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Do we know whether the skaters that have dealt with illnesses recently (Alena, Anna, Liza among others) are all back to regular training? I think I read Evgenia has resumed light training but I haven't heard about the others.
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Anna is back in training since december 3, pictured several times in Khrustalny, asked by TV about the cancelled Europeans and announced that she is aiming at worlds now. She was even part of the short teaser for the russian nationals with some other skaters (Misha Kolyada for instance). Liza was pictured on the Novogorsk ice, but don't know when exactly she returned back to training. Aliona was also already pictured back in training. Of course we don't know their current form, but they say if you miss just two weeks, usually it takes two weeks to get back to previous form, the problem is when it lasts longer. All of those three should fulfill at least those two weeks and slightly more, so if this is true, I hope it shouldn't have serious impact.
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It all depends on the execution, but if they're all squeaky clean on their jumps, get all their levels best GOEs they've ever gotten on their spins and steps with their best PCS, probably 1) Sasha 2) Kamila 3) Anna.
But the likelihood of all 3 going completely clean and getting all their levels is close to 0. Sasha and Kamila have never gone completely clean with that content. It'd be nice to see, but this isn't like junior nationals last season and we're much more likely to see meltdowns and big surprises for the podium, which is always the case when you have that technical content for multiple skaters.
It's a big more exciting than last season where Alena/Anna/Sasha were basically guaranteed to take every podium.
Interesting question. I might try and do the math on this tomorrow or later tonight.
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If Sasha lands everything it means 4 quads and 3 quad/triple-triple combinations. Even without a 3A I think Sasha would win.
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I have the hardest time playing the prediction game. The PCSs favour Valieva to the unreachable degree, but I want with all my heart to see Trusova win. Logically, Trusova will not win over Valieva, because with multi quads she has instability of a male skater, and each jump is a separate statistical test of T/F. But if she somehow wins, and I didn’t put her in the first in my predictions, I will feel like an idiot.
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This is where execution plays a big part, though. And the other elements. Didn't Sasha land 4 quads at Japan Open and scored 160? Anna with 2 quads, Alena with 2 3As, and I believe Sasha with less quads, have scored higher.
Kamila is difficult to beat because of well rounded she is. She has the PCS but I think she also has the highest average GOE for non-jump elements. And she also has quads that get high GOEs, a 3A, and a very difficult triple layout. Her only weakness really are her combos, but just the difference in spin GOE vs. the other skaters is enough to make up for the GOE loss there. And I think she's the only one in the top who has clear correct edges for her Lz/F which is also crazy.
It's been difficult to watch the progression as Anna's fan because while she is a PCS heavy skater with excellent spins, that advantage is lost when she's competing against Kamila, who now also has a more difficult layout.
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Sasha's quads at Japan Open (besides the great 4Lz) were not great. The 4S was huge but had an unstable landing, the 4T had a bad landing and she had a bit of a turnout on the second 4T. With three quads and one fall she got 166 and over 100 TES (which no one else has gotten this season, even with bonus points). I really want Sasha to win here, and I think she can if she performed at her very best, but I don't want to say anything too concrete.
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The question was about if they were squeaky clean so I just took that as given. In reality:
Trusova steps out of 3A at best in SP
Valieva steps out of 3A (thinking of nerves aspect) in SP
Tuktamysheva makes the 3A but steps out of her 3-3
FS:
Trusova at best falls(/steps out) on 2 out of 5(4 quads + 3Lz-3Lo)
Valieva at best falls on (1 quad or a 3Lz), take your pick
Shcherbakova at best if doing 2 quads steps out/UR on one, and some issue with 3Lz-3Lo regardless
Tuktamysheva at best is clean with some URs (but sorry I think she bombs the FS)
Kostornaia at best is clean with URs but no 3A, in reality I think she falls on something
Usacheva at best is clean, but likely falls or steps out on one 3F
Valieva wins
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agreed ! I think they could pull off a worlds with March. As bad as things seem with 4CC and Euros cancelled, I think ISU may have done that in order to have a world championships “bubble” in Stockholm. Cancelling those events allows for more time for skaters to arrive, quarantine, and practice in Sweden before worlds. I don’t know if the vaccines are available in every country, but they are being distributed in the USA. Fingers crossed everything will go back to normal soon!
