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Alena Kostornaia

And this is just one of a thousand reasons why I think she's the best thing that’s happened in the last fifty years in the world of figure skating. :laugh:

I only wish that she will stay healthy and that she may delight us for many years again :pray:

I totally agree! :pray:

madmax - did you get to see Aliona live at GPF?? If so, please tell us more about your experience!!
 
Welcome to Aliona's fan thread, McBibus! I know you've posted about Aliona elsewhere, but please post here as well! :agree:

And I agree--IF something did happen, it seems to be in the past now. They look very friendly together here:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B7EMM46p3F9/ :luv17:

You see that Liza misses her fancy glove?
She removed it when she was tasting food with Aliona so there is even frindly background to the shot you linked
 
madmax - did you get to see Aliona live at GPF?? If so, please tell us more about your experience!!

Unfortunately, no. In those days I had to stay at home due to far less pleasant events.
I just hope to have another chance to see her live.
 
Unfortunately, no. In those days I had to stay at home due to far less pleasant events.
I just hope to have another chance to see her live.

Aww, I'm sorry to hear that! Yes, hopefully you have another chance to see her live! :yes:

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More photos from the Bolzano show!

Another pic of Liza & Aliona at the meet & greet:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B7Gzy0pJDu7/ :love:

Scroll to the 5th pic to see Aliona & Daniel Grassl:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B6-hKnwoA3y/ :agree:

With Enrico Sansone:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B6-iP0EIX2_/ :luv17:

And Lorenzo Magri:
https://www.instagram.com/p/B6_MFYzIpjL/
Yes, she is a little Russian princess! :yes: :love:
 
I finally got around to watching the full version of the Bolzano Passion Gala...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-uS0_5hrBY

Can one of our Italian friends please tell us what the commentators said about Aliona? :bow: Thanks in advance!

She does her first EX around 38:20, and the second one is around 1:12:16.

This time I noticed that she actually styled her hair differently for the two performances. :luv17:
 
Very positive comments on Alyona's skating: https://vk.com/video-190661079_456239017 and https://youtu.be/aNz7sXhXHi0, from: https://www.sports.ru/tribuna/blogs/alenakostornaia/2691090.html

But not so favourable comments on Alyona in the press conferences: https://inosmi.ru/social/20200111/246575415.html , which I do agree with, Alyona was really showing disdain for the press at these occasions. But hopefully, the training staff and FFKKR press officer will keep Alyona from developing a 'diva attitude'.
 
Very positive comments on Alyona's skating: https://vk.com/video-190661079_456239017 and https://youtu.be/aNz7sXhXHi0, from: https://www.sports.ru/tribuna/blogs/alenakostornaia/2691090.html

But not so favourable comments on Alyona in the press conferences: https://inosmi.ru/social/20200111/246575415.html , which I do agree with, showing disdain for the press at these occasions. But hopefully, the training staff and FFKKR press officer will keep Alyona from developing a 'diva attitude'.

I think Aliona and the others definitely need some (more) media training, but I don't think the situtation is that bad. They are basically still kids.

But I would definitely welcome the idea to "confiscate" their mobile phones for the press conference. There are situations when being on your phone can be seen very disrespectful. I know this myself, sometimes I have to force myself to put it down at certain social gatherings, even if I'm bored out of my mind.

With the big medals and attention the girls also have to face new responsibilities. And keeping up a good apperance in front of the media is important. The media likes criticising and when they can't find fault in their skating, they will come up with something else. There's no need to give them a reason.
 
I agree with this, BabySloth. They're kids, they need some more coaching on how to handle interviews and press conferences, and phones should be put away at such times. It's not terrible, it's just teenagers being teenagers, and possibly being a little overwhelmed by the limelight. As long as they get media training, I expect that Aliona and Sasha will be as good as Anna at the GPF conference in no time. I would say that they both did all right at the RusNats press conference, though I do suspect Aliona still has a phone with her, judging by her glances at her lap when no questions are coming her way!
 
Both at the pre show event and at the Hotel Aliona was nothing less the supersweet with everybody, so I don't think her problems with the press are due to a diva attitude.
It's very difficult to have a real opinion as most of the interview are in russian and I can't understand a word, but the impression is that one on one she seems more at ease but even there she tends to shy away during the reply.
Many to Many conference seems top be the worst situation.
GP Final conference just plain, but there where some interesting moments in the post rusnat conference.
She totally let Anna and Sasha takle the questions, almost inviting the journalist to not speak with her but she seemed to suggest asnwers to Anna in a pair of questions.

In one occasion when Anna was perplexed by the question she stepped in in a way that exploited how stupid the question was.
J: "When you skate yuor program do you ever improvise?"
While Anna was opening the mouth to replay Aliona mocked "Sure: do Axel instead of Lutz"
Anna, being adorable as she is, gave a very good (and patient) answer btw.

