What sensible parent would want to associate their child to a person with the morals, ethics and behaviour of Eteri and everything she stands for?
I think they are worded vaguely on purpose.
The we'd all go Rage Against The Machine....
I'm sorry, but ever since a few prominant skaters signed up for the Plushenko Academy, your posts -- once informative --have turned more and more into incoherent raving.
That's why Americans have very different taste when it comes to figure skating. They love the Mariah Bell smile. And that's ok, I love Mariah too. But I wouldn't give her extra credit for it.Smile, that's very wide problem and cause of big cultural incomprehension. We, for instance, are not used to smile without a cause, people who constantly smile are either considered stupid or unhonest. We smile to a friend or a sympathetic people, but not as a general custom . Many considered us unfriendly or even hostile, which is not the case, smile is something like a reward.
In art or activities like figure skating it is similar and I also can recognize many more expressions or moods in the face of a skater than smile/not smile
I have to agree to that.I'm sorry, but ever since a few prominant skaters signed up for the Plushenko Academy, your posts -- once informative --have turned more and more into incoherent raving.
I mean I've preferred Dasha to Kamila ever since they were novices, even though Dasha was wildly inconsistent and only beat Kami once in total. I loved Kami's SP, but I just felt that Dasha's skating was full of emotions.
How's it with the rest of Europe, are they closer to the American taste or something different entirely? Former Eastern bloc countries might be closer culturally to Russian, but I wonder about Scandinavia and Germany. France is either American or kooky experimental (based on my impression from P/C and Aymoz).
I never said or implied that one has to like every program his favourite skater has (and I myself was critical to particular programs in the past), I just see this current supercritical avalanche generally as much more caused by completely other preferences than the artistic ones. And even if some program is not the best, hey, it's impossible to satisfy everyone all the time, people like to forget that. Even the best writers have the right to write a weaker book (or weaker in someone's opinion), and this can be applied to musicians, painters etc. That's not the reason to call "why and how did you do that, change that before it's too late" etc.
). What makes me interested in program is not primarily the topic of the program (angel, vampire, bird, snake), but how naturally the skater moves and executes the elements (that also comes from the fact the team is with the skaters all the time, so while many people call for external choreographers, I don't like the idea much, they would rarely bge able to use the skater's full potential). I see one of the powers of Eteri's team precisely in the ability to recognize which movements fit the particular skater and I don't see this violated by Kamila's program, the exact opposite, it's the dance of flexibility (which can be connected with the reptiles I guess) that is also highly aesthetical.
I'm afraid that evaluating programs by the "amount of emotions" can be very deceptive.
You know, some people are just going to prefer certain skaters to others. I feel like Dasha's movements exude emotion and really bring out the drama of the program. There are people who probably think she's blank faced and empty. Does that make me wrong or them right? No, but I am simply stating the reason why I love Dasha. You probably have a reason for liking whoever you like, but there are going to be people who dislike those skaters for that reason as well.
I'm sorry but when similar comments appear related to Eteri and money (and they do), I don't see such reaction.I'm sorry, but ever since a few prominant skaters signed up for the Plushenko Academy, your posts -- once informative --have turned more and more into incoherent raving.
Sounds like at the end you evaluate a skater rather then his actual performance.
Thanks for telling me your opinion. I think I understand why I have differing opinions than you now, because I care mostly about the music, and then the connection of program to music and then the connection of skater to program and music. Anyways, I did not ask "how could anyone possibly like Kamila's FS?" I asked "why do you like it?" I don't think it needs to be changed per se and it's not like I can't allow to exist, I just wanted to see the opposing opinion. If you somehow believe that I think her FS needs to be changed or anything then I'm sorry my post wasn't articulate enough.I never said or implied that one has to like every program his favourite skater has (and I myself was critical to particular programs in the past), I just see this current supercritical avalanche generally as much more caused by completely other preferences than the artistic ones. and even if some program is not the best, hey, it's impossible to satisfy everyone all the time, people like to forget that. Even the best writers have the right to write a weaker book (or weaker in someone's opinion), and this can be applied to musicians, painters etc. That's not the reason to call "why and how did you do that, change that before it's too late" etc.
Also I don't think the used music itself says whether the program is good ar bad, even if some music used for programs is either unlistenable or at least annoying for me (Billie Eilish
As you know I'm the first person to blow up at attacks against Plushy, but this is truly the most pathetic thing I've ever seen. I'm not even angry, this is absurd. Yagudin is so utterly irrelevant."Sambo 70" vs "Plushenko's Angels"
I guess this will be my favorite FS-meme
Those two just keep staying classy don't they?
I think people are entitled to scepticism regarding Plushenko (or Eteri) and money but comments like this are a bit extreme:
I appreciate Edwin's translations of interviews etc. Maybe she's not a fan of capitalism. But I don't like comparing a commercial rink to prostitution, can we stay away from these sorts of comments (especially as skating involves little kids)?
I can only speak for myself as a Swede, and I have always been drawn into the Russians. I would say that the rest of Europe has the Russians as their 'mentors' because they have to compete against them every single darn European championship. But that's just me. Others might have other opinions.
