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What did you expect?


I find it hilarious that people bash skaters who bomb one or two competitions after leaving Eteri, but having all kind of excuses when it happens to her actuall skaters... When Trusova bombed last years nationals, it was not a big deal, but after her Rostelecom performance this season, there were snarky comments ( especially from that Hirsh guy on twitter, who behaves like a 12 yo girl :palmf: ). Yeah, as if this kind of things didn't happen while still being with Eteri. Bias and double standards are such a thing...:rolleye:
Well something I expected is seeing you gloating on here after Kamila had a rough skate.

And falling on 2 quads but landing one quad and one 3A is not what I'd even consider "bombing". That'd be something like Alina Zagitova at 2018 worlds, that's "bombing". Kamila was trying a more challenging layout for the first time.
 
Anna F is too young - by about a month and a little bit. She's not age eligible for seniors internationally.

So Alena K is first alternate.
How unfair life is... it's only 7 days... but anyway it's the last chance she have to be part of the national team... next year with the unattainable Shcherbakova, Valieva, with Khromykh landing 2 quads, Usachova with 3A and 4S, Trusova and Tuktamysheva still competitive and whit return of Medvedeva... will have no place even in a GPF.
 
The age group's from July 1 2005 to June 30 2006.

Similarly, Kostornaya's almost a year older than Trusova but people have considered them to be of the same age group right?
Yeah but considering Alena and Sasha the same age has pretty much never been done, either. In fact it's been said repeatedly that they're 16 and Alena is 17 - especially because for most of the competitive season they are different ages.
 
How unfair life is... it's only 7 days... but anyway it's the last chance she have to be part of the national team... next year with the unattainable Shcherbakova, Valieva, with Khromykh landing 2 quads, Usachova with 3A and 4S, Trusova and Tuktamysheva still competitive and whit return of Medvedeva... will have no place even in a GPF.
It's a month and seven days. And some have been waaaay closer. If you think that's bad Adelina was born on July 1st. She's hours too young.
 
I honestly don't need Daria nor Kamila to compete anymore (they also look kind of tired? like just skating wise they both looked a bit more messy today), Maiia maybe one more to get more used to the quads. Daria needs to work on getting the 4S consistent (and probably 3A too) ASAP and Kamila needs to work on making her 4S consistent as well. Next season's battle for the Olympics just got more exciting.
 
That was emotionally exhausting to watch - so unpredictable, so fraught. Well done to all the ladies, though!

I missed Kamila S. and most of Maria Talalaikina's skate, so will have to rewind to catch them, but I did get home in time to see Maria finish and flick that happy little salute at the judges. So I imagine she had a good skate!

Sofia needs a big hug. Something seems very wrong, whether it is skating related or something else, as she has looked on the verge of tears both days. She has such fun programmes this year, which are really very different from everyone else's, but she just didn't seem to feel them this weekend. That pop on her opening flip was really unfortunate, but she fought back and I think it was her first combination looked like it got a lot of air. I hope that whatever is upsetting her is resolved and that she can be happy Sofia again, smiling, bubbly and singing along to her music.

Ksenia Tsibinova did a good job; she was pretty solid in her execution, but alas, the programme isn't sticking with me. And I thought Elizaveta Nugumanova had different music for her free, but I suppose I was wrong? Not her best skate, sadly, and the underrotations really knocked her down the standings, but before she got her score, at the end of the free, she did have the good humour to take the problems with a philosophical shake of the head and a laugh.

Anna Frolova delivered another competent, consistently clean skate, and it is paying off - her delight at her score and how overwhelmed she was almost immediately afterwards was really heartwarming. She has really grown into herself, and is learning how to emote as a performer, and to connect with the audience. She is a treasure, and I hope that she gets GP spots when she goes senior - she deserves to be seen on the international stage.

Maiia! Wow, Maiia! That was amazing! I confess that I was starting to think she'd never land the quads, and then she goes out and does that. Two quads! Both looking so secure! Well done to her for persevering and proving me so, so wrong. These young skaters are determined and talented and hard working, and it pays off. She won the free skate so convincingly, and I am so thrilled to see that a long-limbed skater can land quads, and showing that it's not only small, compact skaters who have the physique for it. May the off season be kind to her, because she has just entered the conversation for Olympic spots, however premature the discussion may be.

I think both Daria and Kamila were rattled by Maiia's success; I know skaters say they don't pay attention to what their competitors are doing and that they are focused on their own warm-ups, their own preparation, their own programmes, but I feel that they surely must have known that Maiia landed her quads. Daria felt rushed in her skating, zooming all over the ice, and not as connected to her music as usual, and then she had the hand down and that bobble in the StSq (or was it the ChSq? I have to go back and watch her skate again, because I can remember the bobble but not where it occurred). She's usually so unhurried, so unflustered, so consistently foot-perfect, that the two teeeeeeeeny tiny flaws surprised me. But I loved her reactions to the playback - her grimace at the bobble, her laughter at the face she pulled when leaving the ice.

