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Great interview with Inna Goncharenko here: https://iz.ru/1073283/timur-ganeev/korotkaia-programma-valievoi-luchshii-prokat-na-etape-v-moskve
2020-21 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating
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Some words by Yekatarina Ryabova from Panin Memorial here: https://sport24.ru/news/figureskati...a-sama-mne-nravitsya-eto-zanyatiye-ya-kayfuyu
Ryabova: “I staged the free program myself. I like this activity, I enjoy it "
Azerbaijani figure skater Yekaterina Ryabova commented on her performance in the short program at the Panin-Kolomenkin memorial in Sankt Peterburg. The figure skater scored 60.11 points and takes an intermediate second place.
“ Today I made only made Grade 3. And without speed, and not quite emotionally, and for jumping, I have to ask myself some questions. The Flip and Axel were not entirely successful. This is my second competition this year. Before that, I performed in Naro-Fominsk, managed to come to an agreement with the Federation of the Moscow Region. The short program turned out a little better there than here.
For me, the main drawback of the pandemic is the difficulty of participating in international competitions. But in general, everything is fine. I hope that I can perform at the Moscow stage of the Grand Prix, where I am declared.
In the short program this season I am skating to Mambo italiano. I like this music, it was directed by coach Martine Deganais. And the free one (“Stop” by Sam Brown) I staged myself. The coach only sometimes prompted. And this is very cool. It is not difficult to stage a program yourself, considering that I want to be a choreographer. I like this activity, I enjoy when I stage programs.
We chose the tournament in St. Petersburg simply because I was allowed to skate here as a person who represents Azerbaijan. For various reasons, I can not skate in all domestic competitions "
Ryabova: “I staged the free program myself. I like this activity, I enjoy it "
Azerbaijani figure skater Yekaterina Ryabova commented on her performance in the short program at the Panin-Kolomenkin memorial in Sankt Peterburg. The figure skater scored 60.11 points and takes an intermediate second place.
“ Today I made only made Grade 3. And without speed, and not quite emotionally, and for jumping, I have to ask myself some questions. The Flip and Axel were not entirely successful. This is my second competition this year. Before that, I performed in Naro-Fominsk, managed to come to an agreement with the Federation of the Moscow Region. The short program turned out a little better there than here.
For me, the main drawback of the pandemic is the difficulty of participating in international competitions. But in general, everything is fine. I hope that I can perform at the Moscow stage of the Grand Prix, where I am declared.
In the short program this season I am skating to Mambo italiano. I like this music, it was directed by coach Martine Deganais. And the free one (“Stop” by Sam Brown) I staged myself. The coach only sometimes prompted. And this is very cool. It is not difficult to stage a program yourself, considering that I want to be a choreographer. I like this activity, I enjoy when I stage programs.
We chose the tournament in St. Petersburg simply because I was allowed to skate here as a person who represents Azerbaijan. For various reasons, I can not skate in all domestic competitions "
Hopefully, she is in second place after the short program after one of my favourites Anastasia Gubanova. I hope Gubanova does well enough in the stage cups this year to qualify for nationals and break through with an international assignment next year
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If that was an isolated phenomenon, I wouldn't assume anything. But this suddenly found favour towards some skater that is appearing suddely after some significant occurence is very repetitive and the mood and favour of the FS fans is changeable like the april weather.
I am underlining that I'm not taking anything from Daria. I was her fan, I am her fan and I will remain one. I'm simply wondering where all those people who suddenly write odes on her skating were, when she was inconsistent, lost twice at JGP to Haein-Lee, her weaknesses were talked over or that she has no chance to medal etc. At those bad times I was defending her, talking about her strong sides, her potential and flexibility and I'm very glad she supported my estimations. But I was relatively alone during those times and only a few other people had supportive words about her. I live in probably wrong conviction that fans care about skaters not only when they are succesful, but when they have not their best days also. That's what I did and when I'm talking now, it's not against Daria at all. I am simply not accustomed to this sudden "jumping into the train in full swing". As well as I don't like "mhm, maybe she's not so great as the other one" when someone has not her day. But the day probably will come when I will start to be used to that and everything will be OK, so do not lose your faith in me
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Anastasiya Gubanova isn't competing in this event. No reasons given.
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Second day of Panin Memorial
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Hm so in +3 era you needed +2 and in +5 era you need +4? That's so much stricter now, interesting. Perhaps that's the right choice, you used to get the bonus almost automatically with any decent spin.
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I will try to explain to you (and Flanker) this again (the last one). I see that the misunderstanding is due to the interpretation of "gross error". This is described in ISU Communiqué 2334, which is currently in use. In fact, only a fall that received deduction in the protocol is considered a "gross mistake". Poorly made elements, step-outs, etc., which received -5 GOE, are not considered "gross mistakes. And they do not entail restrictions in the PCS. It is here: https://www.fsrussia.ru/files/docs/SSPScomm_2334_revised.pdf ( point 4) Why do some judges ignore this rule in competitions? I don't know . I can only assume that they are incompetent or have forgotten.
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Oleg Matytsin, Minister of Sports, not amused by the social media antics.
