2019-20 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

[Fluture]

Well, I‘m still of the opinion that Sinitsyna is a better skater overall than Alysa Liu but it really isn‘t fair that she has to face her twice...

 

[Fluture]

https://www.instagram.com/p/B1YtnjIIt9Y/?igshid=1ajzwzduo3vrp

Also, some other news: Zhenya and the President of the Russian Olympic Committee will be a part of a press conference on the 27th of August. Sounds pretty important!

 

[Vandevska]

https://www.instagram.com/p/B1YtnjIIt9Y/?igshid=1ajzwzduo3vrp

Also, some other news: Zhenya and the President of the Russian Olympic Committee will be a part of a press conference on the 27th of August. Sounds pretty important!

Zhenya the spokesperson :luv17:

 

[Spirals for Miles]

Well, I‘m still of the opinion that Sinitsyna is a better skater overall than Alysa Liu but it really isn‘t fair that she has to face her twice...

I'm not sure who I prefer or think is stronger :think: I just don't think that they should have to go head-to-head twice before the JGPF. But it's good that Sinitsyna is trusted to get the job done

 

[Edwin]

Don't know where the original message is posted, but Daniil and the kids have arrived safely in France: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachme...33898965401600/Screenshot_20190820_210619.jpg

 

[Jeanie19]

There is not any Russian ladies at US classic. I know the elevation is problematic, but the competition seems weak. I wish they sent Sima or Leonova to this event.

 

[Edwin]

I know the elevation is problematic, but the competition seems weak.

How come? Skaters live in cold and dry (humidity wise) conditions at their rinks for lots of times. Doesn't this mean their respiratory systems are adapted to the same air one would find at altitude? Is the oxygen content at those altitudes really much lower?
The slightly lower air pressure at altitude benefits speed skaters mostly, I doubt the lesser air resistance is really mattering in figure skating.

 

[DenissVFan]

There is not any Russian ladies at US classic. I know the elevation is problematic, but the competition seems weak. I wish they sent Sima or Leonova to this event.

Last year they didn't use all their Challenger spots either... I'd be a pity if someone like Talalaikina didn't get any. (I know, it's probably about money, but still.)

 

[DenissVFan]

How come? Skaters live in cold and dry (humidity wise) conditions at their rinks for lots of times. Doesn't this mean their respiratory systems are adapted to the same air one would find at altitude? Is the oxygen content at those altitudes really much lower?
The slightly lower air pressure at altitude benefits speed skaters mostly, I doubt the lesser air resistance is really mattering in figure skating.

There were issues at this event in previous years, e.g. with Marin Honda.

 

[Jeanie19]

How come? Skaters live in cold and dry (humidity wise) conditions at their rinks for lots of times. Doesn't this mean their respiratory systems are adapted to the same air one would find at altitude? Is the oxygen content at those altitudes really much lower?
The slightly lower air pressure at altitude benefits speed skaters mostly, I doubt the lesser air resistance is really mattering in figure skating.

I don't know, but all the boards talk about how the elevation at Salt Lake City affects skaters. Two years ago Marin Honda almost fainted.

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Last year they didn't use all their Challenger spots either... I'd be a pity if someone like Talalaikina didn't get any. (I know, it's probably about money, but still.)

I thought of her too.

 

[DanseMacabre]

There is not any Russian ladies at US classic. I know the elevation is problematic, but the competition seems weak. I wish they sent Sima or Leonova to this event.

For the past couple of years, getting a visa to enter the US (even for temporary professional or athletic events) has been getting harder. Not sure that has anything to do with it, but it seems within the realm of possibility. There have been several articles written about the difficulty travelers from certain regions have faced getting their visas processed on time or at all. From a 2018 Washington Post article: "A year ago, obtaining a U.S. tourist visa could take less than a week. Now, it comes with an eight-month delay."

I personally know a few authors who couldn't get visas to attend conferences in the US very recently. They had all their paperwork in order and had attended the same event in years prior but they were still either denied outright or delayed by months. I wouldn't be surprised if this sort of thing is having an impact on assignments.

How come? Skaters live in cold and dry (humidity wise) conditions at their rinks for lots of times. Doesn't this mean their respiratory systems are adapted to the same air one would find at altitude? Is the oxygen content at those altitudes really much lower?
The slightly lower air pressure at altitude benefits speed skaters mostly, I doubt the lesser air resistance is really mattering in figure skating.

It has nothing to do with temperature or humidity and everything to do with performing strenuous activity at elevation when you don't do that on a regular basis. I once passed out while exercising in Colorado because my body was not accustomed to just existing at altitude much less performing any kind of physical activity at a significant distance above sea level. I was in great physical condition and was a competitive athlete at the time. Altitude doesn't care.

