I wouldn't go so far to say Eunsoo was or wasn't lying. No one really knows what happened. Her management company never provided proof even though they promised they would after Worlds which was wrong, especially after the international attention this received that resulted in Mariah being harassed/ having her name tarnished. But I do think Adam should have just continued to let this die. It wasn't right to bring it up again. Both should continue to focus on this season.
Eun-Soo Lim
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Yeah they didn’t provide proof because there wasn’t any. She should’ve dropped her management, they effectively ruined her career this year. She was improving so much with Raf, and now her jumps are looking worse. So unfortunate because she is such a special skater and I’d like to see her finally skate clean and actually contend for gold.
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Not again, no, please, not this again. It's pointless and painful, no, just no.
Or because EunSoo didn’t want the negative attention and wanted to focus on what’s ahead instead.
Please cut it out. There are many Korean interviews where EunSoo spoke of the difficulties in training w/ RAF where she’s visibly fighting back tears... before the whole incident at Worlds.
Just drop it and let the girl move forward. The whole “her crazy agency made everything up and jeopardized EunSoo” angle is just crazy.
EunSoo left Raf soon after Worlds and is still with her management agency. She left Raf and her rink and NOT her “crazy agency.” If her agency was crazy, making things up and jeopardizing EunSoo, she’d still be training with Raf and have moved onto another management agency.
Please cut it out. There are many Korean interviews where EunSoo spoke of the difficulties in training w/ RAF where she’s visibly fighting back tears... before the whole incident at Worlds.
Just drop it and let the girl move forward. The whole “her crazy agency made everything up and jeopardized EunSoo” angle is just crazy.
EunSoo left Raf soon after Worlds and is still with her management agency. She left Raf and her rink and NOT her “crazy agency.” If her agency was crazy, making things up and jeopardizing EunSoo, she’d still be training with Raf and have moved onto another management agency.
It's cool to disagree but coming at me like this is ridiculous. It's not that serious chief. On ignore you go.
i am not going to comment about Adam Rippon on Squirtle's Fanfest (or ever). I posted in my tweet account "ignoring is my greatest malice", that is just how I deal with stuff, btw, I knew exactly what Adam Rippon is living for. And I have chosen to completely ignore him.
The whole “her crazy agency made everything up and jeopardized EunSoo” angle is just crazy.", I would say this is very clever damage control tactics from the other side. but people with brains and looked the facts just for a bit, should immediately know this is just a tactic.
I went to Skate America in person, all I wanna say, I fell in love with our girl
I will wrote more about this when I got time.
@Ichatdelune I'm still alive and I will talk a bit about Squirtle's costume as well
ETA, also I wanna add, there are many Eunsoo supporters out there, but we support our girl by going to event to watch her. like the guy shouting out "we love you" etc and got a heart from our girl in return. because, we love our girl's precious beautiful skating and hope the best for her
not other things.
The whole “her crazy agency made everything up and jeopardized EunSoo” angle is just crazy.", I would say this is very clever damage control tactics from the other side. but people with brains and looked the facts just for a bit, should immediately know this is just a tactic.
I went to Skate America in person, all I wanna say, I fell in love with our girl
I will wrote more about this when I got time.@Ichatdelune I'm still alive and I will talk a bit about Squirtle's costume as well
ETA, also I wanna add, there are many Eunsoo supporters out there, but we support our girl by going to event to watch her. like the guy shouting out "we love you" etc and got a heart from our girl in return. because, we love our girl's precious beautiful skating and hope the best for her
not other things.
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I just wonder if you assume Eunsoo lied or her agency has not responded adequately. What option ATS can have? Do you think they should have sued Mariah for bullying Eunsoo? Or from the beginning they should have shut up before making a fuss about it? I'm sure KSU warned ATS that they should not respond anymore if Eunsoo can skate at ISU competition. If Adam can sure of what's going on there, I want him to sue ATS. I also want to know the fact. I'm sure ATS would respond if Mariah sue them.
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Update on her ISU bio: squirtle's going back to her Somewhere in Time SP, so pros: step sequence levels should go up, that ethereal dress / cons: no more fan-waving choreo :sad4:, less variety in her performances (since she now has gentle, lyrical music for both her programs)
I don't know, while I do love Somewhere in Time I still want to see Capriccio Espagnol done to its full potential :sad21: Maybe in the future it could be reworked into a FS (if she has enough stamina for it, that is)..?
I don't know, while I do love Somewhere in Time I still want to see Capriccio Espagnol done to its full potential :sad21: Maybe in the future it could be reworked into a FS (if she has enough stamina for it, that is)..?
