Maybe a replacement for that yearly time waster "Champs Camp". Seems a bit early in the summer, not sure everyone will have their new programs in place, etc.
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Hahaha, Champs camp does seem like a time waster doesn't it? Seems it prioritizes bringing in former skaters and team leaders to give teamwork speeches.
I'm sure a lot of good happens but a lot of nonsense happens too.
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It's impossible to assess artistry without music, but I will say this. Her overall ice coverage, posture, and positions look much improved since I last saw her at US Nats. She looked like a young lady, and not a little girl. Well done.www.facebook.com
Her program begins at 5h19m. Looks to me like she was experimenting with her layout because I think she intentionally zayaked her second 3Lo.
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Whatever "U.S. Junior Team Cup" turns out to be, I don't see how it could be a replacement for Champs Camp, which is for Seniors with GP assignments.
The JGP season starts in mid-August, so the beginning of July would not be too early to expect JGP hopefuls to have their new programs in pretty good shape.
[I don't agree that Champs Camp is a time-waster, whether we're talking about the on-ice or off-ice parts.
For example, I recall that a Champs Camp keynote speaker (with multiple World titles and Olympic medals in a different sport) gave a piece of advice that struck a chord with Angela Wang, who posted the particular quote on her mirror as a daily reminder.
Also: I am not an athlete, but from a corporate point of view, I can understand that team-building could be helpful in creating/nurturing a support system that later proves to be beneficial "on the job" -- such as on a high-pressure foreign assignment in an unfamiliar setting (and perhaps without fluency in the native language).]
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I am a little puzzled by the description of "Champs Camp" as a time waster?
Programs are changed at Champs Camp. From what I understand, away from the kibitzing of devoted fans, honest feedback is given at Champs Camp. I believe Gracie got the help she needed because of Champs Camp.
I'm setting up a straw person here, but I never understood "Competitions to the death" or god forbid, "jump offs to the death" to assess a skater's competition readiness or a skater's programs.
These are competitive driven athletes. Skaters will show how they do in competition in competition.
Allowing skaters to blow off a little steam and interact with each other in non-competition settings sounds to me like a great idea.
Programs are changed at Champs Camp. From what I understand, away from the kibitzing of devoted fans, honest feedback is given at Champs Camp. I believe Gracie got the help she needed because of Champs Camp.
I'm setting up a straw person here, but I never understood "Competitions to the death" or god forbid, "jump offs to the death" to assess a skater's competition readiness or a skater's programs.
These are competitive driven athletes. Skaters will show how they do in competition in competition.Allowing skaters to blow off a little steam and interact with each other in non-competition settings sounds to me like a great idea.
Everything she needs to succeed she can do-BUT, I would like to see her command the ice more. I think that is what is missing. (Gabby skated right after her, and the difference in speed and confidence was huge, even though many of Gabby's jumps were off balance). I have no clue what her music is, but she needs to inhabit it a bit better as well.
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I believe she is skating to the Queen's Gambit? I could be wrong.
Sometimes a 'break' in training is not a good thing. Especially not at a critical time. Were it held in May-not so bad. (They get goodie bags, etc) Traditionally the summer is dedicated to the most intense training to get ready for the season-even for juvenile, intermediate ladies. School starts in the fall, and most skaters have to cut back on training time when the season actually starts. (For those who actually attend school). By August, most skaters are now just refining new programs, and working on actually having the stamina to get through them -which is not an easy task. Champs Camp is more about Public relations for the USFSA- any actual tips could be provided virtually, or after performances in lightweight summer competitions. It does appear though, that the Milwaukee competition is going to be exactly that for the most part-without the Kum Bah Yah spirit circles.I am a little puzzled by the description of "Champs Camp" as a time waster?
Programs are changed at Champs Camp. From what I understand, away from the kibitzing of devoted fans, honest feedback is given at Champs Camp. I believe Gracie got the help she needed because of Champs Camp.
I'm setting up a straw person here, but I never understood "Competitions to the death" or god forbid, "jump offs to the death" to assess a skater's competition readiness or a skater's programs.
Allowing skaters to blow off a little steam and interact with each other in non-competition settings sounds to me like a great idea.
