Senior test skates are month after junior ones. I think having an extra month of training doesn't add any pressure.
So, do you think Alysa Liu should compete in US Juniors, not Seniors this season? She had only skated one international season too.
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I'm more against specifically changing the rules for valieva. The other girls who will be eligible to skate in the Olympics should get to skate at the sr test skates if she does.
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These are totally different cases and stuations. Every junior/novice skater in the US can compete at senior nationals if they qualify for it not just Alysa. Whereas Kamila here is singled out as the only junior who will likely be permitted to attend senior test skates. The other juniors like Daria, Maiia or Adelia are not invited to senior test skates despite them being the same age as Kamila, which in my opinion is unfair treatment.
Just last week RusFed announced that they won't ever make any exceptions for any skater anymore because then every skater wants favourable treatment and now they announced this?
There is no "rules" for test skates. It is not an official event. In fact it's just open training session.
Test skates is not a competition.
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It is not "just" an open training session. It is a mandatory event for skaters unless they are ill. The skaters get judged by judges and officials at Test Skates, they receive a scoring sheet and get feedback on what they should change/improve on.
So US juniors can handle the pressure of competing with seniors, but Russian can't?
At the training sessions at Sambo skaters also receive a scoring sheet and get feedback on what they should change/improve on.
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So US juniors can handle the pressure of competing with seniors, but Russian can't?
The point was not about handling the pressure, it is that in the US any junior can decide to compete as a senior domestically, not just Alysa. In this case it is only one skater given the opportunity. What happens if Daria or Maya feel that they too need to experience the pressure of competing with seniors just in case they may be chosen for the Olympic team? It is unfair that they cannot while the rules (or tradition or whatever we need to call it) have seemingly been changed to accommodate one skater. And it will be even more unfair if it impacts the cup events and allows Kamila to skate at both senior and junior nationals when others who normally would have had the same opportunity from skating in the JGP cannot.
No, there was not a single word about "only one skater given the opportunity" to compete as a senior.
All that Gorshkov said is that Kamila considered to be invited to the senior test skates. No information about national competitions was given.
Maybe your point is not about the pressure, but I answered to the post which was about the pressure.
She won everything last season
Test skates are just test skates, that is hardly a priviledge
It's like Kamila is reigning Junior World Champion and the strongest junior in the World, who has won all of the season's competitions.
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It is not a mandatory event at all. It is there just to help the skaters. All Nina Mozer's junior pairs teams for example chose not to be involved because their skating programmes are not ready, and as that they can't get any kind of a helpful feedback for the actual season. If you want to define it, it is really the closest to the open training season, just with the actual programmes (or with the many hints of them, especially this year)
yess, they really need to stop with favoritism.
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Maybe, or maybe not. But I'm also wondering what is the point of having Kamila at senior test skates. What does she get specifically from this? Will she also be allowed to compete in something that the other juniors won't?
And in that case, why separate her from the other juniors? Even if Kamila is the favorite for the Olympics, shouldn't the other juniors get the same opportunities to compete and get experience, work on their nerves and improve their abilities in preparation for the Olympics?
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She is not the first and she won't be the last reigning junior world champion, neither is she the first to win every competition in a season. Also she won gold but it's not like the other girls were far behind. Wasn't Daria 2nd? If she's gonna be allowed that's fine I guess but they should also allow the other girls with the same eligiblity to go to the senior test skates or just leave them where they belong, in the junior team and the junior test skates. It's unfair to single one person out and give her more opportunities and benefits
Open test skates are a big deal though and for a Fed that has a perception of playing favoritism with certain skaters, allowing 1 skater without explanation to get special rules like getting an extra month of training on her programs is really dumb. Honestly even if they are lying they should at least come out and say that there were circumstances prevented Valieva from being able to attend junior test skates and was allowed to skate at the senior test skates so that she could receive the feedback provided at test skates for her programs.
20 points is an abyss in fs. Valieva is on entirely different level, she is on par with the 3A
RusFed owes you (or any other stranger) nothing. If there were circumstances prevented Valieva from being able to attend junior test skates, it's nobody's business.
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