Q: How do you feel about the social media scandals around Russian figure skating? And what do you think of the idea of a contract system in this sport?
A: From the point of view of the Ministry of Sports, I take it calmly. We cannot interfere with the relationship between the coach and the athlete. We respect the role of the federation, which should take care of the development of the sport and should regulate relations between the participants in the process. Perhaps through contracts.
Q: So you are in favour of the introduction of contracts in figure skating?
A: It is important that this contract reflects the realities of today and is part of the system. If a culture of relationships can be nurtured through contractual obligations, then perhaps this is the way out.
Q: Due to constant scandals, the image of the sport suffers ...
A: Personal relationships should not be the subject of public discussion. Of course, people tend to be interested in the life of stars, great coaches, but the important issue is the student's respect for the coach and the mentor for his student and the activities of the entire system in which they are. If legal mechanisms of education are needed, then they must be applied. I am categorically opposed to conflict stories for a long time on the pages of newspapers, on the air and on social networks.
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From: https://www.sport-express.ru/olympi...piade-v-tokio-pod-sobstvennym-flagom-1719171/
Q: How do you feel about the social media scandals around Russian figure skating? And what do you think of the idea of a contract system in this sport?
A: From the point of view of the Ministry of Sports, I take it calmly. We cannot interfere with the relationship between the coach and the athlete. We respect the role of the federation, which should take care of the development of the sport and should regulate relations between the participants in the process. Perhaps through contracts.
Q: So you are in favour of the introduction of contracts in figure skating?
A: It is important that this contract reflects the realities of today and is part of the system. If a culture of relationships can be nurtured through contractual obligations, then perhaps this is the way out.
Q: Due to constant scandals, the image of the sport suffers ...
A: Personal relationships should not be the subject of public discussion. Of course, people tend to be interested in the life of stars, great coaches, but the important issue is the student's respect for the coach and the mentor for his student and the activities of the entire system in which they are. If legal mechanisms of education are needed, then they must be applied. I am categorically opposed to conflict stories for a long time on the pages of newspapers, on the air and on social networks.
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From: https://www.sport-express.ru/olympi...piade-v-tokio-pod-sobstvennym-flagom-1719171/
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Is Shcherbakova skating AGAIN with basically zero competition at her next Cup of Russia event? WOW. Just WOW. While Kostornaya, Trusova and Valieva have to compete with each other... The gold medals are being given like candies to Shcherbakova.
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I will try to explain to you (and Flanker) this again (the last one). I see that the misunderstanding is due to the interpretation of "gross error". This is described in ISU Communiqué 2334, which is currently in use. In fact, only a fall that received deduction in the protocol is considered a "gross mistake". Poorly made elements, step-outs, etc., which received -5 GOE, are not considered "gross mistakes. And they do not entail restrictions in the PCS. It is here: https://www.fsrussia.ru/files/docs/SSPScomm_2334_revised.pdf ( point 4) Why do some judges ignore this rule in competitions? I don't know . I can only assume that they are incompetent or have forgotten.
the document 2334 you mention actually says this:
„Serious errors are falls, interruptions during the program and technical mistakes that impact the integrity/continuity/fluidity of the composition and/or its relation to the music.“
As you can see it doesn’t say „only falls“ (definitely says nothing about having a deduction in order to be capped in pcs), but all types of mistakes or errors that impact the program. It’s not too specific, but I would believe it’s rather hard to justify whether poor landing, which is almost a fall, but not quite, keeps the program fluid, continuous and integral.
I would say pops are serious mistakes too.
Technical mistakes which don’t impact the fluidity of the program from my understanding are those which are not too visible or interrupt the program: edge calls, underrotations, spin violations.
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Umm it's not her fault that others didn't want to go to stage 1 becaue they were not prepared/injured. And they don't want back to back events so they don't go to stage 3 either...
And I guess stage 2 and 5 are popular because they are in Moscow so they don't have to travel (while Anna travels twice.)
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I agree that there is a lot of room for looseness and ambiguity. However, if we look at the protocols of competitions with the participation of top athletes (who are able to receive the highest PСS), then we can make sure that only falls that have received deduction are taken into account. Everything else is lyrics, no matter how one of us would like it.
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No, we can’t make sure of that, unless you have a proof beyond 2 competition sheets and a specific regulation, which talks that about „only falls“. You wrote it first as if „only fall with deduction“ is written in the rules, which it definitely is not. Backtracking now to say „well 2 score sheets I look at make me think this“ is not an evidence.
I would say furthermore judges not giving the required GOE/PCS is also nothing new or exclusive to this particular competition. A number of times I noticed judges don’t give -5 for falls, which is probably the most obvious thing to do.
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Clever distribution of your starts is one of the tactics a good manager uses to maximise the scoring potential. Getting maximum audience participation/appreciation should not matter except when you rely on cheap PR antics.
The next event is going to be without spectators, and I will not be surprised this will continue given the poor masks and social distancing discipline.
Collected ranking points decide over starting order in Finals/Nationals, where the best skaters will battle it out between themselves again.
Flu season amongst schoolchildren and highschool students can wreak havoc with some coronavirus added in.
