2020-21 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

[eliana]

BTW for me became clear Eteri is afraid of Plushenko school's succes.

And I believe the same! Plushy is building his own skating rinks. Soon he will have a significant increase in the girls who will come to skate with him. I think Eteri is terrified that she will no longer have a monopoly in this discipline

 

[plushyfan]

Than any explanation is useless (which was expected of course)

and vica versa.. Every Eteri uber will believe what Eteri wants to suggest. But honestly who cares? Is Alinaa competitor? Do you think she will be? Do you really believe she will have chance to beat the quadsters? No one really believe it if you read the reactions of the prominent experts in Russia. And in this matter not every prominent person are in Eteri's side.

 

[plushyfan]

BTW for me became clear Eteri is afraid of Plushenko school's succes.

And I believe the same! Plushy is building his own skating rinks. Soon he will have a significant increase in the girls who will come to skate with him. I think Eteri is terrified that she will no longer have a monopoly in this discipline

True.

 

[flanker]

and vica versa.. Every Eteri uber will believe what Eteri wants to suggest. But honestly who cares? Is Alinaa competitor? Do you think she will be? Do you really believe she will have chance to beat the quadsters? No one really believe it if you read the reactions of the prominent experts in Russia. And in this matter not every prominent person are in Eteri's side.

How did we get from Eteri vs. Plushy to "Alina is gone" talk?

 

[ancientpeas]

Please do not call other users liars.

Lets keep it civil.

 

[Pantsu]

«Были ли списки нон грата? Ну, не то чтобы (вздыхает)."
“Were there non grata lists? Well, not that (sighs). "

Document

www.gazeta.ru

-Были ли у вас реально списки спортсменок non grata о которых Этери Георгиевна писала в Instagram
- Ну не то, чтобы…
-Did you really have lists of non grata athletes about whom Eteri Georgievna wrote on Instagram
- Well, not that ...

Алена Косторная рассказала об обиде на Тутберидзе и уходе к Плющенко

Чемпионка Европы 2020 года по фигурному катанию представила короткую программу на контрольных прокатах сборной России, после чего откровенно рассказала... РИА Новости Спорт, 12.09.2020

rsport.ria.ru

On sport24 it is the same. The bold part is a dead giveaway. No wonder they decided to "fix" it
Google doesn't translate it properly and my English is limited

Косторная — о расставании с Тутберидзе: «Встреться глаза в глаза, если неймется. Посты в инстаграме — это обидно» - 12 сентября 2020 - Sport24

Российская фигуристка Алена Косторная рассказала о своем переходе из группы тренера Этери Тутберидзе к Евгению Плющенко.

sport24.ru

I didn't bother to check the rest of the interview

 

[Decoder]

Today 's joke of the day (for me): Eteri is afraid of Plushenko school's succes.

 

[nussnacker]

and vica versa.. Every Eteri uber will believe what Eteri wants to suggest. But honestly who cares? Is Alinaa competitor? Do you think she will be? Do you really believe she will have chance to beat the quadsters? No one really believe it if you read the reactions of the prominent experts in Russia. And in this matter not every prominent person are in Eteri's side.

Oh, that “non competitive skater“, “not a quadster”, who Plushenko is desperately trying to poach. Aha. Yup.

 

[flanker]

Today 's joke of the day (for me): Eteri is afraid of Plushenko school's succes.

Be careful, Plushy's headhunting success is undeniable

 

[plushyfan]

I forgot it..if anybody wants to seduce an OG champion, incredible popular skater as Alina to train his own school she will invite with that message? Truly? With that simple message on IG...hmm .

 

[Baron Vladimir]

Well what I understand:

-Yana Rudkovskaya invited Zagitova to the opening of their new ice rink. They had some chats with together before because Yana wanted to catch her for their shows. They have good relationship. Alina wrote to her at first.


id I miss something? BTW for me became clear Eteri is afraid of Plushenko school's succes.

That is also clear this will be one of the the greatest fights among their schools in figure skating history.

And I believe the same! Plushy is building his own skating rinks. Soon he will have a significant increase in the girls who will come to skate with him. I think Eteri is terrified that she will no longer have a monopoly in this discipline

But there is no logic in those types of statements. I mean her junior student just won first Russian cup by a big margin. So she has the best students for years to come. Why she should be afraid of Plushenko? Unless Rudovskaya lures all her junior students to skate in their team, that statement just has no any evidence in reality/in what is actually happening on ice. Not to say that Eteri just got an award for the best coach in the world by ISU itself, she really doesnt need any other types of promotions after that.

 

[ancientpeas]

I think this is what happens when there is not enough actual competition and skating and too much gossip, innuendo and rumour mongering.


Seriously now. Treat each other respectfully.

No one owns a certain skater. It's not indentured servitude. A coach can talk to a skater. A skater can say yes or no. Plushenko's wife apparently talked to Alina and Alina said no. Negations happen all the time in business. There are actually people called headhunters who try to get talent to change companies all the time. It's normal.

Try to see it as what it is: a business. It's not a marriage. No one is betraying anyone else by exploring their options.

