All ladies won big points for the team. Aside ladies SP and FS, did red machine won another program?
2020-21 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating
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Yes, they won Pairs SP with 1 point. But that's it.
So 3 programs out of 8. Not bad for an heavily favored team.
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Or the TAT test, even better, at least in the name department.This conference is like a Rorschach test for fansYou see what you want to see...
For those unfamiliar: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thematic_apperception_test
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I always thought that being uber flexible meant a skaters jumps would suffer due to being too loosy-goosey (think how certain flexible skaters had jump consistency issues: sasha cohen, Jason brown,) but for now I'm thinking I was wrong... hopefully Kamila can keep her flexibility into her late teens.
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One thing I truly enjoy about Eteri is that she doesn't perform for the media. As in doesn't buy into being a clown in any spectacle.
She doesn't put on a fake jolly attitude for the interviewer, she doesn't throw antics in the K&C, she doesn't try to hide her disappointment when she is disappointed with her skater, neither tears when she was touched. She's almost reluctant to give interviews or be on camera while for example Plushenko couldn't have been happier that someone was holding a microphone under his unmasked nose.
She just seems so above the circus that live television is.
And that, keeping in mind that the cameras are almost more on her than on any skater at this point.
I see that coaches usually try to hide their disappointment at skaters while on camera, maybe also in order to not negatively influence the judges' scores, to not give a negative image, but she couldn't care less. When Anna finished her skate she was full on rolling her eyes and shaking her head.
I always cringe at Rika and her coach for example, who, no matter what, put on these huge fake smiles and giggles for the camera, even if Rika just had a complete meltdown. But I know that's culture and Japenese mannerism I have no right to judge.
She doesn't put on a fake jolly attitude for the interviewer, she doesn't throw antics in the K&C, she doesn't try to hide her disappointment when she is disappointed with her skater, neither tears when she was touched. She's almost reluctant to give interviews or be on camera while for example Plushenko couldn't have been happier that someone was holding a microphone under his unmasked nose.
She just seems so above the circus that live television is.
And that, keeping in mind that the cameras are almost more on her than on any skater at this point.
I see that coaches usually try to hide their disappointment at skaters while on camera, maybe also in order to not negatively influence the judges' scores, to not give a negative image, but she couldn't care less. When Anna finished her skate she was full on rolling her eyes and shaking her head.
I always cringe at Rika and her coach for example, who, no matter what, put on these huge fake smiles and giggles for the camera, even if Rika just had a complete meltdown. But I know that's culture and Japenese mannerism I have no right to judge.
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Also when the case for Ksenia is full-package it's rather shaky because it's not Sasha's spot she's has a chance for - it's Aliona's.
Against Sasha that's a better argument but even Sasha might outscore her in PCS - Sasha's got a better resume. (Obviously TES Sasha is ahead even with a watered down program.)
And against Aliona it's not even an argument. Aliona IS the the most complete package when at full health with 3As. (Although that might not last forever - Kamila is close and has most of Aliona's strengths (including 3A) plus a quad on top.) Also Aliona HAS landed her 3As in domestic and international competition and has a MUCH better reputation.
Basically Ksenia doesn't have Aliona level qualities. If there's even a chance Aliona gets left behind - I thinks she's going but her spot is much shakier than Anna (already named) and Sasha (almost certainly going) - then all this is amplified for Ksenia. Because as it stands neither have shown 3As in international competition this year BUT Aliona has in the past and has a MUCH MUCH MUCH better resume and even if the 3As don't happen for either of them (and their are slight mistakes) Aliona will be saved both domestically and internationally due to her reputation and her PCS - best in the world. Ksenia would be given none of that by Russian judges much less international ones. (Also even ignoring all of that, the spot is going to be named based on several competitions, which they've said since before RusNats - stages, Rostelecom, RusNats, Cup, Cup of Russia Final. Of those Ksenia will have only gone to one, Aliona will have gone to more and the RusFed already likes Aliona's new program.
Even if Ksenia manages to greatly outscore Aliona, there is still Liza. While the compete package might be an argument against Liza, it's not a secure one. Because Liza is a very well known skater, especially compared to first year Ksenia without Kamila, or even Alysa or Daria's reputation. Arguably she's at the same level in the eyes of the fed and internationally as Maiia. Both behind Kamila and Daria nationally and internationally both attempting quads but without landing them internationally.
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Eh. They're both right around 200. The 215 reads as an outlier. And for that matter Ksenia also has a 176.
Besides, Daria's international average last year is 202.19 and Ksenia's is 198.4. So actually that's not really true either. Daria's is higher in the last year (she was too young the year before) and when they went head to head last year at the JGPF with the same judges Daria won. Plus Daria has a silver Junior Worlds medal.