The next event is going to be without spectators, and I will not be surprised this will continue given the poor masks and social distancing discipline.
Collected ranking points decide over starting order in Finals/Nationals, where the best skaters will battle it out between themselves again.
Flu season amongst schoolchildren and highschool students can wreak havoc with some coronavirus added in.
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In my case, I discovered Kamila before she was a junior, when she was 12 and was competing with her Picasso short program. That program, before she became a Junior, was a piece of art. It was beautiful. Eteri said in an interview it was her favorite program from that season, and I totally get it. I was totally amused by Kamila’s talent.If that was an iosolated phenomenon, I wouldn't assume anything. But this suddenly found favour towards some skater that is appearing suddely after some significant occurence is very repetitive and the mood and favour of the FS fans is changeable like the april weather.
I am underlining that I'm not taking anything from Daria. I was her fan, I am her fan and I will remain one. I'm simply wondering where all those people who suddenly write odes on her skating were, when she was inconsistent, lost twice at JGP to Haein-Lee, her weaknesses were talked over or that she has no chance to medal etc. At those bad times I was defending her, talking about her strong sides, her potential and flexibility and I'm very glad she supported my estimations. But I was relatively alone during those times and only a few other people had supportive words about herI live in probably wrong conviction that fans care about skaters not only when they are succesful, but when they have not their best days also. That's what I did and when I'm talking like I'm talking now, it's not against Daria at all.. I am simply not accustomed to this sudden "jumping into the train in full swing". As well as I don't like "mhm, maybe she's not so great as the other one" when someone has not her day. But the day probably will come when I will start to be used to that and everything will be OK, so do not lose your faith in me
However, as soon as she became a junior, the interpretation she used to have for the Picasso program decreased a bit for me, and the choreography was modified a bit so it could get more competitive. Immediately after Kamila’s first competition as a junior, I remember an interview where she stated that the coaches told her to focus on executing all the elements, and not focus on interpreting so much. Maybe, she’s the type of nervous skater who needs to focus on one part of the program instead of the other, I don’t know.
Kamila was the best junior last season, and there’s no doubt about it. Her lutz technique regressed a little bit, but her quad toe was amazing and mesmerizing. I just didn’t like her Exogenesis program, because the choreography made no sense; when the music asked for soft/slow movements, she was doing frantic classic Danny G choreography. Her short program was still good, but it lacked a little bit of the emotion it had the year before. However, there was no doubt Kamila was the best junior.
Then, by the second half of the season, Daria started to catch my eye as a more emotive and interpretative skater. She has a softness in her movements which is simply beautiful. No, she didn’t have the ultra-c elements, but she had something special.
This season, I think Kamila’s not shining as much as she was last season, and that’s mainly because of her free skate. Everybody agrees the short is good, while the free is a little bit of a mess. And Kamila has also not recovered her consistency.
My thing with Kamila is not even her fault: by this time, I had completely fallen in love with Sasha/Aliona/Anna as juniors. All of them were super charismatic and had very unique things about them. Although Kamila has her flexibility, the amazing spins and the quads (her combinations are a no for me), for me she doesn’t let her personality go through ice and in interviews. She’s not as charismatic (and I’m not saying talented, to make it clear) as Sasha/Aliona/Anna were by this time. And that is something very subjective and particular, which I’m sure many posters here will disagree with.
I really like Kamila, but I’m probably not rooting for her, because she doesn’t touch my heart the way Anna/Sasha/Aliona and more recently Daria do. It’s not something I control, it’s the way I feel.
The other factor that may have contributed for me not rooting as much for Kamila is the favoritism Rusfed/the media are playing. Kamila has enough talent to win everything on her own. Let her win by deserving it, and now because they need a gold medalist contender for the Olympics. Kamila didn’t need those 85 points in her Short, and that’s maybe one of the reasons why she had a breakdown in her free. There’s just too much pressure in this girl, and maybe that’s another reason why we can’t see her personality shine.
But that’s it, it’s not hate, it’s just the way I feel/emote with skaters.
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And yet, you have the opportunity to look at these several protocols, which confirm my words. You can easily correct me if you provide other protocols with a rebuttal. I'd be glad to agree with you if I'm wrong.
Yes, I am also always puzzled by such judges' assessments, which you speak of at the end.
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Its worth noticing how it depends not only of the mistake itself - how visible the mistake is, but of skaters capability not to let the mistake impacts the program. So if a skater continues to do transition/ body movement/ interpret the music immediately after the step out, the whole programme may be less impacted, comparing to a skater who had a small stumble but then stopped and need time to recover and go back into the skating pattern. Fall has more chances to impact the program because more time is needed to get up and go back into the skating pattern.
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Anna is sometimes able to hide a step-out so well that you barely notice that, I guess then it should be considered as a mistake that doesn't impact the program.
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I already easily corrected you. Those are the rules, the rest is just lyrics.And yet, you have the opportunity to look at these several protocols, which confirm my words. You can easily correct me if you provide other protocols with a rebuttal. I'd be glad to agree with you if I'm wrong.
Yes, I am also always puzzled by such judges' assessments, which you speak of at the end.
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