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Dont know why the other poster thinks its funny, but I think it's going to be a stark reminder of how uncompetitive they truly are in comparison to the ladies in the jump competition. Though we'll probably be subjected to some of their uber fans swearing right and left that they are still a threat for making the Olympic team which will be a bit humorous to see the uber fans make that stretch.
Lets see these 2 great skaters skate and enjoy that. They have maturity and artistry that the younger girls don't quite have yet. Sure they can't jump with the phenoms but theyre skating is still something to see and we want to see even if it's not in a competition.

If one of the top 3 Russian ladies gets injured going into the Olympics that 3rd spot is going to be open. I think Anna sasha and KV are the clear favorites for the Olympic team.

Everybody's been saying for years EG cannot develop mature skaters. Let's see what alina and Evgenia bring to the party as mature skaters and as women and not girls.

If they can't be in the top 4 or 5 Russian ladies anymore so what. When healthy I say both are still better than at least 90% of the ladies skating competitively today.
 
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I don't know her reasons, but I though it was funny too, so I can give you my reasons.
I simply thought using the title captain for skaters that are doing only exhibitions was funny.
No hate was intended, at least from my side. :)
Of course not.

I would much rather have seen a team of a from Moscow skaters in all 4 disciplines location Saint Petersburg skaters in all 4 disciplines. That would have been a close competition.
 
I just saw a clip of Sasha training at home during quarantine 9 months ago:


It looks really cool that she has what looks like a training studio at home. But it also reminded me that not everyone has these kinds of facilities to train in.
Super Sasha gets it done even at home. ;)

She is always putting in the work.
 
Dont know why the other poster thinks its funny, but I think it's going to be a stark reminder of how uncompetitive they truly are in comparison to the ladies in the jump competition. Though we'll probably be subjected to some of their uber fans swearing right and left that they are still a threat for making the Olympic team which will be a bit humorous to see the uber fans make that stretch.
I don’t think in the quad era, where Russia has several quad and 3A jumping girls, Russian Federation would opt to send Alina or Evgenia who don’t have that technical arsenal. So it’s not something to stretch, it’s quite obvious already that Russian Olympic team will consist only of ladies jumping multiple quads and/or 3A. It was obvious a year or two ago as well, that it’s nearly impossible to compete for the top without quads.

Though that doesn’t mean, Alina or Evgenia can’t decide to compete during Olympic season without their goals being set on Olympics, but rather simply because they want to. It doesn’t make one an idiot to think they can still perform at least to the degree of competing for medals at GPs. Whether they’re out of competitive shape now doesn’t mean they can’t get back into that shape.
 
I don't know her reasons, but I though it was funny too, so I can give you my reasons.
I simply thought using the title captain for skaters that are doing only exhibitions was funny.
No hate was intended, at least from my side. :)
They weren’t on the participants list. So I guess anyone who thinks it’s “funny” they aren’t skating competitively are just laughing at their own misunderstanding?

I can’t really understand the few hateful reactions about this non serious competition with made up rules. Who cares if they aren’t competitive, when they’re captains, and are skating for entertainment? 🙄
 
Of course. If they had identical rules(Quads in SP, 1.0 PCS factor instead of 0.8) I have no doubt that girls would actually outperform boys in a straight up competition anyway.

At junior nationals, it's possible that'll happen even without them having identical rules.
Are we really going there again? Ok, here's a reality check.
It's not like it's such a big achievement. How many of these girls are able to "outperform" the boys when they are 17+? 🙃 The girls are being "more consistent" because they cheat on half of their jumps, especially the "quads".
And yes, people will remind you of this reality as long as you keep bashing male skaters just for the sake to make girls look better. If girls would really be so much better, you wouldn't need to put down male skaters at every occasion and making a "girls vs boys" rivalry....:shrug:
 
I think you're also taking my reaction too seriously.
Just because I think other skaters should have been captains, doesn't mean I'm hating on Evgenia or Alina
And Alina and Evgenia should just crawl into a hole until they can do quads, change the format of the team competition so that the captains can participate, and then help their respective team win :shrug: It’s just a silly thing to nitpick when everything about this competition is completely made up.
 
Are we really going there again? Ok, here's a reality check.
It's not like it's such a big achievement. How many of these girls are able to "outperform" the boys when they are 17+? 🙃 The girls are being "more consistent" because they cheat on half of their jumps, especially the "quads".
And yes, people will remind you of this reality as long as you keep bashing male skaters just for the sake to make girls look better. :shrug:
Recognizing the likely scenario isn't "bashing".

Russian male skating is in dire straits and won't have a significant talent until Nikolai Kolesnikov.

And we'll see how Anna's jumps are in, well, 2 months.
 