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It's true. That's the part I didn't like from 21 year old Evgenia. The rest was fine.
Maiia is 14 and at your own rink. And it's not like Evgenia herself never made mistakes. I love her!! But..from a team captain and being 21...
Besides it would be one thing if Maiia alone had made mistakes. But she didn't. Liza popped her 3A in the SP and Sasha fell and underrotated her 4Lz and had a hand down on the second 4Lz. And Liza had numerous mistakes in her FS. (Yes it would be closer with Aliona but any of those not happening would have drastically closed the difference.) (Although...even a full strength Aliona is around 250 - that's still 20 points lower than Kamila.)
Also it felt a little dismissive of everything her team DID do well. And some of the men made mistakes.
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It’s not even clear whether Ksenia will go to cup final, but she only had 1 performance in over a year, where she popped her quad, doesn’t have much of a international reputation yet, so quad or not, she won’t be sent over Aliona, a reigning European and GPF champion, and Liza, a WC.
If she landed a quad at RCF, it will likely be perceived as a one off good attempt, since we’ve only seen her trying it once before, and it was a pop then. There’s no guarantee she has a consistent quad, and Rusfed won’t risk it.
If she landed a quad at RCF, it will likely be perceived as a one off good attempt, since we’ve only seen her trying it once before, and it was a pop then. There’s no guarantee she has a consistent quad, and Rusfed won’t risk it.
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She has nothing left to prove, no authorities, no real competition. I've only seen her display deference three times - to Putin, Pozner and Ted Barton.
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Yeah exactly. Especially as 1 quad won't negate the fact that Aliona has done 3 3As before and they weren't just once and Liza also has 3As. And Aliona and Liza, especially Aliona, have MUCH better reputations.
I think right know Ksenia is viewed the same as Maiia.
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I don't mind Daniil because I think he's a stabilizing presence for Anna and he was with Kamila too. He's gone to sooo many of their junior competitions (for all of them) and they're comfortable with him. Even with Eteri there it's Danil that Anna goes to right before she skates. I don't love his antics but he's not the only one putting on a show. (Plushy anyone?)
Regardless, I would prefer for them to be comfortable and confident (same with Sasha with Plushy). I can roll my eyes for two seconds - it doesn't really inconvenience me lol. (Besides I think regardless he and Plushy and all coaches DO care about their skaters.)
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I disagree.
Her short program really shows off a level of maturity and seriousness and dedication that I honestly haven't seen after Alyona. Daria's SP this season is also very good but I think Kseniia takes the trophy because not only does she interpret it well, but the choreography is actually good and lets her hold movements and match the music. She is a level above Zhenya in SS and better than Daria too (not by an insane amount though). Her FS is weaker in terms of interpretation and facial expression but the step sequence is much more unique and interesting than everything from the Eteri girls this season (and unique and interesting in a good way). She has good flexibility, especially in laybacks and ina bauers, she has wonderful transitions and makes wonderful use of them to match the music. She has good jumps, technically or aesthetically. The only thing I find lacking is facial expression, but in all honesty, when her movements are able to be so expressive I don't see a need to be facially expressive. Obviously it would be nice and would boost her even higher but I don't think it's something lacking per se.
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I'm still kind of mad about JGPF. I think Kseniia absolutely should have been bronze and I don't understand how she wasn't (and I think everyone here knows that Daria is one of my favorites).
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Anyone know why Anya seemed to be in such a downcast mood after the competition yesterday...?
I don't think it had to do with her performance; she seemed reasonably happy with how she had skated. So I'm curious what else might have been on her mind.
I don't think it had to do with her performance; she seemed reasonably happy with how she had skated. So I'm curious what else might have been on her mind.
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I might be wrong, but I understood Zhenya's words not as a criticism of Maya's performance. She was disappointed with the distribution of skaters between teams, and was implying that if a preliminary distribution instead of blind draw took place, with Kostornaya the joint ratings of her ladies team would have been at least closer to those of the other team. It wasn't about Maya performing not well enough, because many did in both teams, it was about the initial ratings difference before anyone could see how they all performed in fact.
Yes they're both around 200 but Ksenia does have proof that internationally she can score over 210 with a junior program. Her 176 was from two years ago.
I got Daria's average as 200 and Ksenia's as 203.9? (Only counting 18/19 seasons scores)
Ksenia Sinitsyna:
JGP RUS - 204.25
JGP ITA - 215.58
JGPF - 195.57
Youth Olympics - 200.03
Daria Usacheva:
JGP LAT - 194.40
JGP CRO - 197.19
JGPF - 200.37
Junior World's - 207.74
Anyway, my point was in opposition to the statement that Sinitsyna hasn't even shown Usacheva level skating.
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I assume the other person might have used Junior Nationals as well? Or any domestic events.
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