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eunsoo has changed her sp back to “somewhere in time.”
http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00054723.htm
http://www.isuresults.com/bios/isufs00054723.htm
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I think it's a good choice - that program is just perfect :thumbsup:
Aw why?? 
I loved Somewhere in Time, but Capriccio Espagnol was a great program too. If it’s because she’s uncomfortable with it, then I still think she should’ve at least waited until after NHK to ditch it. Or maybe I’m just against re-using programs in general 
I loved Somewhere in Time, but Capriccio Espagnol was a great program too. If it’s because she’s uncomfortable with it, then I still think she should’ve at least waited until after NHK to ditch it. Or maybe I’m just against re-using programs in general
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Aw why??
I think it's more of a step sequence issue (it was called a level 2 in every competition she did), NHK is a deep field and even if she's not hoping for a podium she certainly is thinking about WR points. Also, in the long run, she's thinking about Nats (she's going against Young's 3A after all) and Worlds (the possibility of 3 spots is a big deal), every point counts and she has been clean with Somewhere in Time. Of course theses are all speculations, but squirtle's not the kind to go back to her old program without good reasons.
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Sorry for the double post, but I've been trying to deal with my disappointments with not getting to see Capriccio Espagnol with my own eyes 
and long story short, here's a veeeeeeery rough cut of an imagined reworked Capriccio Espagnol FS. It's just basically the cut for the SP given some breathing room, like ugh I love than fan-waving choreo and I wanted to see it at Nats :sad4: :sad4:
https://clyp.it/fhp4gosz?token=215d3bedd73350fa3fc666627bfd4fce
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This is just me and my wacky theory, but Haein said she sometimes trains the 3A when things are going well, and she's coached by Coach Chi just like squirtle, also last season when asked if she had plans for training difficult jumps squirtle said that if she was going to train one it probably would be the 3A, so...
and long story short, here's a veeeeeeery rough cut of an imagined reworked Capriccio Espagnol FS. It's just basically the cut for the SP given some breathing room, like ugh I love than fan-waving choreo and I wanted to see it at Nats :sad4: :sad4:https://clyp.it/fhp4gosz?token=215d3bedd73350fa3fc666627bfd4fce
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This is just me and my wacky theory, but Haein said she sometimes trains the 3A when things are going well, and she's coached by Coach Chi just like squirtle, also last season when asked if she had plans for training difficult jumps squirtle said that if she was going to train one it probably would be the 3A, so...
I absolutely loved her SP last year and think it suits her style the most. However, I hope this doesn't negatively affect how judges view her. I can't help but imagine some judges may subconsciously give not as high marks for a repeated program.
She should be comfortable with the program though, so performance quality should be great!
She should be comfortable with the program though, so performance quality should be great!
Hm, maybe. But she’s only been at two competitions, so can’t she just go to her choreographer and work on the step sequence then, instead of getting rid of the entire program? I just find her changing the program entirely this early in the season really odd. Plus, I feel that Somewhere in Time is too similar to Sabrina. But yeah, she probably has her own reasons for deciding this, so hopefully she’ll be more comfortable with the change.
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Oh wow @Ichatdelune, that FS remake of Capriccio Espagnol sounds great. Still I feel kinda bummed that it's being shelved. I have my qualms with the program but to not see it in it's full potential sucks. I think it's a great program for her to test her sharpness and expand her performance range. Oh well, at least it's for the better and for comfort.
Now that you guys mentioned her repeating the SP, I just got the sudden flashbacks of her reusing her Bollywood SP 3 times as a novice and her Pink Panther FS for like 4 seasons. Oof, those were rough times.
Now that you guys mentioned her repeating the SP, I just got the sudden flashbacks of her reusing her Bollywood SP 3 times as a novice and her Pink Panther FS for like 4 seasons. Oof, those were rough times.
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I think she might reuse capriccio espagnol later when she is older and more comfortable. I dont know, i just think that she is going through something. She looked like she is going to cry whenever i watch her. Beside that SS seemed to overwhelmed her, she looked like she was exhausted and pushed herself to finish that ss just like how zhenya did with her ss for her FP last season. But zhenya has both orser and trusova to play the politic and marketing part. Eunsoo has no one while the other party were trying to demonized her. By going to her last season program, she could focus on her jumps, because her jumps are shaky this year. My only concern is that she already perform this program beautifuly last season, judges would want more and the program is just too similar with her FP. She could get smear campaign as emotionless like yuna before sochi. I mean tara already started it.
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