2020-21 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

[Scott512]

Thank you for saying that nice thing. Now if someone would say something nice about Alexandra Trusova's parents, I would thank that person, too.

I've seen so little of Sasha's parents I've never seen a big interview with them like Anna's parents. Sasha is a nice girl so we should only surmise that she has nice parents. The coaching change from the best coach in the sport for ladies to an unknown coach in the sport for ladies who has failed with two prominent girls Sima and Nastya was a dubious coaching change and business decision. But this has no bearing on whether her parents are nice or not they probably are. I hope this suffices has as someone saying Sasha has nice parents. Sasha also has nice little brothers.

My understanding is that in Russia the coaches have more authority over their pupils than is the case, for instance, in the USA. Still, I think the similarities are greater than the differences.

To me the question is universal. How hard should we push children to turn them into super athletes, or circus performers, or to get them into the movies as child actors, or to dress them up as child models? Does this take away from their primary job of being children? Or is it all worth it to maybe get rich and famous some day?

Your point about how the Russian figure skating coaches have more authority than the American figure skating coaches over their pupils is spot-on. They also I believe have more authority to be verbally harsh with their students than American coaches. But this is sports and this is life.

 

[Decoder]

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Excellent points!

 

[Scott512]

Thank you for saying that nice thing. Now if someone would say something nice about Alexandra Trusova's parents, I would thank that person, too.

Agree on both your points about TSL and Shcherbakova's parents, I was merely stating that's the argument that will get made

Yes the argument will be made and there's really nothing we can do to stop it. I'm just happy Anna who is physically like a ballerina can handle everything thrown at her with grace and class. Remember Anna has come back from a broken leg 3 years ago to do all this with quads and all her tough jumps like it's nothing. Unreal. So tough even though she's so fragile.

 

[Scott512]

Hey let's have a great week here in the Russian ladies thread filled with peace love and rock and roll. And figure skating too.
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[flanker]

Hey let's have a great week here in the Russian ladies thread filled with peace love and rock and roll. And figure skating too.
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Oh my sweet summer child, what do you know about the Russian Ladies Thread?

 

[moriel]

Hey let's have a great week here in the Russian ladies thread filled with peace love and rock and roll. And figure skating too.
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A week of peace love and rock and roll in this thread will end the universe and freeze hell.

 

[AshWagsFan]

It's like Kiira's sequel. "I've never met Tutberidze but..." The thing Shayuki has mentioned about her reply to the question on Anna's dress is just top of the iceberg. I've noticed as well she didn't answer the question.

Umm, her comparisons. Well, she probably didn't notice but some of the most serious cases of mental health issues/eating disorders came precisely from the side she says there is everything excellent. As for the attitude towards skaters, the most succesful coach in the United States is currently Raf and precisely his attitude is very different from what she says. As he said, "there is a custom to always praise in America but why should I lie when someone just does bad." I understand the issues against too harsh coaches and I didn't like the comment she mentioned about physical punishing of skaters as well, but the things can't turn the opposite extreme, like allowing everything or praising even obviously unhealthy habits - and I would like to mention that excessive body weight is much more spread problem of the modern society and all those "I love my (big) weight" is no less dangerous.

About her mentioning synchronized swimming - well, just recently I've seen some docuiments about the preparation of the swimmers in that centre and Ischenko/Romashina duet. Like the training style there or not, with the deep focus you can't say the conditions there would be somehow different than in e.g. Eteri's team. In this case it is obvious that she speaks from the position "they are valuable customers I would speak nicely about them, Eteri is not my customer, so I can give an answer as if Anna's costume was some abomination, Eteri is a dictator and her results come from the point she works with kids" (I wonder then how is it possible that other coaches work with the skaters of the same age without those results - but she made it as the main and only important aspect...).

All in all, it's 90 % BS, 10 % more or less valuable info to me. I don't know adequate english proverb, but we say "whose bread you eat, his song you sing." That's her.

