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Nugumanova is a social media star? But she only has 42k followers on instagram and she would be practically unheard of to the general public compared to Alina or Evgenia. Is she a tiktok star or something like that? Honestly sponsorships is such a weird thing. For instance Elizabet just got an adidas sponsorship yet she hasnt competed for 2 years and we're not sure if she will compete again. And there's Alena who's selling Plushenko toothpastes and some niche sportwear.
Oh no, you didn't. :eek:
 
And there's Alena who's selling Plushenko toothpastes and some niche sportwear.
How on earth is she still selling toothpaste? I’ve looked on Instagram and that whole thing is Plushenko. Also, how are you even sponsored for a toothpaste company? It’s not like she is wearing toothpaste? How does that whole sponsorship work?
 
How on earth is she still selling toothpaste? I’ve looked on Instagram and that whole thing is Plushenko. Also, how are you even sponsored for a toothpaste company? It’s not like she is wearing toothpaste? How does that whole sponsorship work?

You take pictures holding the toothpaste and selfies showing your bathroom counter with it, packing for a competition showing it, etc. Check out some others that have sponsorships you see the same product placement.
 
I have seen many good quad toe loops by Kamila, but this one is a true thing of beauty. Simply gorgeous. Cannot imaging a better one

As someone on here already said: her 4T looks more effortless than other girls' triples.

Kamila is clearly the next "evolution level" of that camp, 3-3 --> 3-3Lo backloading --> 4s or 3A --> now 4s and 3A plus perfect spins, extensions, steps... she really has no weaknesses scoring-wise, except for lacking maturity in her expressive ability, which is normal at 14yo.

I have been wondering, is there even another "evolution level" to go to for Eteri after the next crop (Akatieva, Petrosyan) ? Cause that crop is "4s and 3A in combination, starting in juniors". Can you even go any further than that technically? The only way to still upgrade that would be to start jumping 5s or 4A or 3A-4s combos, which are obviously not realistic, even for an Eteri girl, not even men jump that. Or stop with the 3s all together and start doing programs like Nathan Chen? I'm just wondering if that factory will ever find a ceiling to stagnate at, cause for almost 10 years now, it's only kept going and going...
 
As someone on here already said: her 4T looks more effortless than other girls' triples.

Kamila is clearly the next "evolution level" of that camp, 3-3 --> 3-3Lo backloading --> 4s or 3A --> now 4s and 3A plus perfect spins, extensions, steps... she really has no weaknesses scoring-wise, except for lacking maturity in her expressive ability, which is normal at 14yo.

I have been wondering, is there even another "evolution level" to go to for Eteri after the next crop (Akatieva, Petrosyan) ? Cause that crop is "4s and 3A in combination, starting in juniors". Can you even go any further than that technically? The only way to still upgrade that would be to start jumping 5s or 4A or 3A-4s combos, which are obviously not realistic, even for an Eteri girl, not even men jump that. Or stop with the 3s all together and start doing programs like Nathan Chen? I'm just wondering if that factory will ever find a ceiling to stagnate at, cause for almost 10 years now, it's only kept going and going...
Many Eteri skaters right now have the second half 3Lz-3T, 3F-Eu-3S, 3Lz, so 10 years from now I expect an Eteri student to be the first one to do two backloaded 4Lz and 4F as the next level. Something like

3A-3T
4S
4T
3Lz
4Lz-3T
4F-Eu-3S
4Lz
 
Many Eteri skaters right now have the second half 3Lz-3T, 3F-Eu-3S, 3Lz, so 10 years from now I expect an Eteri student to be the first one to do two backloaded 4Lz and 4F as the next level. Something like

3A-3T
4S
4T
3Lz
4Lz-3T
4F-Eu-3S
4Lz
We laugh at this now but in 4 years somebody's going to quote this post in the 2025-26 RLT and everyone will make that one recurring comment about how quickly the ladies' field advances.
 
