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2019-20 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

Strangely, Alysa Liu won't be at Youth Olympics but Young You will be there! That's really tough competition for Sinitsyna and Vasilieva.
 
So after the new Tutberidze dancing video came out I want to say that awhile ago I stated that Anna has better musicality and artistry than Alena and not ONE single person agreed with me. Now I'm asking you all to watch the video and compare Alena to Anna because it is very clearly evident how much better musicality Anna has compared to Alena
 
So after the new Tutberidze dancing video came out I want to say that awhile ago I stated that Anna has better musicality and artistry than Alena and not ONE single person agreed with me. Now I'm asking you all to watch the video and compare Alena to Anna because it is very clearly evident how much better musicality Anna has compared to Alena

Oh, I thought everyone was in consensus that Anna has the better musicality. It's been obvious for a looong time.
 
So after the new Tutberidze dancing video came out I want to say that awhile ago I stated that Anna has better musicality and artistry than Alena and not ONE single person agreed with me. Now I'm asking you all to watch the video and compare Alena to Anna because it is very clearly evident how much better musicality Anna has compared to Alena

Extremely obvious. In fact even Sasha is a better dancer with more commitment to the movements than Alena. Really with Alena it's all about the gliding ability on ice.
 
Strangely, Alysa Liu won't be at Youth Olympics but Young You will be there! That's really tough competition for Sinitsyna and Vasilieva.

:otopic: YOG conflicts with US Nationals, so Alysa will be at Nationals instead.

Good luck to Sinitsyna and Vasilieva (:pray:) at YOG, and to everyone at nationals next week!
 
I'm really unhappy Alysa won't be at YOG because apparently a Nationals is more important than an Olympics. I know, it's not the 'real' Olympics but for a youngster it's quite a competition! The two best Junior Russian ladies are going (rightly so). A bit of competition with Alysa would be great.
 
I'm really unhappy Alysa won't be at YOG because apparently a Nationals is more important than an Olympics. I know, it's not the 'real' Olympics but for a youngster it's quite a competition! The two best Junior Russian ladies are going (rightly so). A bit of competition with Alysa would be great.

The two best junior russian ladies are not age eligible.

I do think it's sad how the US hasn't taken full advantage of the opportunities for things like the Youth Olympics and the Universiade. But US nationals is usually the most watched figure skating event in the US for the year... moreso than Worlds.
 
The two best junior russian ladies are not age eligible.

I do think it's sad how the US hasn't taken full advantage of the opportunities for things like the Youth Olympics and the Universiade. But US nationals is usually the most watched figure skating event in the US for the year... moreso than Worlds.

If US Ladies were more competitive on the World stage I think Worlds would be a bigger deal but as it is right now the top 2 age-eligible ladies are going to have to be flawless and hope for some flaws by others to even have a shot at the top 5. Podium is completely unattainable unless a lot of strange things happen.

I do think Alysa is missing out on opportunities because home-cooking she'll get very favorable scoring and the JGPF showed that she has things to work on and I think there is something to be said for competing with international judges critiquing vs. at home where I think given the things Russian ladies are pioneering the US will fill the need to pump up their best shot at beating the Russians or doing some of the things they are doing.
 
:otopic: YOG conflicts with US Nationals, so Alysa will be at Nationals instead.

Good luck to Sinitsyna and Vasilieva (:pray:) at YOG, and to everyone at nationals next week!

I find it strange though. Alysa had a real chance here. She already beaten Sinitsyna and Vasilieva ad JGPF.
Yeah, I know, US Nationals. But there is one week between competitions, surely that's doable?
 
Aliona marches to the beat of her own drum, why would her dancing be any different 🤣

But actually, her dancing movements - specifically the hip movements and chest movements - look much more natural and fluid than they used to, so she’s getting better. They looked quite awkward in the older videos, but this probably comes with increased maturity and body awareness. I know she’s only 16, but despite her height, she looks a lot older than the rest of the girls in her body development.

I would really like to see her doing something more classical or slower which I think would suit her better, but I guess this is expanding her range....please let’s see Aliona and Dasha doing something with softer, languid movements.
 