I guess some good English proverbs for that would be “don’t judge a book by its cover,” “two wrongs don’t make a right,” or perhaps “don’t bite the hand that feeds you”

 

[moriel]

I guess some good English proverbs for that would be “don’t judge a book by its cover,” “two wrongs don’t make a right,” or perhaps “don’t bite the hand that feeds you”

"don’t bite the hand that feeds you" or "He who pays the piper calls the tune" maybe

 

[Happy Skates]

Hey let's have a great week here in the Russian ladies thread filled with peace love and rock and roll. And figure skating too.
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We need another program announcement to lighten the mood! Or better yet - Daniil's yearly start-of-program video!

 

[Scott512]

We need another program announcement to lighten the mood! Or better yet - Daniil's yearly start-of-program video!

Danil coming forward to announce programs would be wonderful and is much needed to say the least. It's pretty obvious whatever competitions there are and each country there's just going to be coaches and skaters and no fans. For the foreseeable future that is
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[Ifwe]

We need another program announcement to lighten the mood! Or better yet - Daniil's yearly start-of-program video!

i thought he is going to announce more programs after aliona but then he disappeared

 

[JazzUp]

We need another program announcement to lighten the mood! Or better yet - Daniil's yearly start-of-program video!

They have an old superstition in Russia that if somebody remembers/mentions your name frequently, you get hiccups - poor Daniil must be in a hiccuping fit for a very-very long time since he's been mentioned 10K times on fso, fsu, gs, [insert any fs forum name here] for ever now

Guess we'll see the 'yearly start-of-program videos' when RusFed finalizes the test skates dates 100% and 1TV will broadcast the announcement.

 

[flanker]

They have an old superstition in Russia that if somebody remembers/mentions your name frequently, you get hiccups - poor Daniil must be in a hiccuping fit for a very-very long time since he's been mentioned 10K times on fso, fsu, gs, [insert any fs forum name here] for ever now

Guess we'll see the 'yearly start-of-program videos' when RusFed finalizes the test skates dates 100% and 1TV will broadcast the announcement.

We have the same superstition.

 

[JazzUp]

Some good news here - Yulia and Vlad - and their 1 month old daughter, Catalina

 

[brakes]

It depends on how that talk about weight,

So many skaters have talked about how they were bullied, shamed, harassed and made fun for weighing "too much", and the lasting damage that it did throughout their lives, I can scarcely list them all here.

Finding a nutritionist to instill healthy eating habits, to build the right muscles and keep an athlete skating well is a wonderful thing.:thumbsup:

Simply telling a skater she weighs too much does not show concern, does not show care, and frankly, doesn't show any particular coaching skill. I'm sure no one would want that

The interviewee claimed any american skating coach, especially male, would lose his job if spoke about weight to his underage female student. No word about harassing, shaming or bullying.
I bet most figure skating coaches don't have nutrionists at their training place, nor have time for providing individual nutrition plans for specific skaters, so it's rather a fantasy argument. They just do what they can to keep athlete injury-free: tell them they need to lose weight, so their bodies could endure the training.
Finally, keeping track of skaters' physical shape is most obviously showing concern and coaching skill.

 

[lopsilceci]

We need another program announcement to lighten the mood! Or better yet - Daniil's yearly start-of-program video!

I'm starting to think we won't see any new announcements or video until august when they're all back at Khrustalny ��

 

[brakes]

https://www.instagram.com/p/B_m1-zSJyQI/

2:00 - there is not a single skater in the world, who can give Eteri such a look after bad skate: "stop bs-ing me, it was pathetic!".
There is such an ultimate fighter and competitor behind that angelic looks!

 

[flanker]

Some good news here - Yulia and Vlad - and their 1 month old daughter, Catalina

Congrats to Yulia and Vlad. Let all three will be healthy

 

[flanker]

https://www.instagram.com/p/B_m1-zSJyQI/

2:00 - there is not a single skater in the world, who can give Eteri such a look after bad skate: "stop bs-ing me, it was pathetic!".
There is such an ultimate fighter and competitor behind that angelic looks!

Beautiful video of a beautiful skater :thumbsup:

 

[GBs mom]

I've seen so little of Sasha's parents I've never seen a big interview with them like Anna's parents. Sasha is a nice girl so we should only surmise that she has nice parents.

Is there a way to quote posts on other goldenskate forums? It's old, but there's a great interview with Sasha's parents referenced on page 86 of Sasha's fanfest.