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I appreciate your effort to write this post and your investment in her. I will also happily note that she is a great athlete.
However, I stand by my opinion: she is no realistic contender for one of the Olympic spots.
Too many ladies who are better than her, more established than her and, very importantly, who the fed and fans are more invested or interested in, would have to falter. It won't happen for her, as it won't happen for so many other "second class" Russian ladies who would be National Champs in any other country. It is sad, unfair, and all the other things we've all said to describe the Russian Ladies Field's depth, but it's the reality.
I think Ksenia could challenge but then she need to hit her quad(s) consistently next season from the start. At this moment I agree she is way behind all other skaters mentioned.
 
Well. My opinion was that Aliona and Daria could realisticly replace Tier 1 skaters if they bring the 3A succesfully based on their other qualities. While Maiia even if she hits 1-2 quads dont have the other qualities to replace any of the Tier 1 skater at their current point. Same with Liza. Either the Tier 1 need to have issues or they need to upgrade to reach that level. Not that they need to upgrade to replace tier 2. Because I dont think they do. Tier 2 and 3 score similairly now but I see more potential in tier 2. You are free to disagree with that but I dont see Maiia with 2 quads replacing Sasha with 3 or Anna/Kamilla with 2 while I think Aliona proved last season that 3 3A and overall high quality skating can.
Oh I see. You're not creating a ranking, but rather considering who has the best chance to take 3 Olympics spots.
I would agree on Alyona's potential here, as we've seen her 3As 'in work' and how int'l judges love her.
I wouldn't agree on Daria though, as we've never seen any 3A or quad from her nor int'l judges supporting her.
 
Since she only hit them once so far YES. If she is more consistent next season this can deffinitely change.
Russian Cup final was a big sucess for Maiia but until she has more of those I dont think we can rely to much of that to predict future results.
I agree with this, that she has yet to prove herself as a favorite to make the team, but I actually expect her to come out next season with more consistency. Her success at RCF will give her a big confidence boost, and help her see herself as a real contender. And her training camp specializes in consistency.
 
Oh I see. You're not creating a ranking, but rather considering who has the best chance to take 3 Olympics spots.
I would agree on Alyona's potential here, as we've seen her 3As 'in work' and how int'l judges love her.
I wouldn't agree on Daria though, as we've never seen any 3A or quad from her nor int'l judges supporting her.
Well, they put Daria in front of Kseniia at the JGPF even though Kseniia definitely deserved the bronze at the very least based on their performances. International judges also put her in front of quad+3A girl Alysa even though Daria had no ultra-c elements at Junior Worlds.
 
I think they decided not to complicate the content in case Maiia pops or falls, but she could have done 2 -3T combinations and 7 triples like Anna does. If she thought on her feet she could have taken out the 2T and done 2A-3T which is 3 extra BV points right there.

4T/4S/3Lo-2T/2A/3Lz-3T/3F-eu-3S/3Lz

How her GOE and PCS progresses has to be seen, but right now she's maxing out at around 240.
 
Since she only hit them once so far YES. If she is more consistent next season this can deffinitely change.
Russian Cup final was a big sucess for Maiia but until she has more of those I dont think we can rely to much of that to predict future results.
Though she won twice over Liza this season for instance. Those categories tell more about the preferences than actual strength of the skater. Maiia currently belongs to the higher tier than Ksenia, sorry to her fans. There are skaters who people expect they will deliver quads for years and are ranked among the best and Maiia who actually landed them in a competition deserves proper appreciation.
 
Since she only hit them once so far YES. If she is more consistent next season this can deffinitely change.
Russian Cup final was a big sucess for Maiia but until she has more of those I dont think we can rely to much of that to predict future results.
Landing them once is all that's enough, right? That shows more potential to land them again than a skater who... never has landed one, right?

This is such a strange argument. Remember when Trusova landed her quads for the first time in 2018 WJC worlds? Was the narrative that she's a tier 3 skater because she only landed them once?
 
Landing them once is all that's enough, right? That shows more potential to land them again than a skater who... never has landed one, right?

