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That's the part that seems questionable to me. Do people believe that Plushenko can call up the CEO of Nike and say, hey, how about giving my skater a million dollar endorsement contract?

Maybe he can provide skaters with opportunities to perform in shows that he himself produces. Still, I don't think of Plushenko as a financial or PR genius, however much money his wife has. Isn't Alina Zagitova the #1 Russian skater in terms of publicity and endorsement opportunities?

Well both Trusova and Kostornaia got new sponsors or more sponsors after moving to Plushenko and it was noted on here that the brand that Kostornaia is tied to has ties to Plushenko and that her first post announcing her sponsor initially had Plushenko partially cut out of the picture, she took it down and replaced with a photo of a crystal clear picture of Plushenko behind her.
 
Again, realistically speaking, why would someone complain about conditions which makes her GP and European champion. There is no any logic in that.
It could be 1. the rink gets more crowded (after Rozanov left more kids to be coached together with seniors) 2. could be a near miss that made her more aware of the safety issue 3. after the lockdown a less crowded space was needed to restore the jumps etc.

There could be reasons and we never know. What I know is -
1. it's okay for Aliona, a training participant, to spot a safety issue and ask for a better/safer training environment
2. it's understandable that TT has practical difficulties to accommodate such need (if they have enough ice space and coaches why they should do that at first place)
3. TT should communicate with their students in a respectful way regardless that student is a big champion or some unknown junior. And someone can survive in such an abusive environment doesn't mean others have too.
 
Can't wait for Stage Two. What we know so far is that Trusova, Medvedeva, Valieva and Konstantinova will be there. At least that's what I've heard. I wonder what other high level skaters will be added? What we know now is that the stages going forward will be a lot tougher than stage one.

I am not sure if RusFed will go with the usual Russian Cup system. Usually the top ten get points 18-16-14-12-10-8-6-4-2-1.
If so, right now we have from stage one:

Shcherbakova 18
Frolova 16
Khromykh 14
Talalaykina 12
Sultanmagomedova 10
and I don't think the others below that, although they got points, will be contenders for qualifying to RusNats.

It's probably safe to say that you probably need to be in the top five to qualify for RusNats.
 
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I believe in Misha 2.0 but this was just at test skates. His problem under the old team was the lack of consistency in competition.
His number one problem was popping jumps which didn't have ideal takeoff.
In the FS he rotated and went with 3 jumps that I think he would have popped under his old coach.

His choreography is also better imo. Suits him and his personality more (though wish we could see nightmare before Christmas version 2).
 
Thriving under Mishin? I don't think so.

And yeah it looks bad for a coach if they can't coach their youngsters into elite skaters and champions but instead have to shall I say purchase them from someone else already ready made. Plushie is doing this perfectly making a name for himself as a coach recruiting top talent already made skaters from the best coach in the world. It will be interesting to see if he still continues to do that with the ladies discipline.

You pose an interesting question and obviously they are very touchy about having their skaters that they took from nothing to greatness poached. But don't worry there are still Anna KV Dasha Maya and Sofia on the conveyor belt of TT for PA to choose from. ;)
And if someone ever poaches Titova away from Plushenko I better not hear one goddamn complaint about it!

Why don't kids go to Davydov? He's one of the top coaches in Russia right now. He's in Moscow as well so it's not like you have to change your life like it would be to go to St Petersburg.

As for Alina she is not an attention seeker she gets attention on her dime when she's doing promotion or appearances or advertisements. Or winning gold silver or bronze medals.

Just reading this one page makes me want to have a beer or two. ;)

For me, that is very interesting how you forgot about every bad actions of Tutberidze, Shelepen, Lipnitskaya, Medvedeva, etc. She lied about them. She is the best coach right now but while she built this image she left behind a few "corpses".
 
It's too soon to say FF.

You can believe what you want. Test skates is basically a practice session dressed up. Ciao.
have you ever seen Kolyada on practice? With Valentina he popped an insane amount on practice, its actually remarkable that he was anywhere near as good as he was. His practices were even worse than his competitions half the time. He needs the phycological help to succeed, and Mishin is the best Russian coach to offer this.