And Alina and Evgenia should just crawl into a hole until they can do quads, change the format of the team competition so that the captains can participate, and then help their respective team win :shrug: It’s just a silly thing to nitpick when everything about this competition is completely made up.
I don't think it was meant this way.

Though it is reviving my wish them to return to a full training. If Liza T. started to learn quad, if Amber Glenn gained 3A after she turned 20, then why other "legends" shouldn't, if they want.
 
I like Elizaveta Berestovskaya's lutz and flip. It is not exactly the minimal pre-rotation technique of Yuna, Yuzuru, Nathan, Boyang, Kolyada, Carolina and Alexia Paganini but it resembles it a lot.
Berestovskaya has very clear outside lutz edge
Her lutz and flip jumps are 1000 percent purely toe pick assisted. Never seen something like this before. A true ballerina!
Her pre-rotation is not excessive at all
You can watch from 4.10 in slow motion. For additional slow motion you can use 0.25 button
 
I like Elizaveta Berestovskaya's lutz and flip. It is not exactly the minimal pre-rotation technique of Yuna, Yuzuru, Nathan, Boyang, Kolyada, Carolina and Alexia Paganini but it resembles it a lot.
Berestovskaya has very clear outside lutz edge
Her lutz and flip jumps are 1000 percent purely toe pick assisted. Never seen something like this before. A true ballerina!
Her pre-rotation is not excessive at all
You can watch from 4.10 in slow motion. For additional slow motion you can use 0.25 button
This is true. Very nice technique. Her problems are the lack of speed and not much jump height. I think she's been improving these things, but she needs to continue in that path. Hopefully we see more improvements next week.

She's a fun performer. In some sense maybe even over the top with some of those facial expressions. But in time she will find the right balance.
 
I like Elizaveta Berestovskaya's lutz and flip. It is not exactly the minimal pre-rotation technique of Yuna, Yuzuru, Nathan, Boyang, Kolyada, Carolina and Alexia Paganini but it resembles it a lot.
Berestovskaya has very clear outside lutz edge
Her lutz and flip jumps are 1000 percent purely toe pick assisted. Never seen something like this before. A true ballerina!
Her pre-rotation is not excessive at all
You can watch from 4.10 in slow motion. For additional slow motion you can use 0.25 button
I never really noticed that before so thank you! The Lutz rreally is perfection the flip looks kind of flat similair to most skaters with great Lutzes. Whenever we speak of her its ususally about her 4T which looks so small and "whippy" so I never really looked into the other jumps to much. She is still young so I hope she can get her 4T to similair standard as her 3Lz. (And hopefully also work some more on her speed and glide to match the two Sofias and Adelya)
 
Are we really going there again? Ok, here's a reality check.
It's not like it's such a big achievement. How many of these girls are able to "outperform" the boys when they are 17+? 🙃 The girls are being "more consistent" because they cheat on half of their jumps, especially the "quads".
And yes, people will remind you of this reality as long as you keep bashing male skaters just for the sake to make girls look better. If girls would really be so much better, you wouldn't need to put down male skaters at every occasion and making a "girls vs boys" rivalry....:shrug:
All these kinds of commentaries completely ignore female and male anatomy differences, and devalue achievements young girls are capable of.
Their quads aren’t any more or less cheated than the quads of men.
of course it is harder to compete with puberty for ladies, and it’s not because they have cheated quads.
I’ve seen little girls being able to do pull ups with 1 arm, and boys of the same age it being able to do anything near the same.
As boys develop and grow into young men, they’re capable to develop muscles easily. With constant exercise and testosterone, which comes with puberty, they’re able to improve their physique a lot easier than girls, who on contrary have to fight the natural impact of estrogen on their bodies, which makes them predisposed to accumulate fat. Male and female bodies go in completely different directions post puberty, so we should on contrary applaud ladies, like Sasha, Anna, Liza etc, who are able to keep that kind of level of performance given all of that.
 
People will say Russian ladies need a pro-circuit because there are so many past and present talents, and then when something like a pro competition arises, we have people hating on the “uncompetitive” girls for participating in some form :dbana:
This! I for one am just happy to see some skating, and the fact that it features my beloved Russian skaters is the cherry on top!
 
Guys, I know we all love our Russian girls, but do you think they could beat the guys fo real? 😅
It’s friendly competition. Don’t think the scores matter. A fun time will be had by all, including us viewers.

But, it won’t hurt to have Liza on the boards when it’s the men’s turn to jump. Run a little friendly distraction. Haha
 
It’s friendly competition. Don’t think the scores matter. A fun time will be had by all, including us viewers.

But, it won’t hurt to have Liza on the boards when it’s the men’s turn to jump. Run a little friendly distraction. Haha
It is a friendly fun competition, but I think that the boys will feel some pressure here. Their opponents aren't exactly push-overs, but at the same time, it would be embarrasing to lose to them.

Girls have a psychological advantage.
 
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