2020-21 Russian Ladies' Figure Skating

[Skatesocs]

@herro If you're interested, https://www.goldenskate.com/forum/threads/random-figure-skating-questions.42225/page-34#post-968234

Natural clockwise skaters who jump counterclockwise

In a recent interview i learned that Elena Radionova is a natural clockwise skater but she was taught to jump counterclockwise. Because Russia has a group approach in training while other countries have individual approach...

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Found these while searching too, haha

 

[herro]

I'd really have to check for examples on YouTube for the lower level combos, but I know Rohene Ward was rumored to practice a 3Lz+3Lz! IDK the credibility. But he certainly did have both the CCW 3Lz and CW 3Lz (I was recently reading his Fan Fest for example videos, so I know for sure he had both jumps, but alas, no examples of the combo, so no idea if it's anything more than a rumour). It seems more of a recreational thing than competitive one though.

I do think it'll look beautiful though! I am pretty sure Sonja Henie or someone did do 1Lz in the opposite direction too.

Amazing! Thanks for reminding me of Rohene Ward - what a great skater! I remember being enchanted by some of his competition skates around the Salt Lake Olympics which is when I started following skating more closely. I'll have to go back and watch some of his videos.

Edit: And thanks for the links!

 

[Skatesocs]

Amazing! Thanks for reminding me of Rohene Ward - what a great skater! I remember being enchanted by some of his competition skates around the Salt Lake Olympics which is when I started following skating more closely. I'll have to go back and watch some of his videos.

Edit: And thanks for the links!

I used to know someone who had a +1Lz, lol, but haven't spoken to them in a really long time haha

 

[Novalis]

I posted some timetable stuff for the Cup of Russia Final here:

Final Cup of Russia

Final Cup of Russia Feb 26 - Mar 2, 2021 Moscow, Russia https://fsrussia.ru/sorevnovaniya/5391-final-kubka-rossii-rostelekom-2020-2021.html Livestream Results

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Ladies SP Saturday 27th Feb 18.05-19.35
Ladies FP Sunday 28th Feb 17.50-19.35

Junior Ladies SP Monday 1st March 15.30-17.00
Junior Ladies FP Tuesday 2nd March 15.00-16.40

Moscow time. Venue is Megasport

No list of participants as of yet

The draw will take place after the training session on Friday 26th afternoon for Seniors.

For Juniors draw on Sunday 11.30-12.00

 

[Novalis]

I posted some timetable stuff for the Cup of Russia Final here:

Final Cup of Russia

Final Cup of Russia Feb 26 - Mar 2, 2021 Moscow, Russia https://fsrussia.ru/sorevnovaniya/5391-final-kubka-rossii-rostelekom-2020-2021.html Livestream Results

www.goldenskate.com

Ladies SP Saturday 27th Feb 18.05-19.35
Ladies FP Sunday 28th Feb 17.50-19.35

Junior Ladies SP Monday 1st March 15.30-17.00
Junior Ladies FP Tuesday 2nd March 15.00-16.40

Moscow time. Venue is Megasport

No list of participants as of yet

Are we expecting there to be 12 skaters (two groups)? Time constraints suggest so.

 

[Arbitrary]

Unfortunately one cannot connect Lutz to another jump in combo. Flip possible, but not Lutz.

 

[dante]

In case anyone is looking for a 3Lz+3F (Artur Dmitriev Jr., Nebelhorn 2018):

 

[chasingneverland]

No Alyona??
Can countries have TBD spots not at home events? I don't remember them being able to do so.
I don't know if I'd give Stasya a spot over Tsibinova or Frolova or even Guliakova.

Haha of course Aliona too haha. I was just typing too fast!

 

[chasingneverland]

As someone who's taken turns liking all of the 3A and now am just tired, I'd say all three of those skaters get enough mud thrown at them on this thread. Naturally, if you're a Sasha fan, the criticisms toward Sasha will get under your skin more and you'll think that she gets criticized the most here. Same for fans of Anna, Aliona, Alina, Zhenya, and even Kamila. So there's no need to be thinking that one skater is the most criticized and doubted because every relevant top skater has their turn playing that role here.

I definitely agree with this. Same with Liza. And for that matter all their coaches too. Everyone takes things personally and has trouble looking objectively at things that concern their favourite skater. (Or in some cases their least favourite skater.) However, I will say Anna is the only one who has a poster dedicated to hating and critiquing everything she does, well beyond just her skating, and bringing it up regardless of what the topic is at the time. Although, I will definitely acknowledge that they have all been criticized an undue amount.

 

[chasingneverland]

Edge of the Flutz, unknowingly given, you will renew your mother. Degrees of pre-rotation, willingly given, you will revive your mistress. Sponsors of bad technique, forcibly taken, you will resurrect your foe.

I love this. Nice hp/regeneration potion reference.