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I'm afraid I don't agree that the feedback can be given virtually, given the varying quality of the videos I have seen
. I know that skaters get feedback after each "designated" summer comp, and that's a good thing, but I also think it's a good thing to have it in private at an event designed just for feedback. from what I understand, the fluff is what's shown to the outside, not the main purpose.And I'm a miserable old cuss who will tell you how I walked ten miles barefoot in the snow to school (uphill both ways), unlike these young whippernsnappers.
And I have no problem with Kumbayah Spirit Circles. Good for them.
So I think we will just disagree on that one.
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To add to el henry's comments: After working from home for more than a year, I agree that there's a lot you can do virtually. But to say it's the same as being there....I don't agree (granted I'm not in the figure skating field). Also I've heard some very positive comments from the skaters about Champs Camp. Even if they do have "spirit circles" and PR obligations, my understanding is that plenty of skating work goes on there, too. Ultimately I'm curious about what the majority of skaters themselves -- and their coaches -- have to say about it.I'm afraid I don't agree that the feedback can be given virtually, given the varying quality of the videos I have seen
And I'm a miserable old cuss who will tell you how I walked ten miles barefoot in the snow to school (uphill both ways), unlike these young whippernsnappers.
And in the absence of a centralized training environment (not saying we should have one - or that it would even be feasible - there are some benefits, of course), I don't think it's a bad thing to get everyone together for a unified, team experience once a year.
Just my thoughts.
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From someone that's been to my own share of champs camps, I have to widely disagree with many of these points. Also from past training experience, it's held when it is because it gives the skaters/teams time to train their new programs and learn the choreography, etc so they have them for champs camp panel to look over.
Yes, there is some USFS PR work, but that isn't all it is, it really is very athlete focused and making sure they are going out on the circuit in the fall with the best they can.
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Free online event with Mirai Nagasu, Miki Ando, Yuka Sato -- moderated by Nancy Kerrigan.
Hosted by Japan Society (based in NYC).
Hosted by Japan Society (based in NYC).
Passing the Torch
Tuesday, June 29, 8 PM EDT
Champion figure skaters from Japan and the U.S. speak out about training and competing, the athletic mindset and resiliency in overcoming challenges, superfans and the extreme popularity of the sport in Japan, and life after competitive skating. ...
Viewers will be able to ask direct questions during this interactive online program.
Program Details: This is a free event, with advance registration required. Suggested donations are also available to support our innovative programs. This program will be conducted online via Zoom. Registrants will receive the viewing link by email in advance of the event.
japansociety.org
Tuesday, June 29, 8 PM EDT
Champion figure skaters from Japan and the U.S. speak out about training and competing, the athletic mindset and resiliency in overcoming challenges, superfans and the extreme popularity of the sport in Japan, and life after competitive skating. ...
Viewers will be able to ask direct questions during this interactive online program.
Program Details: This is a free event, with advance registration required. Suggested donations are also available to support our innovative programs. This program will be conducted online via Zoom. Registrants will receive the viewing link by email in advance of the event.
The Inside Edge: Skating Champions from Japan & the U.S.
Champion figure skaters from Japan and the U.S. speak out about training and competing, the athletic mindset and resiliency in overcoming challenges, superfans
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A little more re U.S. Junior Team Cup, if anyone is interested:
Skate Milwaukee will have "Junior Cup" singles events that are separate from its "normal" Junior singles events.
In other words, Skate Milwaukee will have four different categories of junior singles:
In other words, Skate Milwaukee will have four different categories of junior singles:
- Junior Cup ladies SP and FS
- Junior Cup men SP and FS
- Junior ladies SP and FS
- Junior men SP and FS
- Junior Cup men SP and FS
- Junior ladies SP and FS
- Junior men SP and FS
Only my speculation, but maybe the Junior Cup singles events are by USFS invitation only???
(Again, I have not watched the TSL video mentioned by ptvvibezz -- I do not know what TSL discussed.)
Anyway, U.S. has two ladies spots at each of the seven JGP events, thanks to Alysa's third place at 2020 Junior Worlds.
And the U.S. has one men's spot at each of the seven JGPs, thanks to Max Naumov's fifth place at 2020 JW.
(If one assumes that all seven JGPs can be held this season.)