 

[Edwin]

I don't know, but all the boards talk about how the elevation at Salt Lake City affects skaters. Two years ago Marin Honda almost fainted.

I must read up on this, because speed skaters, cyclist etc benefit from training stages at altitude because it 'enriches' their blood with respect to oxygen capacity, useful in big competitions just after those stages.
But perhaps to the unaccustomed, and those with low haemoglobin (?) levels, it can be disadvantageous to just fly in and compete unadapted.
And girls in puberty/adolescents often have lower haemoglobin levels?

 

[DanseMacabre]

I must read up on this, because speed skaters, cyclist etc benefit from training stages at altitude because it 'enriches' their blood with respect to oxygen capacity, useful in big competitions just after those stages.
But perhaps to the unaccustomed, and those with low haemoglobin (?) levels, it can be disadvantageous to just fly in and compete unadapted.

There is a huge difference between training at altitude and flying in for a single competition at altitude. The former can benefit you over the long term. The latter doesn't really give your body enough time to acclimate, especially when performing strenuous physical activity.

 

[SkateSkates]

It’s really unfortunate that no one was assigned to the US Challenger. The field is much weaker than ACI or Lombardia - likely due to the altitude which has been discussed above. Why doesn’t USFS move it to another location - California, Detroit, Boston, etc? Would make it much more attractive for both skaters and spectators (who would be seeing stronger skaters). Bradie isn’t even going there for the 2nd year in a row.

Regarding the visas, Stasya should have one since she’s competing at the Aurora games this weekend and Skate America. I agree with the sentiments above - why not give the assignment to Sotskova, Stasya, Gulyakova etc? Or Aliona/Sasha/Anna to debut with a good chance to win. Oh well.

 

[JazzUp]

Don't know where the original message is posted

That's from Daniil's instastories.

 

[DenissVFan]

In the past they sent skaters who didn't make nationals over some of those who did. Is it about who is willing to pay for travel out of their own pocket when it comes to Challengers?

 

[Artemisa]

Sinitsyna has to face Alysa twice :shocked:

If she fails the first time ... I don't think she will have a 2 JGP .... RFD message to junior ladies is very clear to get a second JGP you have to win the first one...

 

[vesperalvioletta]

It’s really unfortunate that no one was assigned to the US Challenger. The field is much weaker than ACI or Lombardia - likely due to the altitude which has been discussed above. Why doesn’t USFS move it to another location - California, Detroit, Boston, etc? Would make it much more attractive for both skaters and spectators (who would be seeing stronger skaters). Bradie isn’t even going there for the 2nd year in a row.

Regarding the visas, Stasya should have one since she’s competing at the Aurora games this weekend and Skate America. I agree with the sentiments above - why not give the assignment to Sotskova, Stasya, Gulyakova etc? Or Aliona/Sasha/Anna to debut with a good chance to win. Oh well.

I see your point, but I also don't think it would make much sense for RusFed to assign anyone to US Classic considering that almost every other Challenger is practically in their backyard. When they have so many others to choose from, the hassle and the expense of traveling overseas for a competition that the skater may have to pay out-of-pocket expenses for just doesn't make sense. It makes sense for Medvedeva to go to Autumn Classic and Tarasova/Morozov to go to US Classic because of their training locations, but otherwise it just doesn't seem worth it. Not to mention the added detraction of skating at altitude and SLC not really having an international airport.

 

[Jeanie19]

I see your point, but I also don't think it would make much sense for RusFed to assign anyone to US Classic considering that almost every other Challenger is practically in their backyard. When they have so many others to choose from, the hassle and the expense of traveling overseas for a competition that the skater may have to pay out-of-pocket expenses for just doesn't make sense. It makes sense for Medvedeva to go to Autumn Classic and Tarasova/Morozov to go to US Classic because of their training locations, but otherwise it just doesn't seem worth it. Not to mention the add detraction of skating at altitude and SLC not really having an international airport.

I vote that US classics gets moved to Boston.

 

[SkateSkates]

I see your point, but I also don't think it would make much sense for RusFed to assign anyone to US Classic considering that almost every other Challenger is practically in their backyard. When they have so many others to choose from, the hassle and the expense of traveling overseas for a competition that the skater may have to pay out-of-pocket expenses for just doesn't make sense. It makes sense for Medvedeva to go to Autumn Classic and Tarasova/Morozov to go to US Classic because of their training locations, but otherwise it just doesn't seem worth it. Not to mention the added detraction of skating at altitude and SLC not really having an international airport.

The problem is max 3 entries at each challenger. Assuming they give Tarakanova, Vasilieva and Tarusina a later season challenger to get a higher senior SB score (all are eligible) that hardly leaves spots left for any of the other ladies who did qualify for nationals last season like both Maria’s, Gulyakova, Leonova, Liza N, Gubanova etc.