 

[Skatesocs]

I love this. Nice hp/regeneration potion reference.

Lady Voldemerde's name is taboo, too

 

[Jontor]

About Dmitriev's 3Lz+3F. He had to land the Lutz on the wrong foot to be able to do that. As I understand it, the ISU stated that that was ok. So I guess it's possible to do a 3Lz+3Lz in the same direction, you just need to land the first one on the wrong foot.

About the National Team next year. I don't know about Alina, but I'm pretty sure Zhenya will not give up her spot. And I am not so sure what I think about that. It means that one very promising skater, probably Sinitsyna, will not get the funding...and it breaks my heart as I know Zhenya is not that competitive anymore.

And that also impacts the GP spots. Alina and Zhenya should not get any GPs next season IMO, there are others more worthy.

 

[Shayuki]

About Dmitriev's 3Lz+3F. He had to land the Lutz on the wrong foot to be able to do that. As I understand it, the ISU stated that that was ok. So I guess it's possible to do a 3Lz+3Lz in the same direction, you just need to land the first one on the wrong foot.

About the National Team next year. I don't know about Alina, but I'm pretty sure Zhenya will not give up her spot. And I am not so sure what I think about that. It means that one very promising skater, probably Sinitsyna, will not get the funding...and it breaks my heart as I know Zhenya is not that competitive anymore.

Lutz-Lutz you can land on the same foot. Lutz starts on the outside edge, and lands on the outside edge. You just need to rotate the second Lutz in the opposite direction.

But it's just a waste of time so.

 

[chasingneverland]

Was I asleep when Alena Kostornaya announced her retirement or...?
If Alena shows even only a clean program without 3A she will get 2 GP spots.
If she shows any landed 3A at all, there will be no question marks whatsoever about getting 2 GP spots.

No lol. I was just typing too many names. I thought I had already included her. Without a doubt she gets a spot.

 

[Skatesocs]

But it's just a waste of time so.

Fun isn't a waste of time, jeez! Otherwise skating in itself is a waste of time! And while that's true, we shouldn't let the young skaters have mid-life crises at the ripe old age of 14!

 

[LiamForeman]

Slutskaya about why wearing tights over the boots

Слуцкая объяснила, зачем фигуристки натягивают колготки на коньки - 30 января 2021 - Sport24

Двукратная чемпионка мира по фигурному катанию Ирина Слуцкая объяснила, почему фигуристки натягивают колготки поверх коньков во время выступлений.

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I don't understand Russian, but I hope she's not saying that it helped her to extend the look of her already near perfect extension, line and toe point!! She was another skater who I thought was arrogant and whiney for no reason. She had the elegance of a truck driver, IMO!

 

[chasingneverland]

The Channel One gala events was probably the best opportunity we had to assess Zhenya's and Alina's form right now.

I was legitimately impressed with Zhenya. It was just a gala program, but her skating didn't look at all labored, despite the health issues she's dealt with this season, and it was a pleasant reminder of how much her artistry has been missed.

Alina, on the other hand...I can only hope she protects her legacy and stays retired. Not to mention that it would upset a lot of fans to see her take away a spot from a young skater like, say, Kseniia.

I agree with this. Although if Alina can get back to competitive shape I actually don't have a problem with her taking away a spot from a young skater is she can beat them. I love Kseniia but she's also just getting back into competitive shape.

 

[LiamForeman]

Amazing! Thanks for reminding me of Rohene Ward - what a great skater! I remember being enchanted by some of his competition skates around the Salt Lake Olympics which is when I started following skating more closely. I'll have to go back and watch some of his videos.

Edit: And thanks for the links!

Did you mean competition practices? He was a phenomenal talent. In warm-up, he'd start off with a 3axel at a practical standstill and land beautiful huge solid 4toes at a time when MikePikeTM was barely landing his much smaller and almost always two-footed 4toes. But then after warming up the audience he'd go out and fall on EVERYTHING in the performance. *Sigh* I'm so glad he found his niche in skating as a choreographer to go to. He's just amazing.

 

[Amei]

I agree with this. Although if Alina can get back to competitive shape I actually don't have a problem with her taking away a spot from a young skater is she can beat them. I love Kseniia but she's also just getting back into competitive shape.

Agree, I wish the Fed would do a skate-off midway through the offseason or something for the national team for the likes of Medvedeva, Zagitova, etc. that haven't competed this year and the best skaters from that skate off get assigned to the reserve national team and get priority for GP assignment

 

[flanker]

I don't understand Russian, but I hope she's not saying that it helped her to extend the look of her already near perfect extension, line and toe point!! She was another skater who I thought was arrogant and whiney for no reason. She had the elegance of a truck driver, IMO!

She gives three reasons:
1) optically prolonging legs;
2) covering potential boots damage;
3) Protecting the laces from untying.
That's what she says