Kamila looked less settled and focused at the start of her Bolero today than she has since RusNats, when she went out there with that serene confidence and left the ice on fire; she had that same assurance at the Channel One Cup, but today, it wasn't there. The fall on the second 4T looked nasty, but props to her for regrouping and for not just getting through the rest of the skate, but performing it as well. You would never have known that the quads had been unkind by the fierce smile on her face as she struck her final pose. I freely admit I had a good giggle at the judges when they parsed step out in her quad combo as an euler instead, but Russian domestic scoring has been allowing dodgy combinations all season, so at least they were consistent.

As for the battle for the Worlds spot between Liza and Aliona, I think Liza has booked her ticket. She has upped her technical game with that +3T on her 3Lz, she is getting her 3As landed, even if imperfectly, and she has improved her spins ... mostly. What happened in that last spin, Liza? What happened? Loved how she laughed it off, though. She really did deliver a convincing argument for that third spot today, on top of a season of pretty consistent improvement. And Aliona? She showed great bravery going out there today, after her devastation yesterday, and she skated clean. She landed her jumps. She delivered her spins. She got through that StSq, even though she looked like she had no breath left at all. Physically, this took a great effort from her. Mentally and emotionally, it showed determination and grit to rally after a disappointment, and to eke out everything from that final spin onwards. I hope she can be satisfied with her performance today, inasmuch as she understands that she delivered what she is currently capable of, and delivered it cleanly. Also, I liked her new FS's new dress! It reminds me a bit of Eva-Lotta Kiibus' dresses with geometric patterning - a nice clean design.
 
Now we wait. We wait to see if Liza gets what would be a very unexpected spot to Worlds.

Especially after those National skates where she was in no condition to perform.

She is already a world champion and that can never be taken away.
Even if she isn’t picked, she will always have that.
 
I honestly don't need Daria nor Kamila to compete anymore (they also look kind of tired? like just skating wise they both looked a bit more messy today), Maiia maybe one more to get more used to the quads. Daria needs to work on getting the 4S consistent (and probably 3A too) ASAP and Kamila needs to work on making her 4S consistent as well. Next season's battle for the Olympics just got more exciting.
There aren't that many competitions left. There's the older age national championships left, that's about it... By age they could participate I'm sure, but I'm not sure whether that'd be meaningful for them.
 
I honestly don't need Daria nor Kamila to compete anymore (they also look kind of tired? like just skating wise they both looked a bit more messy today), Maiia maybe one more to get more used to the quads. Daria needs to work on getting the 4S consistent (and probably 3A too) ASAP and Kamila needs to work on making her 4S consistent as well. Next season's battle for the Olympics just got more exciting.
They're done. That was the last competition. That's why they (and Maiia) did everything they could. And I'm glad all three ended the year on the podium.
 
Now we wait. We wait to see if Liza gets what would be a very unexpected spot to Worlds.

Especially after those National skates where she was in no condition to perform.

She is already a world champion and that can never be taken away.
Even if she isn’t picked, she will always have that.
I really doubt they aren't going to sent Liza to Worlds. Like, Anna apparently isn't age eligible (also she's not the most consistent either), Alyona needs more time to work on her jumps and rotations and Kseniia Sinitsyna wasn't even here. The only other person who could work is Tsibinova, who is pretty consistent, but like Liza has beaten her in the two times they've gone head to head so that makes no sense either.

There really is no other option and I personally think Liza absolutely deserves the Worlds spot.
 
Congratulations to the winners - TeamTut! :)
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Is that the Olympic team next year or the world's team? ;)

Congrats to the winners and to KV on trying some different things today. Experimenting in a competition like this was the right thing to do.

If Maya had skated like this would Zhenyas team have won? Congrats Maya on landing her to quads today and on winning the silver. Awesome. She just lights up the screen to like a movie star.
 
If Liza does not have the 3rd place in the World Cup it would be the biggest theft in history, not only from figure skating, but from sport in general... Liza even skated sick in the Russian nations, she had the dignity of to show up and not be absent saying that she was still ill... but with what happened today she showed that she more than 20 points above from Kostornaia...
 
They're done. That was the last competition. That's why they (and Maiia) did everything they could. And I'm glad all three ended the year on the podium.
Didn't Anna and Sasha perform at the Sparkatiad competition or something like that two seasons ago? I remember Alyona also did this competition in April where she just did her SP. Has the team said that the three of them won't be competing anymore? That makes sense obviously.
 