Sotnikova saying Kaori scores were home inflated over Elizaveta at WTT. Well she's one to speak. https://twitter.com/hhjhjkvkc/status/1384564752555331585
I think Adelina was always a good friend of Liza? I might be wrong. Probably not as close as she is with Evg. Tarasova, but they looked like good friends, so perhaps Adelina is just speaking more as a friend.
Liza made some mistakes and Kao was on fire, it’s hard to make an argument for Liza‘s win over Kaori.
 
As someone on here already said: her 4T looks more effortless than other girls' triples.

Kamila is clearly the next "evolution level" of that camp, 3-3 --> 3-3Lo backloading --> 4s or 3A --> now 4s and 3A plus perfect spins, extensions, steps... she really has no weaknesses scoring-wise, except for lacking maturity in her expressive ability, which is normal at 14yo.
That's why Kamila's emergence was rather expected if you were paying attention, assuming she's not too affected by puberty and injuries.

Both Aliona and Sasha have weaknesses. Anna is kinda a combination of both of their strengths but does neither as well as they do and she has her own weaknesses.

Kamila on the other hand, is an even better combination and on top of that is younger and has a fairly ideal birthday to peak in an Olympic season.

Obviously a lot can happen, and even if all avoid injuries, dealing with the pressure might be the biggest obstacle.
 
Trusova backloaded 2 quads at Worlds a lutz and the toe combination, granted neither were cleanly landed
Yes, I know. The poster said two backloaded 4Lz and 4F and that was not the case though.

But it's also why I said Sasha will probably be the first because she's already attempting backloaded quads. Kamila's tried a backloaded 4T too although that wasn't clean. Kamila also doesn't have a 4Lz or 4F.
 
Yes, I know. The poster said two backloaded 4Lz and 4F and that was not the case though.

But it's also why I said Sasha will probably be the first because she's already attempting backloaded quads. Kamila's tried a backloaded 4T too although that wasn't clean. Kamila also doesn't have a 4Lz or 4F.
Just to add on, I remember there being a practice session at JWC 2019 when Anna fell on her 4Lz at the start of the program, so she just went for it in the second half of her program where the 3Lz-3T usually would be. Landed it clean in combination with a 3T. It made me wonder if that was actually supposed to be the backup plan for if she fell on the 4Lz at JWC, or if she just did it impromptu, but either way it means she's got the potential for backloading quads as well. Sasha will still probably be the first, though, especially given her layout.
 
Sotnikova saying Kaori scores were home inflated over Elizaveta at WTT. Well she's one to speak. https://twitter.com/hhjhjkvkc/status/1384564752555331585

Would you feel better if yulia said it?

It's time for people whether their former Russian skaters or people in the media to stop having their Russian girls get battered internationally by complaints. Thats going to exist next year ad naseum especially with the KaMissile Sasha Anya and Kosto putting up big scores no one else other than maybe Rika can touch. complaining about the Russian ladies big scores is going to be unbelievable so maybe Adelina thinks throw a monkey wrench into that strategy by mildly complaining about Kaoris score. It's unfortunate it may have to come to that but it will. Maybe Adelina is making a point that she a former Olympic champion has the backs of her girls no matter what. Nobody else does. Other than fans of course.

As for home cooking favoring the home favorites that's going to be hard to eliminate.
 
Many Eteri skaters right now have the second half 3Lz-3T, 3F-Eu-3S, 3Lz, so 10 years from now I expect an Eteri student to be the first one to do two backloaded 4Lz and 4F as the next level. Something like

3A-3T
4S
4T
3Lz
4Lz-3T
4F-Eu-3S
4Lz
Yeah, so a Nathan Chen style program.
I'd be very curious to see how jumping 4s and 3A starting from age 10 and younger will affect, if at all, these girls' joints and bone growth. I'm not one of the people who say "raise the age limit, prohibit x y z content until age x y z", actually can't stand those arguments. I simply wonder. If I had to guess now, the age of retiremnte will simply become younger and younger, in accordance with everything else becoming younger and younger.
Start ultra C at 10, be at your top technical level at 13, peak at 15, retire at 16 either due to your body giving in or not being able to compete against the next 15yo anymore.
And there will be those who wanna stop this evolution of the sport and those who accept the "natural" development of it.
 
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