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2020-21 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

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Except she has never won ANY major INTERNATIONAL title... you know the ones with at least a modicum of unbiased judging.
I’m not saying she couldn’t, just that she hasn’t.
Her real competition is not out there though, it's right there in Russia and the fact that she stayed at the top there means a lot and it's a huge achievement that shouldn't be diminished.
 
Her real competition is not out there though, it's right there in Russia and the fact that she stayed at the top there means a lot and it's a huge achievement that shouldn't be diminished.
But you are diminishing other skaters, as if they are not worth to be in the same competition as her. :unsure: Nobody cares about national champions. Being on top in your own country doesn't mean much. You have to win stuff on the international stage to be somebody.
 
I'm not sure what you mean by that bolded part. Are you implying international judges aren't willing to give Anna good scores?
Scherbakova was placed first in the FS at EVERY major INTERNATIONAL competition she's attended last year. Despite her having falls and making major errors, international judges did put her in the first place.

The reason she wasn't winning against Aliona was because of the UNFAIR ADVANTAGE Aliona had in the SP.
International judging was not the problem. In fact, at European championships judges gave similar PCS to Anna and Aliona (only a point difference), and similar GOEs.

I disagree with position that Kostornaia had an unfair advantage, everyone knew the rules and could have prioritized the triple axel over quads.

How can an EG manage keeping Anya happy and at a high-level World Championship caliber skater while not letting KV overtake her too fast? I mean how does Eteri navigate and juggle enough to keep both girls happy going into the Olympics and then post Olympics?

Eteri's job is to do everything she can for each skater to make sure they can do their best at any competition. Whether or not the girls are happy with her about the outcome is not something she can control
 
But you are diminishing other skaters, as if they are not worth to be in the same competition as her. :unsure: Nobody cares about national champions. Being on top in your own country doesn't mean much. You have to win stuff on the international stage to be somebody.

Considering Russia's depth and being the source of almost all major International competition winners, winning Russian nationals is a huge deal. And in order to have a chance to win International competitions placing well/winning nationals is necessary.
 
You rather fall trying than pop combos in Tutberidze's group.
I like this little firecracker, but have we witnessed a clean skate by Daria yet? :unsure:

The SP in Russian Cup stage 4 Kazan was clean

First thing for info, Sadkova won the whole competition at the end (online scores), thanks to elements. One fall but the girl who won both SP and FS fell as well. I presume the channel that has shown the SP and elements will publish the free skate soon.

Second, she had clean free skate (in the sense of without falls) last month at this event, where she was 11th after the short, but thanks to the best free skate jumped for the silver medal (no vid from the event known to me).

Third. At the same competition she won today she was 7th overally last year. As I look at her previous results she probably has consistency issues generally. Now we will see whether they will be able to make her consistent at Khrustalnyi. She's not there even one full season (even without summer camp), also she trains in Moscow and constantly travels to competitions elsewhere (today it's Tyumen, more than 2100 km from Moscow, it's roughly like from Amsterdam to Moscow, so yeah, Russia is truly big :biggrin: ), which I don't think benefits her consistency at the age of 12. I hope she will be listed in Moscow for the next season already. Recently we have seen some girls gaining consistency at Khrustalnyi, some Daria and some Maiia. Daria, who at the start of the last season was hardly able to skate back to back two clean programs is now one of the most consistent skaters in Russia. Maiia still has some consistency issues, but mostly it's related to her quad attempts and she's still much better than she was like a year and half ago,, so I think we can keep some hope. :)

Edit: I see other channel has already posted Dasha's free skate.
 
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But you are diminishing other skaters, as if they are not worth to be in the same competition as her. :unsure: Nobody cares about national champions. Being on top in your own country doesn't mean much. You have to win stuff on the international stage to be somebody.
are we really going to rehash this again? outside of Rika, the Russian ladies only competition is each other. that is a literal fact. winning Russian nationals THREE TIMES IN A ROW in the greatest era of Russian ladies skating is a huge huge deal. Anna is skating against her greatest competition in the entire world and winning, three years over. and correction- YOU don't care about national champions.
 
That sure was an interesting K&C moment. Was this competition really so important

She did pretty good though in the free. Nice to see 😎
For her it was obviously an important competition to boost her self-confidence. But other than that I think it's in fact qualification for the novice championships and from those regions only the winner qualifies (at least that's how I remember the table with the qualification rules that was published in the thread about russian domestic competitions).

All in all, the stone would have shown mercy to her when seeing her there in the K&C all alone waiting for the points :console:
(pity we haven't seen her reaction :love:).
 
But you are diminishing other skaters, as if they are not worth to be in the same competition as her. :unsure: Nobody cares about national champions. Being on top in your own country doesn't mean much. You have to win stuff on the international stage to be somebody.
Sorry but this just is an extremely misguided post. It doesn't mean much to be on top, in Russian ladies' field? Nothing could be further from the truth, in fact the Russian national and top domestic competitions tend to be of far higher calibre than the Olympics or World Championships.

It's not about "not deserving to be in the same competition as her", it's like you're going out of your way to victim complex while completely missing the point, or arguing for the sake of arguing.
 
I'm not sure what you mean by that bolded part. Are you implying international judges aren't willing to give Anna good scores?
Scherbakova was placed first in the FS at EVERY major INTERNATIONAL competition she's attended last year. Despite her having falls and making major errors, international judges did put her in the first place.

The reason she wasn't winning against Aliona was because of the UNFAIR ADVANTAGE Aliona had in the SP.
International judging was not the problem. In fact, at European championships judges gave similar PCS to Anna and Aliona (only a point difference), and similar GOEs.
Unfair?? I know many people feel that quads should be allowed in the short program for the women as well, but all skaters were competing under the same rules. Any skater could've taken advantage of the system by putting in a triple axel in the short program. It's not right to call it an "unfair advantage" when everyone is skating under the same rules. You can call it unfair if the rules only somehow allowed Aliona to jump a triple axel in the short program.
 
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