When asked about the doping scandal the situation reverted with "no comment" for Anna and Sasha, Aliona answered.
A very informed answer, pointing out that in the end they were asking to comment on something that was yet to happen.
I expected a third "no comment" and she surprised me, showing once again that her personality is layered and complex.

They defintely need training, Aliona especially because she has the potential to be a star even in press.
She can joke and she can sting, but she need to be trained how and when to use those weapons.
 
I finally got around to watching the full version of the Bolzano Passion Gala...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-uS0_5hrBY

Can one of our Italian friends please tell us what the commentators said about Aliona? :bow: Thanks in advance!

She does her first EX around 38:20, and the second one is around 1:12:16.

This time I noticed that she actually styled her hair differently for the two performances. :luv17:

Nothing worth translating.
Ex 1 they say she's the GP final winner
Ex 2 that she will skate on part of her competition program and be a vampire
 
But not so favourable comments on Alyona in the press conferences: https://inosmi.ru/social/20200111/246575415.html , which I do agree with, Alyona was really showing disdain for the press at these occasions. But hopefully, the training staff and FFKKR press officer will keep Alyona from developing a 'diva attitude'.

I was wondering if this article would end up on Goldenskate somewhere... :sarcasm:

This is actually a Russian translation of a JAPANESE article in a publication called "NUMBER," which I would say is a pretty mainstream magazine (not a tabloid). The original article is here:https://number.bunshun.jp/articles/-/841745

I saw this article soon after it was published (right after GPF), and though I was extremely upset by how the Japanese press was criticizing Aliona, I decided not to share this on the forum, because Aliona was already starting to getting a ton of criticism (not just here, but also on Russian sites), and I did NOT want to add any fuel to the fire. :disapp:

But now that it's out there, I have A LOT to say about this.

First, let me give some context for this article.

1) I would say that prior to the GP season (and even through the middle of it), Aliona was NOT well known by the Japanese media/the general skating-watching public. Yes, serious skating fans in Japan knew all about her, but most of the media coverage through the early part of the GP series was only about Anna and Sasha because they had quads, and they were the gold and silver medalists from the 2019 Jr worlds.

2) As a result, I think the Japanese media was kind of taken by surprise when Aliona won IDF, and even the JSF (Japanese skating federation) was surprised by how well the new senior Russian ladies were doing.

Here's the NUMBER article on IDF (written by a different author):
https://number.bunshun.jp/articles/-/841352

"After IDF, the head of the Japanese Skating Federation, Yoshiko Kobayashi, expressed her reaction like this. 'Last year, we predicted that the Russian ladies--or rather, the three junior ladies who would move to seniors--would be a threat. But we thought that maybe they would grow [and not be able to do quads anymore], or that even if they got good PCS scores as juniors, those scores would go down slightly when they moved to seniors. We shouldn't really be saying this since we're not doing [quads], but that was the slight expectation we had.

'But that hasn't been the case at all. They have moved to seniors with all their force/energy [i.e., quad jumps], and well, different people say different things, but it does seem that that force is showing up on the PCS side as well.'"

In other words 1) the JSF had severely underestimated how good the 3 A's would be, and 2) they were not happy that the new senior girls were getting such high PCS.

The rest of this article is actually quite favorable to Aliona. The author of this article, Akiko Tamura, goes on to say that she thinks Kobayashi's criticism of Trusova and Shcherbakova was valid, but that Aliona is different because "compared to the other two, she has already developed a senior-level of expression."

Then the author talks about how the press conference became awkward because they weren't sure how to ask questions to Alina now that it seems that you can't win without big jumps, but unexpectedly Aliona was the one who eased the situation by bringing up the example of Carolina Kostner. :)

3) Despite Aliona's win at IDF, I think she still wasn't that well known in Japan, and so NHK Trophy was advertised as the showdown between Rika and Alina. But then not only did Aliona--a relatively unknown skater--beat the home-crowd favorite, she also beat her by ~8 points, and to add insult to injury, she also broke Rika's SP record.

Thus, when the first negative Japanese article appeared after NHK Trophy, it seemed to me a bit like the Japanese media were being sore losers, and I, as well as a lot of Japanese fans on Twitter, were not happy with what it said.
https://sportiva.shueisha.co.jp/clm/othersports/figure/2019/11/24/_split_16/

I don't want to translate the full article, but basically it starts by talking about how Aliona came late to the press conference, and then the first thing she did when she sat down was take a photo of Alina. Then it goes on to suggest that Aliona is cold/aloof and calculating, in that she says what she thinks is the correct thing to say even if she doesn't really believe it.

