Should We Give Weir and Sandhu One More Chance?

[Joesitz (RIP)]

We all know the promise they both brought to the skating world and skating fans, but it seems there isn't much new technical since then and programs are erratic.

For me, I'm at the point where I am not looking forward to either of them for setting the blaze of glory. I'm just indifferent about them.

Joe

 

[krenseby]

We all know the promise they both brought to the skating world and skating fans, but it seems there isn't much new technical since then and programs are erratic.

For me, I'm at the point where I am not looking forward to either of them for setting the blaze of glory. I'm just indifferent about them.

Joe

Not sure about Sandu, but I think Weir has to show some commitment to win the support of the fans. Right now, he really doesn't seem like he in mental or physical shape to be a serious competitor. I do wish him all the best but I won't put any hopes in him until I see some signs of serious improvement.

 

[Hsuhs]

Oh I don't know about you, to me Johnny is the only reason I sit through mens

I'm afraid, I'm not entitled to give chances to different skaters, I hope though Johnny will be back - strong and beautiful - next season

 

[psycho]

I am sure they are both on pins and needles in anticipation of your majesty's decision on this issue.

What a ridiculous premise...

 

[krenseby]

I am sure they are both on pins and needles in anticipation of your majesty's decision on this issue.

What a ridiculous premise...

Well the individual decisions of forum matters don't matter much in and of themselves, but the collective offering of support or its withdrawal of the fan community does have some effect on the skating world.

I mean, don't you think that the skating audience's respect for Michelle Kwan had some positive ramifications for her career.. Even when she missed the gold at the Olympics, she still got lots of attention and media deals/endorsements because she was so popular with fans.

 

[Tonichelle]

Sandhu has never inspired me... I've always been indifferent

and as much as I can't stand Johnny Weir's fluff pieces of last season, I want him to do well.. I'm giving him another chance...

 

[Zanzibar]

I think anyone who doesn't give Johnny another chance will look kind of silly when he regains his national title next January in St. Paul.

 

[Kasey]

Everyone has the right to offer or deny "one more chance" all they want. For me, my favorite skater is not at all known for consistancy, and I will remain a fan forever. Sandhu and Weir both still offer programs that interest me, and their skating skills are still enough to keep me watching and hoping. I don't care if neither wins a Worlds medal, I will continue to watch for as long as they both continue to give us the show! And, I'm on the Zanzibar train for Johnny's next national title!

 

[Mafke]

We all know the promise they both brought to the skating world and skating fans, but it seems there isn't much new technical since then and programs are erratic.

For me, I'm at the point where I am not looking forward to either of them for setting the blaze of glory. I'm just indifferent about them.

Paul Wylie
Shizuka Arakawa
Miki Ando

 

[Joesitz (RIP)]

Paul Wylie
Shizuka Arakawa
Miki Ando

Until that happens.....we'll wait to see if Weir's skating goes beyond Otonal.

The skaters you listed had their moement of glory when all looked lost but only Arakawa was capable of holding on to it to develop further. I believe she is the exception to the rule. Paul got into exhibitions which to me did not vary much in presentation. Yes, he became more consistent but what variety did he bring to the exhibitions? For me, seeing one of Paul's best skates, I have seen them all. If you look at Miki's exhibition in Tokyo, it is not a wow performance. Miki is not a consistent skater.

One could go on about Nikidinov and Savoie and so many more. They were fine but limited. They all had that one lucky skate but nothing further.

Sandhu and Weir for me are waiting to be 'have beens' unless they get that once in a lifetime gold medal, and lately, we welcome a podium finish.

Joe

 

[ArwenIcePrincess]

I used to be a big Johnny fan, but I admit I have been getting rather impatient lately... same with Sandhu, but what he brings is so unique and cool that I hope he continues, regardless of how he does- I just want to watch him skate.

 

[Jaana]

I think anyone who doesn't give Johnny another chance will look kind of silly when he regains his national title next January in St. Paul.

Well, I could not care less whether Weir wins the US Nationals or not... But I will feel really amused if he (or Lysacek) is skating the best freeskate of the season there. It is Weir´s Worlds achievements (or lack of them) that interest me as I´m estimating him as a competitor and skater, and I have a feeling that he has lost his opportunities. Unless of course if he will really change a lot of matters and especially his attitude.

About Sandhu I´m kind of wondering whether he will manage to make the World team next season. I would expect Weir, Lysacek and probably Abbott to make the US Worlds team.

I will of course continue to be a skating fan of Weir and Sandhu, but I´m not any more expecting achievements of importance from them. And there are several other skaters that I like even more. With Weir and Sandhu I have kind of lost the respect, because they could have been successful at Worlds, but blew it from one or another reason. There are lots of skaters that I like, who did not have those opportunities.