This is such a strange argument. Remember when Trusova landed her quads for the first time in 2018 WJC worlds? Was the narrative that she's a tier 3 skater because she only landed them once?

Trusova was the only lady doing quads at that time. Now that you need a consistent quad to be a contender it is different
 
Well. My opinion was that Aliona and Daria could realisticly replace Tier 1 skaters if they bring the 3A succesfully based on their other qualities. While Maiia even if she hits 1-2 quads dont have the other qualities to replace any of the Tier 1 skater at their current point. Same with Liza. Either the Tier 1 need to have issues or they need to upgrade to reach that level. Not that they need to upgrade to replace tier 2. Because I dont think they do. Tier 2 and 3 score similairly now but I see more potential in tier 2. You are free to disagree with that but I dont see Maiia with 2 quads replacing Sasha with 3 or Anna/Kamilla with 2 while I think Aliona proved last season that 3 3A and overall high quality skating can.

It's been less than a month since we saw Maiia nail two quads.

It's been over a year since we last saw Aliona land a clean 3A.

Ya'll need to get your heads out of the clouds. You can't live in the 19/20 season forever.
 
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The Russian National Team is probably taking the 14.00 (Moscow time) flight from Sheremetyevo to Arlanda, Stockholm. They seem to be on their way 🤔
the whole team, officials and reporters are flying on a chartered flight.
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Alexandra Trusova recently gave a short - and disappointing - interview. She mentioned the WC medal is not her primary target without hinting what is it instead.
Pluschenko added few grains saying "Sasha is in her pubertal period... Requires a very careful treatment... etc."
Pretty sure it’s how everyone is giving interviews: be careful with words, don’t appear overly ambitious, stay humble. I see nothing wrong with what Sasha said.
 
They're still just in Novogorsk, Russia at the training camp though. Are the alternates traveling?
I would hope so especially with the way Corona virus can change things alternates are never more important than now.

What other minimum place is the Russian girls have to get to keep the three spots for the Olympics? I do not expect the close call to losing one spot like happened at 2018 worlds.
 
Alexandra Trusova recently gave a short - and disappointing - interview. She mentioned the WC medal is not her primary target without hinting what is it instead.
Pluschenko added few grains saying "Sasha is in her pubertal period... Requires a very careful treatment... etc."

Is plushie saying Sasha is in her period heading into worlds or is she going through puberty because she's been going through puberty for like 2 years?

Good luck to Sasha I hope nothing is bothering her when she gets to Stockholm.

On a side note it must be very nice for all of these great skaters and they alternates in the coaches to actually get out of the country for a short period of time. The pandemic trapped everyone in their respective homelands.
 
It's been less than a month since we saw Maiia nail two quads.

It's been over a year since we last saw Aliona land a clean 3A.

Ya'll need to get your heads out of the clouds. You can't live in the 19/20 season forever.
It's not said that Maiia can land those quads next week or a year from now on.
It's not said that Kosto wont jump the 3A ever again
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Regarding Maiia, people doesnt seem to realize that If we talk about PCS scoring, even with flawed routines hers was able to hold up. Her PCS doesnt fluctuate or get significantly worse even with back to back to back flawed routines. Usually skaters gets buried with that kind of trend but not her. So it is easy to see that PCS scoring wise judges already view her as a tier 2 or even tier 1 skater.

Her 2 quad layout even feels like very conservative. She is still leaving a lot of points by not repeating a quad and adding a second 3T. While there are talks of 3A and even a quad for Daria and Alyona we still have not seen those unlike Maiia that already integrated the quads in her program.

So it is not unrealistic to expect that Maiia will have 3 quads and 3 3-3 jump combo next season which is mind blowing because her BV will be comparable to the tier 1 skaters.

Consistency is a big question mark for her but should be treated as same with all the ladies who are doing easier layout now that will be doing major jump upgrades next season. Heck even the tier 1 skaters are not consistent with theirs.

The biggest question mark for Maiia is her popping jump tendencies. She should always go for it even if she falls.
 
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