But that's not entirely fair. Anna Tarusina had plenty of charisma, her career just got derailed by the bus accident. Sofia Samodelkina and Elizaveta Berestovskaya both have plenty of charisma.
Tarusina and Somolelkina charismstic really? Not to my taste at least. But maybe Somolelkina is aquiring some x factor, she got the tech power tough. From Tarusina I only remember her satokoesq like small jumps, and always well prepared. Bereszovskaia yes I agree there is charisma potential, but isn't she with buyanova?

(Only my opinion of course)
 
What did you expect?


I find it hilarious that people bash skaters who bomb one or two competitions after leaving Eteri, but having all kind of excuses when it happens to her actuall skaters... When Trusova bombed last years nationals, it was not a big deal, but after her Rostelecom performance this season, there were snarky comments ( especially from that Hirsh guy on twitter, who behaves like a 12 yo girl :palmf: ). Yeah, as if this kind of things didn't happen while still being with Eteri. Bias and double standards are such a thing...:rolleye:
So much bile of course conveniently forgetting Valieva had a wonderful SP far ahead of her competitors. The girl still managed to land a beautiful 3A and 2 3-3 combo whilst trying an ambitious 3 quad program. That's still better than anything that's seen outside Russia. There is no double standards here only people who are totally blinded by their hate they can't even do basic scoring.
 
Didn't Anna and Sasha perform at the Sparkatiad competition or something like that two seasons ago? I remember Alyona also did this competition in April where she just did her SP. Has the team said that the three of them won't be competing anymore? That makes sense obviously.
They're skating as seniors in everything. The senior year is over.
 
So much bile of course conveniently forgetting Valieva had a wonderful SP far ahead of her competitors. The girl still managed to land a beautiful 3A and 2 3-3 combo whilst trying an ambitious 3 quad program. That's still better than anything that's seen outside Russia. There is no double standards here only people who are totally blinded by their hate they can't even do basic scoring.
Agreed. But you know you've arrived when posters in this forum hate you. Congrats Kamila. You've made it as a legitimate contender.
 
They already are. And every two years it‘s a new bunch. Didn‘t we just have a “historic“ trio of 14-15 year olds beating the outdated seniors? I could have sworn their names weren‘t Valieva, Usacheva and Khromykh.... time flies and Russian ladies skating even faster.

Anyway. Proud of Aliona for fighting. Only one pop, did the rest of the jumps without falls. URs of course, and loss of stamina in the second half but she made it through. For all who were so “concerned“ about her not breathing heavily enough after yesterday‘s SP - I hope today satisfied your expectations. It‘s perfectly clear she‘s suffering from COVID after effects and performances like those won‘t get her anywhere, even outside of Russia. It absolutely sucks she misses her second Worlds through absolutely no fault of her own but that‘s life. If she can fully recover, she can come back. How she‘ll fare at the ancient age of 18 against the army Eteri just unleashed once again is anyone‘s guess. Liza just made it to Worlds. Maybe she can make it to the post-Olympic Worlds in a similar fashion. Anyway, as a fan I‘m happy with what she did today.

Speaking of which: Good on Liza. Her skating does less than nothing for me (meaning, I pretty much dislike it) but what she‘s done for the sport is very admirable. There‘s no one like her and yes, she deserves that spot. Give it to her.

Khromykh: Landed the quads, did she? Surprising but it was bound to happen eventually, I guess. I don‘t care for any of the current front runners for the OG team in terms of skating (other than Trusova for her sheer tenacity and grit), so if anyone has to win, might as well make it Khromykh. That would at least be entertaining. And she does have a lot nice qualities.

Usacheva: She‘s a beautiful skater. Very solid, nice, good skating skills (other than that random stumble - probably still got positive GOE because...reasons?). I can‘t say she particularly moves me or anything but maybe if she gets better programs?

Valieva: it‘s kind of ridiculous that she still won with two falls on what seemed to be downgraded quads. But it‘s not like it matters much anyway. She‘s the favorite, with the 4S or without. Needs to be clean, though, and as we saw today, there can still be surprises.

I liked Frolova. She used to bore me, not anymore. Give her higher PCS please.
Kind of harsh assessments.

Most of these skaters seasons are over today and we should thank them all for giving all they have in a total cluster you know what of the season.

KV won yes. But she was experimenting Yuzu won Sochi Olympics flopping numerous times. KVs scoring potential is massive. Best 14 year old girl ever or at least since Tara. Obviously she's no sure thing for Olympic gold or even the Olympic team especially with Maya and Dasha nipping at her heels.
 
They're skating as seniors in everything. The senior year is over.
Wait, really? I always thought there were like five thousand other Russian competitions towards the end of the season but I guess I'm mistaken. Okay, well, then good. Now it's time to work on getting the 4S and 3A consistent Daria!
 
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