 

[Bridget]

I remember one Sandhu performance that totally blew me away-I can't even recall when it was, but it was several years ago. But that's it. I looked forward to seeing him again after that one great performance, and I was dissappointed ever sense. It's purely personal preference, but his "off kilter" music and weird (to me) programs just leave me very cold emotionally.

Then, Johnny came on the scene. I adore him...I hope he does well, but it does seem to be a motivation factor with him. Of course, the skaters I love don't always win, and my affection isn't dependent on their getting medals. Alissa is someone I could watch over almost any other female skater, falling or not! She's just beautiful. I'll give Johnny and Alissa all the second chances they need.

And just for the record...if we couldn't come on here and voice an opinion, why bother having a board????

 

[Nan]

Until that happens.....we'll wait to see if Weir's skating goes beyond Otonal.

The skaters you listed had their moement of glory when all looked lost but only Arakawa was capable of holding on to it to develop further. I believe she is the exception to the rule. Paul got into exhibitions which to me did not vary much in presentation. Yes, he became more consistent but what variety did he bring to the exhibitions? For me, seeing one of Paul's best skates, I have seen them all. If you look at Miki's exhibition in Tokyo, it is not a wow performance. Miki is not a consistent skater.

One could go on about Nikidinov and Savoie and so many more. They were fine but limited. They all had that one lucky skate but nothing further.

Sandhu and Weir for me are waiting to be 'have beens' unless they get that once in a lifetime gold medal, and lately, we welcome a podium finish.

Joe

I certainly can't agree about Paul Wylie. His Olympic programs were outstanding and his silver medal was greatly deserved and than some!!! I have seen him many times and he was "fantastic", never boring!!! One of the best moments for me was when he won the silver medal and it was the first time he skated in Stars on Ice, a moment you always remember. I saw him in a show with Scott H and Kurt B (Three Masters) and he was wonderful and was as good as they were. I miss seeing him skate. Paul always skated with passion and "no comment" on some gold medal winner who just skated around and jumped and was to arrogant to really care if the program had any content to it or not and I would take Paul skating any day over this gold medal winner.

 

[Spun Silver]

Yes, fan boards are all about the opinions of members of the skating audience. True, fans have an impact.

Also true: fans can be arrogant and self-important to the point of being ludicrous.

Maybe someone is suffering from jetlag?

I'm with Zanzibar and Mafke.

 

[Joesitz (RIP)]

Maybe someone is suffering from jetlag?
.

Definitely not.

Weir and Sandhu had something to offer but it did not develop further., and it has nothing to do with medals. And I stand by that opinion.

 

[slutskayafan21]

Not really. There is too much depth developing in the mens field to wait on them. Joubert is looking like a world beater at the moment, Lambiel has made a miraceleous comeback to medal at Worlds and will be hungry to get back on top again, Plushenko might be returning, Lysacek is the U.S's new golden boy and top hope, Buttle has been that for Canada for awhile, there are 2 exciting up and coming Japanese-one who just won silver at Worlds, and an exciting up and coming European in Verner too. There are great juniors from the U.S and Canada coming. The World of figure skating has no reason to wait on them, they arent so devoid of stars to have kept waiting for them to get their act together, and others have filled into those roles they had chances to fill themselves in the past. They have had lots of chances and the field has moved off without them more or less, they will have an incredibly tough time rejoining the elite group even if they want to at this point, nobody will be waiting on them any longer that is for sure.

 

[Mathman]

Should "we" give Johnny another chance?

I am not sure who the "we" is in this question. The ISU will give Johnny a chance to skate in the Grand Prix next year. USFS will give Johnny a chance to compete at U.S. Nationals. If he skates well, he will have a chance to compete at worlds.

He has a chance to work on his quad. He has a chance to delvelop new programs which either go back to his strengths or press forward into unbroken ground.

If "we" means the fans, does the question mean, should we stop rooting for him?

 

[Jhar55]

i am not a big Johnny fan but in Dallas when he walked off the ice i thought he was done but came back the next year to win so never count anyone one out until they say there done.
how many counted honda out several years ago he look where he's at now.

 

[Tinymavy15]

Johnny can make i comeback. I am not saying he will, but i think that it is not time to lose hope just yet. He just needs a break and chosse musci that he is comfortable skating too. Maybe piano music would be good. Sandu... i think that he has nothing to comeback form. He is not only incocnsitant, he is not a good competior, and usually that's the name of the game. I think that he has had chances to prove himself and has not done so. he dosen't make just one mistake... but once somthing goes wrong, he can't get back on track.