This article was discussed a lot by the Japanese fans on Twitter, and I would say that almost all of the comments I saw were in support of Aliona, :yes: because most of those fans have seen Aliona's goofy side, or the way that she was laughing at the IDF medal mix-up, so they just couldn't believe that Aliona is cold and aloof, and so they didn't really take this article seriously.

4) Since I had seen the negative article after NHK Trophy, I was not surprised to see another negative article after GPF. My reaction was something like, "sighh, not again!!" :devil:

But while the article after NHK Trophy had a rather uncontroversial title--"Winning with frightening perfection. The 16-year-old-like behavior shown by aloof Kostornaia"--the article after GPF had a much more critical title--"Doubts about Kostornaya's attitude at the press conference. The skater character of a newly-crowned champion"--and as a result, it got a lot more attention.

I would say that just like with the first article, there were A LOT of Japanese fans who rushed to defend Aliona and criticize the author of the GPF article. Many of them said the same things we have said--"they are just teenagers, of course they don't know any better," "it's impolite to call others impolite," etc. And they posted pictures/videos of other skaters being on their phones during press conferences.

But, unfortunately, I also saw some people who agreed with the article and wrote things like, "they need to learn some manners." And that made me very sad. :noshake: Because I really wanted Aliona to get endorsements for Japanese companies like Alina/Zhenya have had, and if she has a bad reputation then it's probably not going to happen. :sad21:

Thankfully, people seemed to forget about this article after a few days and/or Alina's announcement about taking a pause in her career kind of made everyone forget about it. But then around the end of the year, NUMBER published a list of their most-read articles, and this one was #2! :eek: So this made a lot of people talk about this article again.

And now when I search for "Kostornaia" on Google Japan, this is the FIRST thing that pops up. :palmf:

From my perspective, yes, there are certainly things that Aliona could do better with her press conference behavior, and, yes, she would probably benefit from some media training. :yes:

However, I DO think that no matter what Aliona does--no matter if she behaves like an angel in a press conference--she is going to get criticized, unfortunately.

This post is already really long so I'm going to continue in my next one.
 
However, I DO think that no matter what Aliona does--no matter if she behaves like an angel in a press conference--she is going to get criticized, unfortunately.

Continuing my thoughts:

If you recall, way back at the beginning of the season, *I* was the one who wrote about fearing the day when people turn against Aliona, and unfortunately we seem to have reached that point. Whenever one skater starts to look dominant, she receives a lot of criticism, unfortunately. We saw it with Sasha early in the season (and Zhenya and Alina in the past).

In my opinion, the reason why Aliona's character is getting criticized so much is because it's VERY difficult to criticize her skating.
Her jumps are big and powerful; she skates with great speed; her posture is wonderful; she uses her arms and upper body beautifully; her edge quality is so high; she embodies the music...I can go on and on. :love:

Yes, we have seen others on this forum quibble about her shallow lutz edge, or what they see as a lack of facial expression, but really, it's quite difficult to complain Aliona as a skater, and so we've seen lots of complaints about her character instead. :yes:

And while *I* adore Aliona's devilish side, I can see how some people might be annoyed/offended by some of her antics.

I will say one more thing--which is that even if Aliona were no longer doing figure skating, I think there would still be people who don't like her. Not only because she has a devilish side and is prone to getting into trouble, but also because she's so stunningly pretty. I think that, unfortunately, there will always be people who are jealous, or intimidated, or who feel like she's being rewarded because of her looks.

Thankfully, Aliona herself seems quite aware that some people get the wrong impression of her. See one of her early interviews:
https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/s...a-Kostornaia&p=1881195&viewfull=1#post1881195

What do you think, what kind of person are you?

- Difficult. To communicate with me, you need a lot of patience, because I do not immediately get used to people, open up. I need to look at you first, to understand. I'm not one of those who will immediately come up, say: "Hello" and start to communicate. I have to see first how a man behaves, what he does and only then will I talk to him. But not everyone understands it. They think I'm arrogant. But this is not really the case.

For better or for worse, I think that Aliona kind of doesn't care what the broader public thinks, as long as her parents, her coaches/training mates, and her friends support her.

She didn't know anything about the rumors about her withdrawing about Nationals, so I *really* hope she doesn't see all the criticism she gets online either. :pray:

Just keeping striving to be the best and forget about all the rest! :biggrin:
 
Continuing my thoughts:

If you recall, way back at the beginning of the season, *I* was the one who wrote about fearing the day when people turn against Aliona, and unfortunately we seem to have reached that point. Whenever one skater starts to look dominant, she receives a lot of criticism, unfortunately. We saw it with Sasha early in the season (and Zhenya and Alina in the past).

