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Does anyone know the name of the Zhilina sisters' mother? I'm curious about her skating background. Is she from Arkhangelsk originally or just moved there later?
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The name's Lyudmila Alferova and the Arkhangelsk's team's name is Zvezdochka (Little star), but that's all I know.
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Lyudmila Zhilina.
Плющенко показал тройной аксель своей воспитанницы
Тренер сборной России, олимпийский чемпион Евгений Плющенко показал результаты своих первых тренировок на льду после открытия федеральных баз подготовки спортсменов. Спортсмены...
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Thanks! I knew Lyudmila Alferova is now a coach at AoP, but didn't know she is the sisters' mother. Do married women usually keep their original surnames or take their husband's surname in Russia?Lyudmila Zhilina.
Плющенко показал тройной аксель своей воспитанницы
Тренер сборной России, олимпийский чемпион Евгений Плющенко показал результаты своих первых тренировок на льду после открытия федеральных баз подготовки спортсменов. Спортсмены...m.sportsdaily.ru
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According to this her name is Lyudmila Nikolaevna Alferova.
I really do not know since I am not Russian .
Zhilina Sisters will probably be the 2nd pair of sisters to attempt 3A in competition after the Asada sisters.
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I think that the point here isn't to suggest that Daria will be like that, only to point out that a positive assessment of an environment is not necessarily an indicator that it wasn't abusive. Many students say good things about abusive coaches in all sports so without more information which we do not have we cannot make informed opinions about the environment (and therefore, we probably shouldn't make any at all)
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Stanislava posted a short clip of one of her programs to Seven Nation Army (video is third on the reel)
Don't tell me about inconsistency, talent, unfair judging or whatever.
I adore this woman.
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She talked about it a while ago. She basically said, it can be a good athlete, but sometimes she can feel that it won’t work out, so she would reject them (it wasn’t about Zhilina, just in general).
Also, looks like Plushenko has made a pretty sweet offer, which is really impossible to reject: mom gets a job in Moscow, so the family can finally reunite, work with the same coach for Veronika continues, while both sisters train together, so she can both work and see them train at the same time -> pretty much no parent can say no to that, especially considering the long distance that they used to do, and that Eteri wasn’t going to offer her a coaching job + Veronika got a sponsorship on top of everything.
I think it’s safe to say, Plushenko actually made a big favor for their family, it’s a really good help and improves their situation a ton. Smart move on his part too: he gets a good coach, and two talented skaters.
Huh, I guess I didn't realize their family was split up like that. So I'm guessing the girls' dad was in Moscow with Veronika while their mom and Alena were back in Arkhangelsk?
Either way, it's great that they're all back together now. Plush giving their mom a coaching job really did help them a lot!
To me i've always thought we don't have enough information to judge what goes behind the curtain, outside the state propaganda where they paint all coaches as second mother basically, or the hate channels where it's all wrong and bad no matter what.
Mie Hamada was allegedly a very abusive coach, to the point Nobunari Oda sued her (in Russia wouldn't be allowed anyway) but on camera she always looked a charming figure. You never know.
I think only the people who worked with her know how it is to train there every day, how sustainable in the long term. So is she an angel or a demon? we don't know, we can only discuss what these skaters put on the ice, whether we like it or not.
For instance Anna Tsareva has always looked a very strict person, but i've to say i liked the work with Pogorilaya, and i'm liking what she is doing now with Zakharova.
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The money and sponsorship promises mattered more to their parents ... too bad the federation lost female skaters who would have been eligible for the 2026 national team.
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What makes this thread unreadable is the constant gaslighting from people like you wherein the lack of 100% unfailing endorsement of a person is a mark against said person’s character and makes all those who don’t fall lockstep behind certain figures the enemy hellbent on destruction of the person. Your lack of nuance and discernment is noted but that isn’t going to prevent me from finding both good and bad in all coaching camps across Russia, and in other countries, including Dear Eteri Georgevina.Someone expresses a negative opinion about that "environment" -> reaction: this is not the fanfest therefore negative opinions are completely OK.
Someone expresses a positive opinion or quotes postitive mention of somebody else -> reaction: that actually doesn't prove anything... they can be victims... unhealthy... martyr complex... blahblah... actually we shouldn't make opinions about the environment at all...
I like how this "is not necessarily an indicator that it wasn't abusive" and all the countless variants of the reactions to anything positive about Eteri's team actually very imperfectly try to hide the deep down faith it actually is abusive. Not interested in twisted logic. I am really curious if there will be a case when someone would make here a positive comment or quotes of positive comment (of a current or former athlete) about Eteri's team work and "environment" without twenty hornets immediately stinging, twisting everything into the exact opposite and then blaming people for "being defensive".
I already told you, go and settle a thread where you can release your fantasy about the abusiveness of the Eteri's team (and exclusively her team, positive comments about iother teams never face a fraction of aggressivity those ones do) off the chain. This very badly hidden hate truly makes this thread unreadable sometimes.
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Yes, I agree we will never know what goes on behind the scenes in these training groups.
I think that is frustrating for many fans since a lot of us seem to care for these athletes and want the best for them.
On top of that I think (hope) most people care for the well being and safety of all children. No child deserves to be abused.
At this point we don’t know if there is abuse going on in these training groups, including that of Eteri.
Anna is scary skinny. She looks naturally skinny taken one step further. Hopefully that is not the case. I mustn't be the only one who thinks this way.
Alina said to "keep your mouth shut" towards food. They shouldn't be saying things that make their coach look bad in public, but they must be thinking about it in an unhealthy way for it to come out that way.
Alina said to "keep your mouth shut" towards food. They shouldn't be saying things that make their coach look bad in public, but they must be thinking about it in an unhealthy way for it to come out that way.
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I used to think Anya was unnaturally skinny however her growth in the off-season makes me think this is just her natural figure. She seems quite healthy, at least in outward appearance.
Aliona was asked about diet once and she said that she watched her diet but did not have to be so picky because she has a quick metabolism. Zhenya with Orser was very specific about her diet as well. We can expect athletes, especially in those sports where injuries compound with weight, would be careful with their diets and weight and I don’t know if it’s very helpful to suggest that every individual who mentions they must watch their weight and diet is suffering from an eating disorder or has an unhealthy relationship with their diet. Simply their lifestyle demands a stricter regiment.
Shcherbakova has been asked before about her nutrition:
Анна Щербакова: «Тренеры знают, что я не питаюсь только салатиками. Меня никогда жестко не ограничивали в еде»
Анна Щербакова: «Тренеры знают, что я не питаюсь только салатиками. Меня никогда жестко не ограничивали в еде» - Фигурное катание на Sports.ru
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Allowed by whom? I live in Russia for 50 years and this is the first time I hear that I need some kind of permition to sue somebody. You know so much about Russia, how long did you live there?
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