. She will be on an outside edge - and when it's time to jump, she will quickly switch to an inside edge. So I don't think the problem is that big in my opinion, but it's going to be hard to fix, since old habits die hard. She doesn't use the full blade anymore tho, which is good, and her edge is more "flat" than "inside" so it's positive.
Her axel is definitely better now. It was one of her most muscled jumps before, and now, it looks really nice. I attended the practices at IDF and her combo 2A3Lo was absolutely gorgeous.
As said already, her toe is not that great. It's mainly due to the fact that I feel she used her upper body a lot while doing it, and it's not going to work anymore. At least, I've the impression she doesn't prerotate as much.
Her salchow and her loop are gorgeous. The two jumps together are especially "wow". She has a lot of distance on her salchow, that's why I think her wish of having a quad salchow one day is possible. She said she wanted to learn a triple axel - here, I'm not really optimistic, since her 2A is not that big to begin with. But learning a quad salchow is definitely something possible in my opinion. She already has a good distance, so I think she will have to work maybe on her height or the power of her legs ? The other way is working on rotation speed, but I don't want her to do that since generally, most of the times, it implies losing weight.
Concerning her overall skating, except for the spins (which is understandable since she had a spine fracture), she improved her skating skills and her flow in and out of her jumps. She is also faster on the ice, which is nice. She has, however, less transitions than before so maybe that's why.
For the costumes, I really really like the ones she wore at Russian Nationals. I didn't like her previous SP dress (long and short version) because I just didn't see how it was related to the song. The first one (which she wore at ACI) was nice tho, and she looked super pretty with her bangs.
I didn't like the first and second free program dress. The first one was too simple for me, and the second one a bit unflattering because I had the impression it was too tight.
The costumes she wore at Russian Nationals however, were absolutely gorgeous. The TOSCA dress is a thing a beauty, and the black dress for the FS is elegant, stylish, classy and it suits her a lot.
I liked her previous costumes as well, especially AK (black and red version, but I've to admit the black one was my favourite...it's so pretty), W.E and Melodies of the White Night. Olga did a really great job over the years.
Apart from that, her lutz is already better. I feel that her flutz is mainly because of timing. She will be on an outside edge - and when it's time to jump, she will quickly switch to an inside edge. So I don't think the problem is that big in my opinion, but it's going to be hard to fix, since old habits die hard. She doesn't use the full blade anymore tho, which is good, and her edge is more "flat" than "inside" so it's positive.
Her axel is definitely better now. It was one of her most muscled jumps before, and now, it looks really nice. I attended the practices at IDF and her combo 2A3Lo was absolutely gorgeous.
As said already, her toe is not that great. It's mainly due to the fact that I feel she used her upper body a lot while doing it, and it's not going to work anymore. At least, I've the impression she doesn't prerotate as much.
Her salchow and her loop are gorgeous. The two jumps together are especially "wow". She has a lot of distance on her salchow, that's why I think her wish of having a quad salchow one day is possible. She said she wanted to learn a triple axel - here, I'm not really optimistic, since her 2A is not that big to begin with. But learning a quad salchow is definitely something possible in my opinion. She already has a good distance, so I think she will have to work maybe on her height or the power of her legs ? The other way is working on rotation speed, but I don't want her to do that since generally, most of the times, it implies losing weight.
Concerning her overall skating, except for the spins (which is understandable since she had a spine fracture), she improved her skating skills and her flow in and out of her jumps. She is also faster on the ice, which is nice. She has, however, less transitions than before so maybe that's why.
For the costumes, I really really like the ones she wore at Russian Nationals. I didn't like her previous SP dress (long and short version) because I just didn't see how it was related to the song. The first one (which she wore at ACI) was nice tho, and she looked super pretty with her bangs.
I didn't like the first and second free program dress. The first one was too simple for me, and the second one a bit unflattering because I had the impression it was too tight.
The costumes she wore at Russian Nationals however, were absolutely gorgeous. The TOSCA dress is a thing a beauty, and the black dress for the FS is elegant, stylish, classy and it suits her a lot.
I liked her previous costumes as well, especially AK (black and red version, but I've to admit the black one was my favourite...it's so pretty), W.E and Melodies of the White Night. Olga did a really great job over the years.
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https://www.instagram.com/e.m.supporter/p/BrrshMEBnG0/?utm_source=ig_share_sheet&igshid=r5a0sg6r5dkw
She looks like a ballerina on ice there.
What were your favorite dresses of Zhenya?
Mine were her Leftovers dress, her Olympic SP dress and River Flows in You light blue dress.
She looks like a ballerina on ice there.
What were your favorite dresses of Zhenya?
Mine were her Leftovers dress, her Olympic SP dress and River Flows in You light blue dress.
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