you know what, forget it, some people will never learn.
I’m trying to find what you’ve said recently, what is it you want to say?
you know what, forget it, some people will never learn.
This was a cringy, horrendous interview with more platitudes than critical analysis. I get that Ted is not an independent journalist, and invariably any interview he does will veer towards this, but you can still be polite and have a darn thinking cap on.
For all the beauty in the skating of a lot of Eteri's skaters, I am not willing to overlook the fact that Trusova and Scherbakova look as though their pelvises will shatter the moment they fall from the many quad attempts that do not go well. Or the fact that Yulia sought urgent help for an eating disorder from being mired in a culture of unhealthy body image standards and therefore dangerous eating habits. Or the clear psychological abuse hurled at Alina Zagitova during a documentary, where the poor girl had tried her heart out but failed to impress her coaches.
We should not be so hungry for success so as to jeopardize the bodies and minds of these young girls. I am going to be attacked for this post, but the truth is the truth, no matter how successful one is perceived to be.
Unlike Ted...TSL is focused on promoting their self interest. Ted is focused on bringing respect and honor to the sport and it’s athletes. Not himself. He respects the skaters and wants the focus to be on them and their performances. TSL is focused on using the athletes and their coaches to bring attention onto themselves by exploiting anything they can. I wish I could say I’m even a little surprised they would go after Ted of all people.
I’m always surprised when people give them attention.
What’s your point? Neither opera glorifies prostitution or sex or money; there’s no aria that’s the equivalent of Hey Big Spender; the whole “tragedy” for each character is that she is pure and noble but is forced to sell herself to survive.
Hey Big Spender has lyrics that paint a very specific picture rife with sexual connotation. If you’re going to use it, you can’t just make up an alternate story - say, that it’s about a little girl skipping rope - or say it’s okay bc most people won’t understand the English. The fact that Trusova - who at 13 looked like she was 10 - didn’t appear to have a clue what the song was about, almost makes it worse.
The interview was a powderpuff interview and Ted didn't even manage to get all the facts right! Eteri was not pushed AT ALL on anything and the "your kids don't seem to get injured" line was so laughably wrong that even Eteri was shook.
You can relax with your hyperbolic opinion, thanks. Coaches and athletes wouldn't keep going on there if they didn't think it was worth their time, and lots of what they say ends up being the case. Just because you don't like their take on things, doesn't give you the right to lie.
It was also discussed in this thread few pages back. We provided video links to the original Big Spender music video, the song with lyrics, etc.OMG, thank you! I was just kicked out of the Russian ladies thread for saying basically the same thing (not as eloquently).
I wish Eteri were asked about it in the interview. The fans may not know English, but she does. She knew what's the song was about.
It was also discussed in this thread few pages back. We provided video links to the original Big Spender music video, the song with lyrics, etc.
I added that even my chinese educated co workers understood the meaning, lol. Just google translate "Let me show you a good time"will do the trick.
As for the hypocrisy accusation(at the Russian ladies thread) concerning EnSoo lim's skating to suggestive/sensual songs, the British Eurosport uncles very clearly disapprove of her skating to Chicago this season.
But well, I didnt want to spoil my Christmas mood by debating that with them during this time
I never really took Sasha’s interpretation as being suggestive in the least. Kids can flirt a little with each other and that’s alright. Even normal. Lord knows they all watch videos like Ariana Grande’s Side to Side but I wouldn’t even go as far as to call Sasha’s Program flirty. It seemed very innocent to my eyes even if it’s true they could have found a safer song choice. I don’t know... I can understand people having reservation and even objection for the choice of song but the interpretation and program itself seem to go in a much more tame direction than the musical. I found it rather harmless myself. YMMV
I would let my kids train with eteri, if you know what you're getting into there is no issue and it's clear that all her skaters know as well.
Unlike Ted...TSL is focused on promoting their self interest. Ted is focused on bringing respect and honor to the sport and it’s athletes. Not himself. He respects the skaters and wants the focus to be on them and their performances. TSL is focused on using the athletes and their coaches to bring attention onto themselves by exploiting anything they can. I wish I could say I’m even a little surprised they would go after Ted of all people.
I’m always surprised when people give them attention.
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I mean, I could say, the ISU is well aware that Eteri has, shall we say, a problematic reputation among a significant number of skating fans and wanted to present her in as sympathetic a light as possible.
In that light, the ISU is certainly promoting their own self interest.
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I mean, I could say, the ISU is well aware that Eteri has, shall we say, a problematic reputation among a significant number of skating fans and wanted to present her in as sympathetic a light as possible.
In that light, the ISU is certainly promoting their own self interest.
I think on the whole Eteri is respected and seen as a positive figure from the perspective of the ISU. They will and always should promote their self interest in the same way TSL should. It is what it is. I just happen to find the ISU as a positive outlet that promotes the sport and helps facilitate growth of skating in general. We may disagree here but I wouldn’t say TSL is helping in that way. Maybe it’s just better to say that of the two I only think one offers a particularly appealing form of inspiration
People are free to support TSL. People are free to think the ISU is equally as cruel. I just happen to think only one of the two statements hold much water. ymmv
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I mean, I could say, the ISU is well aware that Eteri has, shall we say, a problematic reputation among a significant number of skating fans and wanted to present her in as sympathetic a light as possible.
In that light, the ISU is certainly promoting their own self interest.
I'm suprised..do you really think it's important what figure skating fans are thinking? Those fs fans who are on Twitter or on any FS forums? From which country? What they know? Where do they get the informations? Have they all informations about the cases? Do they know and consider cultural differences? etc...
You are kidding me..There are FS fans who are biased their favorites can do anything but they hate the others.. many of them judge too early and they share the false informations and opinions so quickly especially on Twitter..
Yes, fans are important. They buy f/s production. Skates, ice time, coach time, send their kids to skating school.
Regarding the Tutberidze school they are not empty, quite a lot of parents want their kids to be checked.
I'm suprised..do you really think it's important what figure skating fans are thinking? Those fs fans who are on Twitter or on any FS forums? From which country? What they know? Where do they get the informations? Have they all informations about the cases? Do they know and consider cultural differences? etc...
You are kidding me..There are FS fans who are biased their favorites can do anything but they hate the others.. many of them judge too early and they share the false informations and opinions so quickly especially on Twitter..