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Titova's program .. https://www.instagram.com/p/CFjJeX7KAb9/ she skated really well she is just 11 but I'm bored the Malade...
Giving that song to a eleven year old is probably the most ridiculous thing I‘ve seen all day. Naturally, there was zero expression in that program. (not to mention all those nano second spirals - come on, even in Daniil‘s programs they‘re held longer than that!) Wasn‘t she also the one who was made to skate to Schindler‘s List last year? I don‘t blame Sofia for all of that, of course. She can only work with the choreography she‘s being given. And technically, she did a great job, very focused, good 3-3. But I‘m sorry, the program left me feeling so cold that I kept wishing they‘d focus on Sasha so that I could see what quad she was training...
 
I dislike seeing 11-14 year olds being given overly melancholic music in general. It's the only time of their skating career when they'll be able to skate to 'Kung Fu Panda' or 'Harry Potter' before 'growing out' of such music, why pick those sad classical pieces or dramatic songs instead?
 
He's got a pretty darn good crew doesn't he? We never say hear anything about him or his team. Doesn't he have that Samo girl too? This Sergei has some girls someone else might be recruiting soon. 😜
Had Tarusina as his star skater, but she had her career derailed by the knee injuries suffered during the 2016 bus accident and retired due to that a year ago as well.

Lately the big future names have been Samodelkina and Berestovskaya, especially Samodelkina even though I guess Berestovskaya's at the moment much better known. Then with Frolova it's become quite a significant team. The main weakness for the group seems to be skating skills.
 
So according to the flanker's info on the first page, there are just three confirmed names so far for the 2nd stage of the Russian cup? Trusova, Medvedeva and Valieva? It's like everyone else is scared of this lineup (there are more names in each following stage)... :LOL:
There were some announcements, but I'm waiting with the update till there will be the final list (I don't wanna to redo that three or four times like the last time ;) ).
 
There were some announcements, but I'm waiting with the update till there will be the final list (I don't wanna to redo that three or four times like the last time ;) ).
Out of curiosity, who else was announced? I remember hearing about Konstantinova but nobody else. :unsure:
 
Giving that song to a eleven year old is probably the most ridiculous thing I‘ve seen all day. Naturally, there was zero expression in that program. (not to mention all those nano second spirals - come on, even in Daniil‘s programs they‘re held longer than that!) Wasn‘t she also the one who was made to skate to Schindler‘s List last year? I don‘t blame Sofia for all of that, of course. She can only work with the choreography she‘s being given. And technically, she did a great job, very focused, good 3-3. But I‘m sorry, the program left me feeling so cold that I kept wishing they‘d focus on Sasha so that I could see what quad she was training...
i think it was 4lo the entry looked the same as her 3lo
 
Oh please, nobody is treating skaters like a property. If that is a case Alyona wouldn't be allowed to leave, and certainly not outside the transfer window. Which is btw a normal regulation in every sport, not a hostage situation. They are actualy making deals in 'benefit of individuals/skaters' and against the sport rules.

Are there "transfer windows" in other skating federations? I don't know of any:scratch2:. And there are no rules in the other sports I follow dictating in what time frame an athlete can leave a team or a coach. But those are the ones I know. :)

ETA: And to be clear, I mean internally within a fed, not leaving to represent another country, which of course is subject to different rules.
 
Are there "transfer windows" in other skating federations? I don't know of any:scratch2:. And there are no rules in the other sports I follow dictating in what time frame an athlete can leave a team or a coach. But those are the ones I know. :)

ETA: And to be clear, I mean internally within a fed, not leaving to represent another country, which of course is subject to different rules.
I mean, there are in many of other sports which are club/team coaching related. Eteri is not a private coach, she is one part of the whole school. Athletes can leave the club/team whenever they want, but by paying them money based on the contract they both agreed to before the transfer. You can of course choose what your 'contract' will be, to pay personally every hour of a training for whatever schedule you choose, to try out a month of training similar to a skating camp, or full year coaching. In later cases athletes should be there (paying) for the whole season and leave only in a period between two seasons (when transfer window is open, like in a soccer for example). Those rules and contracts exist to prevent clubs/teams with more money 'taking' everything they can bye from the others. And to prevent athletes who are fully coached by one team to play for another. It is a fundamental part of the 'fair play'. Now, people who know more about Russian skating system can give you a better answer, i was speaking from the point of the world of sports in general.
 