In my opinion, the reason why Aliona's character is getting criticized so much is because it's VERY difficult to criticize her skating.
Her jumps are big and powerful; she skates with great speed; her posture is wonderful; she uses her arms and upper body beautifully; her edge quality is so high; she embodies the music...I can go on and on. :love:

Yes, we have seen others on this forum quibble about her shallow lutz edge, or what they see as a lack of facial expression, but really, it's quite difficult to complain Aliona as a skater, and so we've seen lots of complaints about her character instead. :yes:

And while *I* adore Aliona's devilish side, I can see how some people might be annoyed/offended by some of her antics.

I will say one more thing--which is that even if Aliona were no longer doing figure skating, I think there would still be people who don't like her. Not only because she has a devilish side and is prone to getting into trouble, but also because she's so stunningly pretty. I think that, unfortunately, there will always be people who are jealous, or intimidated, or who feel like she's being rewarded because of her looks.

Thankfully, Aliona herself seems quite aware that some people get the wrong impression of her. See one of her early interviews:
https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/s...a-Kostornaia&p=1881195&viewfull=1#post1881195



For better or for worse, I think that Aliona kind of doesn't care what the broader public thinks, as long as her parents, her coaches/training mates, and her friends support her.

She didn't know anything about the rumors about her withdrawing about Nationals, so I *really* hope she doesn't see all the criticism she gets online either. :pray:

Just keeping striving to be the best and forget about all the rest! :biggrin:

Some of her antics? Aliona has no antics. And if any of this BS about her being arrogant or having poor behavior gets back to her it's just going to make her withdraw even more from the media.
 
I agree that Aliona will have to improve her relationship with the media, but for different reasons than those for which they criticize her.

It's evident that she has a great personality, one of the things that makes me think that she’s the only one who can do the qualitative leap from a champion to a true star.

Most of the champions, strong athletes but without great personality, usually give pre-packaged interviews, filled with trivial statements, really of no interest.

They give us the usual blah blah, hidden behind a mask of plastic smiles, only concerned to avoid any controversy. I hope she never become like that.

Aliona needs to learn the importance of the role of the media and how to use them at their best.

In this field (as in every other field), my benchmark is still Katarina Witt who besides being a great athlete, knew very well how to manipulate the media to project an image of herself useful for her interests.

I want to quote a newspaper article as an extreme and funny example, which exemplifies how she was not afraid to make even politically incorrect statements to strengthen her image as a femme fatale (she was promoting her Carmen).

Press conference at the Calgary Olympics (she was a beautiful young woman of 22 at that time, not a teenager).

Those folks filled both the aisles and the 450 seats in the auditorium, and their number did not include the dozen film cameramen and three-dozen still photographers who wanted just one more shot.
They began shooting as she walked in the door, and they trailed after her as she moved to her seat at center stage.
"This way, Katarina" they demanded, and she turned and looked over her left shoulder and smiled at them.
"This way" others demanded, and she repeated her peformance for those to her right. Then, finally, she was looking straight ahead, and she was flirting outrageously with the forest of cameras
in front of her.
...
Then, finally, she was asked how she reacted to so many people showing up to see her.
Here Katarina Witt blushed, then giggled, then paused dramatically.
"I think it`s a very popular sport in the first place. I think that`s one of the reasons" she said modestly, and then she paused again.
"And, well, I know people like young women, but I am surprised so many are here. But it`s nice."
Katarina Witt smiled again after saying that, and again the cameras clicked away.


I think, no, I'm sure that a smart girl like Aliona will learn how to relate to the media without giving up her personality.
 
I think, no, I'm sure that a smart girl like Aliona will learn how to relate to the media without giving up her personality.

Fully agree on the 'superfluousness' of most press conferences and the majority of questions asked. Athletes get bored pretty quickly once the novelty has worn off.

The 'hot seat' interviews are much more interesting with the skaters' emotions still raw.

Alyona and any other skater must behave for their 'media image' is as important as their results for a future 'in business'.

Slightly disappointed in FFKKR's press officer, she should perhaps have instructed the skaters beforehand to put their phones away.
But the japantimes article was on almost all Russian figure skating media sites and blogs, so both FFKKR and Sambo-70 must have taken notice.
 
Along with an abundance of talent, elite athletes have a super sized will that drives them to higher levels. By nature, it’s often easy for them to dismiss mediocrity, especially as exhibited by the press. The Katerina Witt story posted above by mad max s brilliant and is probably the lesson that Aliona will learn.

At the same time, Aliona is a superb artist. My favorite video of her is in Vancouver at the JGP exhibition. The lighting and camera work cast an unworldly performance that is sublime in it’s sheer brilliance. As others have said before, this is a rare bird. Throw in beauty, intelligence and a precocious personality that loves to test the bounds, and you have a skater that can easily rock the boat.

My hope is that she stays true to herself while breaking new ground. The establishment thought Dylan was finished when he went electric at Newport. Along the way, it’s safe to say that Aliona will learn to manipulate the media in her own special rebellious way and although she will surely lose some fans, many more will flock to see her....
 
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