And if anyone is wondering about Aerial Challenge for this year, it is scheduled to return as an in-person competition at Broadmoor Open.
Thu Jul 1, according to the latest Broadmoor schedule.
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New article about Paige Rydberg' s sad experience at US National
and her goals for the new season. I hope that in new seson everything will return to normal.
Good luck to her!
and her goals for the new season. I hope that in new seson everything will return to normal.Good luck to her!
In the Olympic season, Paige Rydberg wants “no regrets” - Figure Skaters Online
The 2020-2021 figure skating season was full of uncertainty for all skaters. Still, when Paige Rydberg looks back at it, she calls it her best season yet -- despite it not looking like that on the surface.
figureskatersonline.com
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Alysa Liu is in Italy with Massimo Scali and Jeremy Abbott at the Young Goose Academy. The YGA posted a reel of Alysa working with Lorenzo Magri on the harness.
Also, fs.delights on Instagram posted a video of Yuna Kim at 2009 Skate America signing an autograph for young Audrey Shin, the 2020 Skate America bronze medalist!
Also, fs.delights on Instagram posted a video of Yuna Kim at 2009 Skate America signing an autograph for young Audrey Shin, the 2020 Skate America bronze medalist!
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Fixed that for you.
Also, they've (Scali-Abbott camp) actually been there(Italy) for weeks now.
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Thanks for the correction!Fixed that for you.
Also, they've (Scali-Abbott camp) actually been there(Italy) for weeks now. The coach in the photo with Alysa on harness is Lorenzo Magri.
what's that?
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From their website:
The YGA was born in 2013 from the inspiration and vision of Lorenzo Magri, an esteemed figure skating teacher, to found a skating academy that gives athletes the opportunity to train in all their aspects, respecting the values that distinguish sportsmanship. . A healthy and constructive environment in which to cultivate a passion that requires time and determination.
After a short period, other professional teachers participate in the project who, with the same enthusiasm and above all with the same spirit, embrace Lorenzo's project.
Passion, innovation, synergy, motivation, union. These are the 5 keywords that push the team to give their best every day for their athletes. The YGA is a complete academy that takes care of the skater in all his needs, on and off the rink using high-level technicians such as dance instructors, athletic trainers, yoga teachers, physiotherapists, nutritionists and psychologists. It expands its collaborations with the national teams of different countries including Austria, Canada, Croatia, France, Germany, Japan, Kazakhstan, Czech Republic, Slovak Republic, Serbia, Slovenia, Switzerland, Russia, favoring the exchange and meeting with athletes from all over the world who know they can find at the Würtharena a training place with a serene and motivating atmosphere.
The academy currently boasts about fifty athletes, including many young talents who are already part of the Italian national team.
To facilitate the performance of all sporting activities, school support could not be missing, which allows children to attend school within the academy itself and thus complete their training day.
More info: https://www.ygacademy.it/
The YGA was born in 2013 from the inspiration and vision of Lorenzo Magri, an esteemed figure skating teacher, to found a skating academy that gives athletes the opportunity to train in all their aspects, respecting the values that distinguish sportsmanship. . A healthy and constructive environment in which to cultivate a passion that requires time and determination.
After a short period, other professional teachers participate in the project who, with the same enthusiasm and above all with the same spirit, embrace Lorenzo's project.
Passion, innovation, synergy, motivation, union. These are the 5 keywords that push the team to give their best every day for their athletes. The YGA is a complete academy that takes care of the skater in all his needs, on and off the rink using high-level technicians such as dance instructors, athletic trainers, yoga teachers, physiotherapists, nutritionists and psychologists. It expands its collaborations with the national teams of different countries including Austria, Canada, Croatia, France, Germany, Japan, Kazakhstan, Czech Republic, Slovak Republic, Serbia, Slovenia, Switzerland, Russia, favoring the exchange and meeting with athletes from all over the world who know they can find at the Würtharena a training place with a serene and motivating atmosphere.
The academy currently boasts about fifty athletes, including many young talents who are already part of the Italian national team.
To facilitate the performance of all sporting activities, school support could not be missing, which allows children to attend school within the academy itself and thus complete their training day.
More info: https://www.ygacademy.it/
She could work there with kostner on a new lori choreo too! Hope she does use the opportunity
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