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There might be a bonus for that kind of music. Maybe judges automatically see you as an artistic skater when you skate on that kind of song even if you're all jumps.
I wonder if Lara Fabian knows that she's very popular in Russian FS (+Celine Dion with ne me quitte pas). At least they can use other songs like "immortelle" or "j'y crois encore".
 
For those who were interested about Anna's interviews at Syzran:

In the competition thread there were also some questions about Daria Sadkova, some can be found here - of course it is a fan channel and the english subtitles are "google-like", but you get the basic info (talk about Sadkova starts at about 2:00):
 
Had Tarusina as his star skater, but she had her career derailed by the knee injuries suffered during the 2016 bus accident and retired due to that a year ago as well.

Lately the big future names have been Samodelkina and Berestovskaya, especially Samodelkina even though I guess Berestovskaya's at the moment much better known. Then with Frolova it's become quite a significant team. The main weakness for the group seems to be skating skills.
He is such a great up-and-coming ladies team. Too bad about Anna getting hurt in that bus accident four years ago. It changed everything for her life and career. Sad.
 
I mean, there are in many of other sports which are club/team coaching related. Eteri is not a private coach, she is one part of the whole school. Athletes can leave the club/team whenever they want, but by paying them money based on the contract they both agreed to before the transfer. You can of course choose what your 'contract' will be, to pay personally every hour of a training for whatever schedule you choose, to try out a month of training similar to a skating camp, or full year coaching. In later cases athletes should be there (paying) for the whole season and leave only in a period between two seasons (when transfer window is open, like in a soccer for example). Those rules and contracts exist to prevent clubs/teams with more money 'taking' everything they can bye from the others. And to prevent athletes who are fully coached by one team to play for another. It is a fundamental part of the 'fair play'. Now, people who know more about Russian skating system can give you a better answer, i was speaking from the point of the world of sports in general.
Interesting.

in US professional sports, the argument at one point was that athletes should be bound to the team that “raised them up” or that their contracts prevented them from leaving without their first team’s permission. That thinking has been pretty much rejected here legally, and also “morally“. Nothing now prevents an athlete from going where they choose.

A pro athlete is bound by a contract, but the pro athlete is being paid. I don’t consider subsidized coaching as “payment”, but that’s just me. So if that’s the argument, I can see the basis even if I don’t agree with it. If someone from a club was actually giving these girls cold hard cash, I can see restricting their movements. Otherwise, let the skaters skate where they want and with whom they want. Better for the clubs, the coaches, and most of all, the skaters(y)
 
Interesting.

in US professional sports, the argument at one point was that athletes should be bound to the team that “raised them up” or that their contracts prevented them from leaving without their first team’s permission. That thinking has been pretty much rejected here legally, and also “morally“. Nothing now prevents an athlete from going where they choose.

A pro athlete is bound by a contract, but the pro athlete is being paid. I don’t consider subsidized coaching as “payment”, but that’s just me. So if that’s the argument, I can see the basis even if I don’t agree with it. If someone from a club was actually giving these girls cold hard cash, I can see restricting their movements. Otherwise, let the skaters skate where they want and with whom t
When i said world of sports i meant US too. I have a prety good knowledge how things are functioning in the NBA for example. I was not talking from the individual athletes point of view and their money, but from what is a 'fair play' of any sport point of view.
 
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Out of curiosity, who else was announced? I remember hearing about Konstantinova but nobody else. :unsure:
Yes, I also heard of Konstantinova a while ago.

Anyway, surely we will see some interesting names there. There are still the likes of Sinitsyna, Usacheva, Tarakanova, Nugumanova, Gubanova, Tsibinova, Sakhanovich, Shulskaya. And they all can't wait 'til the final two or three stages can they? I hope to see them all very soon.

And I also would love to see Leonova again. Is that even possible? Is she still skating?
 
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