EDIT: - I can't even remember how we got on the topic of Kolyada in Ladies figure skating. But here is an interesting interview from his coach at the time: https://fs-gossips.com/valentina-chebotareva-big-sport-shouldnt-start-too-early/

when she said "He jumps it perfectly in practice" what really usually happens is at the 6th/7th attempt he jumps it perfectly (at least at competition practices)
 
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And Aliona was a mediocre Junior at 13 and finish 17th in Russian Junior Nationals then she came to EG and TT and a few months later she was third in Russian senior Nationals at 14. Then goes on to be the best skater in the world. Gee I wondered how that happened. ;) I'm glad she's such a great and special skater and that better continue at PA. I want no regression in aliona this season.
Yes. Kostornaya is the one who was really at the bottom and got good results faster than anyone else. She wasn't even on jgp entries before the last 2 or 3 jgps. She "miraculously" got in after that domestic comp where she did very well.
Despite that, some will speak like Eteri had not work to do with her. Like she was a perfectly developped skater who was at the top when she went to Tutberidze.
 
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What I like about Plushenko is he's giving his fellow coaches recognitions - some 20-ish coach like Mikhailov is listed as Sasha's second coach, having spotlight durning test skates :ROFLMAO: .

During the test skates Plushenko was listed and announced as the only coach of Kostornaia and Trusova. No Mikhailov or Rozanov were even mentioned.

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During the test skates Plushenko was listed and announced as the only coach of Kostornaia and Trusova. No Mikhailov or Rozanov were even mentioned.

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You know, you're so anti-Plusenko that I don't give you any credit! He is not responsible for what the TV writes on the screen. Evgheni respects every employee and does everything to make everyone happy! Otherwise no one would stay there! Please stop with these comments that have no place here ...
 
have you ever seen Kolyada on practice? With Valentina he popped an insane amount on practice, its actually remarkable that he was anywhere near as good as he was. His practices were even worse than his competitions half the time. He needs the phycological help to succeed, and Mishin is the best Russian coach to offer this.

EDIT: - I can't even remember how we got on the topic of Kolyada in Ladies figure skating. But here is an interesting interview from his coach at the time: https://fs-gossips.com/valentina-chebotareva-big-sport-shouldnt-start-too-early/

when she said "He jumps it perfectly in practice" what really usually happens is at the 6th/7th attempt he jumps it perfectly (at least at competition practices)
Good points. Better practices obviously increase the chances for the skater to have better performances. Did Stasya have the same problem with this coach? Have to bring in a Russian lady Of course in RLT.

And does anyone know how Stasya is doing at PA?
 
TV writes on the screen information received from coaching teams. It includes music choice and coaches' names. So nobody but Plushenko is responsible for that.
You know, I read your comments. You're clearly anti-plusenko. Every man has a good part, a bad part. It is clear that you only see what is bad about plusenko, even if the good parts are much more. He respects his colleagues even if some of his critics do not believe so
 
Yes. Kostornaya is the one who was really at the bottom and got good results faster than anyone else. She wasn't even on jgp entries before the last 2 or 3 jgps. She "miraculously" got in after that domestic comp where she did very well.
Despite that, some will speak like Eteri had not work to do with her. Like she was a perfectly developped skater who was at the top when she went to Tutberidze.
When you combine great coaching with underdeveloped skating the result is Aliona Kostornia. Maybe her wonderful skating skills were there and just unrefined are underdeveloped and EG and TT got it all out of Alena.
 
Maybe her wonderful skating skills were there and just unrefined are underdeveloped and EG and TT got it all out of Alena.
I wouldn't say SS, rather the confidence (again true for all Eteri girls) and consistency and tech content (that people glaze over for a requirement that rockets you in the eyes of the judges).
 
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For me, that is very interesting how you forgot about every bad actions of Tutberidze, Shelepen, Lipnitskaya, Medvedeva, etc. She lied about them. She is the best coach right now but while she built this image she left behind a few "corpses".
And Nastya T left PA in tears to humilated by her former coach for the greatest Russian figure skater of all time.. How could he do that to a fragile 15 year old girl? The skaters you mentioned left EG of their own will and believed we're better situations for their career and life. EG was angry
after taking them from scratch and making them great and then they leave. I include Sasha and aliona as well. EG is obviously very emotional as plushenko is. I wish EG would learn to take a deep breath and not react the way she has in being hurt when her stars who she took from nothing or mediocrity to greatness leave. But humans aren't perfect and neither is Eteri. It's a flaw of hers that will be hard to change.
 
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