 

[macy]

«Были ли списки нон грата? Ну, не то чтобы (вздыхает)."
“Were there non grata lists? Well, not that (sighs). "

Document

www.gazeta.ru

-Были ли у вас реально списки спортсменок non grata о которых Этери Георгиевна писала в Instagram
- Ну не то, чтобы…
-Did you really have lists of non grata athletes about whom Eteri Georgievna wrote on Instagram
- Well, not that ...

Алена Косторная рассказала об обиде на Тутберидзе и уходе к Плющенко

Чемпионка Европы 2020 года по фигурному катанию представила короткую программу на контрольных прокатах сборной России, после чего откровенно рассказала... РИА Новости Спорт, 12.09.2020

rsport.ria.ru

On sport24 it is the same. The bold part is a dead giveaway. No wonder they decided to "fix" it
Google doesn't translate it properly and my English is limited

Косторная — о расставании с Тутберидзе: «Встреться глаза в глаза, если неймется. Посты в инстаграме — это обидно» - 12 сентября 2020 - Sport24

Российская фигуристка Алена Косторная рассказала о своем переходе из группы тренера Этери Тутберидзе к Евгению Плющенко.

sport24.ru

I didn't bother to check the rest of the interview

thanks for sharing these. the translations of what she is saying in all four of the sources is essentially the same, for the part i quoted. i didn't read the rest either.

 

[plushyfan]

they didn't. Yana quoting a chapter that says exactly that, funnily enough.

Oh, that “non competitive skater“, “not a quadster”, who Plushenko is desperately trying to poach. Aha. Yup.

Sorry, I undertsand you feeling.

I just wanted to say Sahsa Trusova and Aliona is much more promising right now. That is much more possible Alina will be a very popular , beautiful, skater who is welcomed on every show.This is the most likely now. If she would have started her training in this season I would have different opinion. Sorry again.

 

[nussnacker]

I think this is what happens when there is not enough actual competition and skating and too much gossip, innuendo and rumour mongering.


Seriously now. Treat each other respectfully.

No one owns a certain skater. It's not indentured servitude. A coach can talk to a skater. A skater can say yes or no. Plushenko's wife apparently talked to Alina and Alina said no. Negations happen all the time in business. There are actually people called headhunters who try to get talent to change companies all the time. It's normal.

Try to see it as what it is: a business. It's not a marriage. No one is betraying anyone else by exploring their options.

well then if it's completely normal, it should be easy to admit that they're actively headhunting skaters from one particular school and there would be no need to keep asserting that skaters all asked him first, they all came to him, he never made any offers to anyone.

 

[flanker]

I forgot it..if anybody wants to seduce an OG champion, incredible popular skater as Alina to train his own school she will invite with that message? Truly? With that simple message on IG...hmm .

Remember, briber never uses the word bribery (just an example). Actually they are very creative in finding surrogate words (tehre were some interesting cases here with leaked eavesdropping. here, to the amusement of the whole nation. "Five in czech (currency) on the table" was still too obvious, then there were words like magazines, carps, baskets.

Come to us, Alina, we wanna see you and you will see how great our facility is, it's nothing less than a spam, rather a bussiness proposal (that's why I don't take "private conversation", that's ridiculous). BY ALina's response, BTW, it is obvious that Alina herself took that as an invitation to train with them, which is obvious tom anyone apart from those who are in love with Plushenko.

 

[trkvy]

I forgot it..if anybody wants to seduce an OG champion, incredible popular skater as Alina to train his own school she will invite with that message? Truly? With that simple message on IG...hmm .

Message is just material evidence everyone can see. The rest of the poaching activities are just can't be recorded.

 

[brakes]

Umm, if Eteri and company broke the law that does matter way more than if Plushenko lied in an interview saying he's not trying to lure skaters away unless what he said also violates Russian law.

Not for me. Human integrity and honesty counts for more to me than paragraphs.

 

[nussnacker]

where're all technical issues when we need them. Goldenskate, I think you need to move forum again, like right now.

 

[flanker]

I think this is what happens when there is not enough actual competition and skating and too much gossip, innuendo and rumour mongering.


Seriously now. Treat each other respectfully.

No one owns a certain skater. It's not indentured servitude. A coach can talk to a skater. A skater can say yes or no. Plushenko's wife apparently talked to Alina and Alina said no. Negations happen all the time in business. There are actually people called headhunters who try to get talent to change companies all the time. It's normal.

Try to see it as what it is: a business. It's not a marriage. No one is betraying anyone else by exploring their options.

I've already written I have absolutely no problem Plushy('s wife) has an interest for Alina, whether for her competitive abilities or for her name as a part of a bussiness plan. That's normal. I just laugh at those awkward attempts to deny the obvious true nature of that wooing and the undeniable contradiction between the claims "we don't lure anyone" and obvious luring attempt. It's Pluhenko to me here who could get his his face back if he would openly admit "we tried to persuade Alina to train with us but she refused politely" instead of "nonono, that was a misunderstanding, we just wanted Alina to see how clean floors we have in our facility".