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why will Tuk bomb the free? From nerves or lack of training/preparation time?
btw I don’t disagree with your statement other than Tuk - I think your interpretation of the others could be spot on!
I’ll reiterate again, if Liza goes for the quad toe here, I actually think she’s out of it. If she just does the triple axels, she is more likely to go clean. I don’t see her bombing the long, but a few mistakes could take her out of contention
I'm with you the prediction game is difficult because judges do score the GOE's to elements and doles out the PCS and PCS sometimes appears to have little to do with the actual scoring criteria - especially with domestic competition.
If everyone is squeaky clean I think it would be hard to see Trusova losing because while Valieva should beat her in every non-jump element Valieva only has the quad toe at this point at the last cup event that gave Valieva roughly 26 points including GOE; going based off Trusova's quads at her second cup event her 4 quads (salchow, lutz and the toe twice - the combo backloaded) she got just over 48 points for the 3 quads she landed and if you just add in the BV of the toe that she fell on and don't add in any GOE (though usually a cleanly landed quad in ladies is going to get about 2-3 points in GOE) her quads give her 57.5 points. If Shcherbakova were to compete the quad layout that she did last year at Nationals her quads would net her about 47 points - Shcherbakova like Valieva should beat Trusova in non-jump elements and would likely better be able to make up the quad deficit than Valieva who is getting roughly half the points on quads to Trusova.
But at this point...Shcherbakova has only done 1 quad in competition and none in combination and that was before she had to take time off for pneumonia. Shcherbakova appears to be willing to take the slow and steady route based on her cup events; I don't think we see her going from 1 to 3 quads at Nationals. Trusova while we respect her ability to do these triple axels and quads has yet to show that she can consistently land them well in competition, the last time she skated clean in competition was the Nepela trophy in September 2019 - since then she's typically made multiple errors in her FS. Valieva has a wild axis that puts her quads at like 50/50 chance they get landed, and while she has the triple axel, she's only competed it once and at a competition that had very little pressure/challenge on her ability to win, nationals won't be that way.
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There is really no skater in the world who consistently lands 3A and quads in competition. Each jumping pass has a chance of failure.
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Yes. Exponentially, the chances of making all difficult elements clean drops for every element.
If your chance of landing a quad is 75%, then landing four clean quads is only around 32%.
But your success rate will drop with every quad because you get tired - let's say -5%. Then the chance of landing 4 quads clean would be around 20% only.
All this speaks against Sasha. But I would be delighted if she can pull it off. The chances are very slim though.
I think the short program will be key. If Valieva and/or Sasha can land their 3A in the short then they have a huge safety net going into the free.
It depends if it's a clean landing, both her cup events she landed the jump but had a messy landing and hasn't really gotten her an advantage going into the FS yet.
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Live skating today in Gomel', Belarus:
Moscow, at the Army of Skaters:
Live scoring: http://armyfs1920.host1810548.hostland.pro
Apparently, Aleksandr Grishin will commentate some.
Sankt Peterburg, at the SKA Arena:
here too:
Live scoring: https://freeskating.info/results/2021...
Blue panel: https://freeskating.info/live/1/
and in Kovrov:
Moscow, at the Army of Skaters:
Live scoring: http://armyfs1920.host1810548.hostland.pro
Apparently, Aleksandr Grishin will commentate some.
Sankt Peterburg, at the SKA Arena:
here too:
Live scoring: https://freeskating.info/results/2021...
Blue panel: https://freeskating.info/live/1/
and in Kovrov:
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Skating in Astrakhan:
the channel will start a new stream after every division
and here:
For something different, you can try rollers:
This is Russian Ultimate, so probably of a high level
the channel will start a new stream after every division
and here:
For something different, you can try rollers:
This is Russian Ultimate, so probably of a high level
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Both nerves and lack of preparation time. The competition is going to be so intense, and at the end of her career she don't have as many chances left. If she makes her first 3 passes she's through, but I see her missing at least one and then things start to unravel.
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you're just overflowing with enthusiastic expectations regarding Tuktik's career, aren't you?
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