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I do not see the picture with Rozanov. Link?
2020-21 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating
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Elena in tears after Veronika's FS :sad4:
https://twitter.com/avalaancheee/status/1301976890786414599?s=20
Veronika, Elena and Sergei in the K&C
https://twitter.com/aimelisse_/status/1301965873536806913?s=20
I guess, we will see this duo also at the Russian Cups?
https://twitter.com/avalaancheee/status/1301976890786414599?s=20
Veronika, Elena and Sergei in the K&C
https://twitter.com/aimelisse_/status/1301965873536806913?s=20
I guess, we will see this duo also at the Russian Cups?
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That woman is not Veronika's mom, she is Elena Ilinykh, a former Russian Ice Dancer who now is a coach at Plushenko's rink
You can see Veronika's mother (and younger sister) here https://www.instagram.com/p/CBsEelIqHuw/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link
I know you kid, Mathman, but according to all knowing Wikipedia Jin is indeed one of seven surnames granted by Ming Dynasty emperors to Chinese Jews. (Equivalent to Gold in English and I believe Gracie is Jewish)
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Jews_in_China#Early_record
So hey it’s not completely inconceivable that they could all be related!
Oh oh, I've got it wrong then. I thought the tiny woman in the photo was her mother-I guess it is a co-coach.
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Oh wow, Russia now has figure skating paparazzi!https://www.another site.com/r/FigureSkating/comments/imsc7d/footage_from_todaycaption_this/ - they have something to talk about
https://www.another site.com/r/FigureSkating/comments/imsc7d/footage_from_todaycaption_this/ - they have something to talk about
Maybe Dudakov tries to persuade Rozanov to come back
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I had similar thought
Maybe Dudakov tries to persuade Rozanov to come back
YEs, who knows?
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Oh, I didn't even realize Veronika Zhilina was clearly more than a head shorter than Sofia Akatieva. I wonder how they'll end up in the end. Being short and light should definitely be an advantage when it comes to jumping, and her jumps obviously are extremely good already.
Anyway, Akatieva clearly is well ahead of both Berestovskaya and Zhilina in terms of skating skills, performing ability and all that. Especially Zhilina's FS felt quite strange to me choreo-wise, and it definitely wasn't something she in my opinion would be able to perform in a satisfactory manner. As for Berestovskaya, well... She definitely is expressive, but oftentime the facial expressions don't make sense and her skating skills are extraordinarily weak. However, I still think that just being able to emote will be very useful in the future and I'm sure she'll become better at knowing when she should be expressing what.
When it comes to jumps, Zhilina's improved quite a lot in my opinion, she truly struggled with especially the Lutz her previous couple of seasons but it looks solid here, no issues anywhere else either, I think, and I believe she'll add the 3A eventually. Akatieva struggled and likely isn't as strong of a jumper anyway but she should be able to regain most of her jumping abilities. Berestovskaya's are quite clerly the weakest of the bunch, I don't think she's ever rotated the 4T and the jump height in general is very tiny. Even if she gets her consistency to a good level for the juniors next season, she's the one whose future I'm somewhat concerned with when it comes to jumps, as I believe she'll have some struggles with maintaining them.
That's a major reason she even started her project of training children from 4 years and up, because she's for a long time complained about the basics of the skaters coming to her.
And the point is that it's pretty mean and unnecessary to put down 12-13yo girls for their jumping technique. I haven't seen anyone not appreciate Zhilina's technique - In fact she frequently receives compliments for it. But it's not necessary to put others down at the same time. I'd suggest you to look through your own posts in this thread and see the manner in which you talk about these girls. I hope you could rethink your approach.
Anyway, Akatieva clearly is well ahead of both Berestovskaya and Zhilina in terms of skating skills, performing ability and all that. Especially Zhilina's FS felt quite strange to me choreo-wise, and it definitely wasn't something she in my opinion would be able to perform in a satisfactory manner. As for Berestovskaya, well... She definitely is expressive, but oftentime the facial expressions don't make sense and her skating skills are extraordinarily weak. However, I still think that just being able to emote will be very useful in the future and I'm sure she'll become better at knowing when she should be expressing what.
When it comes to jumps, Zhilina's improved quite a lot in my opinion, she truly struggled with especially the Lutz her previous couple of seasons but it looks solid here, no issues anywhere else either, I think, and I believe she'll add the 3A eventually. Akatieva struggled and likely isn't as strong of a jumper anyway but she should be able to regain most of her jumping abilities. Berestovskaya's are quite clerly the weakest of the bunch, I don't think she's ever rotated the 4T and the jump height in general is very tiny. Even if she gets her consistency to a good level for the juniors next season, she's the one whose future I'm somewhat concerned with when it comes to jumps, as I believe she'll have some struggles with maintaining them.
They work with the technique they have. Veronika has pretty much textbook technique on everything due to having been brought up that way by her mother - As you could tell, Eteri didn't try to change the way she jumped her jumps or anything. It's not Eteri's idea to teach the girls the pre-rotation technique, it's what they come to her with.
That's a major reason she even started her project of training children from 4 years and up, because she's for a long time complained about the basics of the skaters coming to her.
And the point is that it's pretty mean and unnecessary to put down 12-13yo girls for their jumping technique. I haven't seen anyone not appreciate Zhilina's technique - In fact she frequently receives compliments for it. But it's not necessary to put others down at the same time. I'd suggest you to look through your own posts in this thread and see the manner in which you talk about these girls. I hope you could rethink your approach.
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Although I agree with the fact that this poster is usually not very delicate, when most posters talk about technique it’s more of a criticism to the coach than to the skater. The skater learned it from the coach (current coach or previous coach).
When I criticize technique, it’s usually because the skater is so good and talented that I feel like “wow, imagine this person with a good technique, it would be awesome”. Good technique makes the jumps more aesthetically pleasing to watch, and good technique is harder to learn and to use in practice. I’m a technician, I love technique. Figure skating is not like soccer, where technique is not necessary to score points. There are rules, there are textbooks about technique, and good technique should be more rewarded than poor technique in scores. It’s the fair thing to do.
The problem is that when we start acting like “there are 10000 possible techniques”, there’s no such thing as prerrotation and underrotation, lutz edge is not important, judging becomes unfair and figure skating starts to become like soccer - messy, unfair and ugly.
The way things are going, competitions will become like “go and jump anything that looks like 3 revolutions, judges don’t know how to count anyway, the name of the jump is not important, jump the same way for every jump we put in the program (judges don’t know the difference between jumps), if it’s more than 2 revolutions then it’s 3, if it’s more than 3 revolutions than it’s 4”. The public doesn’t understand technique, go and do whatever you feel like doing, as long as it’s entertaining, or be a jump machine that judges and the public will forgive your lack of interpretation.
I feel like for some people here rules are not important.
Maybe for these people, there should be a new sport - “free skating”. Do whatever you want to on the ice, and the judges will judge according to their personal preference.
Not really, if you judge by the photo from the victory ceremony, then Sofia was the only one in skates and this significantly increased her height against the other two girls. You can see it here https://www.instagram.com/p/CEwCm7MozTs/
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Sofia was the only girl on her skates during that photo, that’s why she was much taller.
More like Rozanov asked if he can come back and Dudakov explained why it's impossible...Maybe Dudakov tries to persuade Rozanov to come back
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Thanks.
Yes!
yes!
if young Sergei was so great the past couple years at TT why didn't he improve the technique you always complain about? He worked with all these kids. Gotcha!
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