So, I'm thinking...the Top6 at Nationals are quite certain, right?. I think they are:

Anna Shcherbakova
Alena Kostornaia
Alexandra Trusova
Elizaveta Tuktamysheva
Evgenia Medvedeva
Ksenia Sinitsyna

I really can't see anyone else get into that Top6.

If someone else gets in there, that would be a sensation don't you think?
 
So, I'm thinking...the Top6 at Nationals are quite certain, right?. I think they are:

Anna Shcherbakova
Alena Kostornaia
Alexandra Trusova
Elizaveta Tuktamysheva
Evgenia Medvedeva
Ksenia Sinitsyna

I really can't see anyone else get into that Top6.

If someone else gets in there, that would be a sensation don't you think?

Nothing is certain at Russian Nationals! But I would agree that if all skate their best, this is likely the top 6.
 
Wut. I'm shocked how less musical Kostornaia comes across in these videos. Guess all those posters raving about Scherb's musicality were onto something.

This is what many have been saying for a while, that musicality and skating skills are separate entities (it's seems to be widely believed that jumps are technical and skating skills are considered equivalent to artistry. But, both Anna and Alena have very different strengths. Anna is infinitely more musical, but I also think Alena has much better skating skills. Many people mistake Alena's skating skills for musicality as it allows her to skate "bigger". Just like how many people mistakenly believe that Anna is not artistic because her skating skills aren't as good. But really, Alena's strength is technical (SS) much like Sasha (jumps), and Anna's biggest strength is her artistry (musicality and interpretation).

A skater with very good musicality and skating skills is Tarakanova. Unfortunately, she's had some big problems in the past few seasons (lost her motivation and passion for skating, jump/consistency issues, multiple coaching changes, etc.). Same with Gubanova.
 
This is what many have been saying for a while, that musicality and skating skills are separate entities (it's seems to be widely believed that jumps are technical and skating skills are considered equivalent to artistry. But, both Anna and Alena have very different strengths. Anna is infinitely more musical, but I also think Alena has much better skating skills. Many people mistake Alena's skating skills for musicality as it allows her to skate "bigger". Just like how many people mistakenly believe that Anna is not artistic because her skating skills aren't as good. But really, Alena's strength is technical (SS) much like Sasha (jumps), and Anna's biggest strength is her artistry (musicality and interpretation).

A skater with very good musicality and skating skills is Tarakanova. Unfortunately, she's had some big problems in the past few seasons (lost her motivation and passion for skating, jump/consistency issues, multiple coaching changes, etc.). Same with Gubanova.

Well, we will see about Tarakanova and Gubanova at nationals. I think, and I hope, that at least one of them will surrprise us.
 
Nothing is certain at Russian Nationals! But I would agree that if all skate their best, this is likely the top 6.

Might be the truest statement in figure skating. Last year was a rollercoaster. In what world would anyone have imagined that Stanislava Konstantinova would "win" senior nationals ahead of Alina Zagitova and Evgenia Medvedeva. Let's recap: Stasya was the highest ranked senior and if juniors weren't competing, she would've been national champion. Never qualified for junior or senior GPF, never podiumed at junior or senior worlds. Ahead of Olympic gold and silver medalists.

Hopefully no one has a meltdown this year.
 
Might be the truest statement in figure skating. Last year was a rollercoaster. In what world would anyone have imagined that Stanislava Konstantinova would "win" senior nationals ahead of Alina Zagitova and Evgenia Medvedeva. Let's recap: Stasya was the highest ranked senior and if juniors weren't competing, she would've been national champion. Never qualified for junior or senior GPF, never podiumed at junior or senior worlds. Ahead of Olympic gold and silver medalists.

Hopefully no one has a meltdown this year.

The biggest thing though was that Samodurova got through RusNats, and then went on to win the Europeans. Certainly no one had predicted that on this day a year ago...
 
The two best junior russian ladies are not age eligible.

I do think it's sad how the US hasn't taken full advantage of the opportunities for things like the Youth Olympics and the Universiade. But US nationals is usually the most watched figure skating event in the US for the year... moreso than Worlds.
Wait, who are the best two junior russian ladies? Kamila I get, but who's the other one? I feel like Sinitsyna is the second strongest
 
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