2022-23 Coaching, Country and Discipline changes
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I was also taken by surprise, but I mean the text can´t be misunderstood - it says clearly they are looking forward to be doing pairs together and looking forward to next seasonIs it a joke? Dr V says in his and Alina's Ig stories that he is going to a new chapter as a pair skater. In the photo he is lifting a girl named Tilda Alteruud.Edit. From Valtter's personal ig https://www.instagram.com/p/CtcF9d-r7Z6/?utm_source=ig_web_copy_link&igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==
Wow, how cool!
Something really great is cooking in the Nordics countries these days, Finland will now have skaters in every discipline, and the same goes for Sweden who just went from 0 ID teams to 2 in the last couple of weeks.
Also there is a Norwegian female skater who was at the pairs seminar in Bergamo and who is looking for a partner to pursue pairs. Hopefully there will be Norwegian pairs team announced as well in the future, and then Norway will also have skaters in every discipline.
So Denmark, will you follow?
It has been a large amount of disciplines changes so far, i´m not sure we are done yet.
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Honestly, I'm happy and have a lot of respect for any skater who dares to try a new discipline because they want to stay in the sport for as long as possible.I was also taken by surprise, but I mean the text can´t be misunderstood - it says clearly they are looking forward to be doing pairs together and looking forward to next season
Wow, how cool!
Something really great is cooking in the Nordics countries these days, Finland will now have skaters in every discipline, and the same goes for Sweden who just went from 0 ID teams to 2 in the last couple of weeks.
Also there is a Norwegian female skater who was at the pairs seminar in Bergamo and who is looking for a partner to pursue pairs. Hopefully there will be Norwegian pairs team announced as well in the future, and then Norway will also have skaters in every discipline.
So Denmark, will you follow?
It has been a large amount of disciplines changes so far, i´m not sure we are done yet.
It's definitely not easy and speaks of a great love for figure skating and a very strong work ethic.
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say what?Is it a joke? Dr V says in his and Alina's Ig stories that he is going to a new chapter as a pair skater. In the photo he is lifting a girl named Tilda Alteruud.
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Well, I kind of understand it after biting the news for a while. Valtter made his peak last season and he is not able to learn quads. He has many national titles and competition in men in national level has never before been so extensive as it is now. But he still wants to skate, so why not to try. And Valtter has bought time from an arena in a small village the family lives near, which has no big ice hockey history. So maybe they, Valtter and Alina, are looking for to invest in pair skating in their coaching in the future? Just a series of quesses. Probably local fed will give they annoucement with interviews soon, I wil be back when it will happen, maybe it is worth of own topic.
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I think it's quite wonderful how much Valtter loves figure skating, and how he has invested so much into being a competitive skater. He's brought a lot of charm, joy, and inspiration with his enormous passion for skating. Age is just a number. While being an older athlete/ performer/ competitor presents numerous challenges, being older doesn't mean having to stop pursuing your desires and dreams.
Regarding Tilda leaving her younger Canadian pairs partner, apparently she is excited about representing a Nordic country, closer to home, which means a better opportunity to go to Worlds and Euros. Did she already obtain Canadian citizenship? If not, that's another reason to move back to a region where she may have less issues and a shorter time period gaining citizenship.
Regarding Tilda leaving her younger Canadian pairs partner, apparently she is excited about representing a Nordic country, closer to home, which means a better opportunity to go to Worlds and Euros. Did she already obtain Canadian citizenship? If not, that's another reason to move back to a region where she may have less issues and a shorter time period gaining citizenship.
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i doubt she even had time to apply for it. I am supportive of Dr V. Happy we will see him again. Gabriel is such a talent however, it seems odd to leave a young talented pairs partner... but I am looking forward to seeing what Tylda and the Doc will do together. As for Farand, who knows??? Maybe he is done ? Maybe he has another partner? It was very early in their partnership to say how far they could go..
Age is indeed just a number... however, I wouldn't compare it quite to someone like Deanna....who took a long hiatus from the sport. Dr V's body may not like lifting and throwing at some point. I wish them all the best though. PS Canada is also a nordic country
We the NORTH ! 
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Very good point. And it is always nice to see Deanna being used as an example. She is a real inspiration.
But don't forget about Zoe Jones, who also took a long hiatus from the sport. Admittedly, it wasn't quite as long because Zoe initially retired a season after Deanna, and then came back a season before Deanna. However, Zoe came back at an an older age, because Deanna is 3 years and 5 months younger than her.
By the way, I don't know if you heard, but Zoe became a mother again at the start of April.
It will be interesting to see if Arya goes on to follow in the footsteps of her parents and her older sisters...
PS Canada is also a nordic country
Very clever!
But, don't you be thinking of this as reasoning for sneaking your way into Europeans! It won't work!
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Canada's been to Euros before... Barbara Ann Scott won it twice...Very good point. And it is always nice to see Deanna being used as an example. She is a real inspiration.
But don't forget about Zoe Jones, who also took a long hiatus from the sport. Admittedly, it wasn't quite as long because Zoe initially retired a season after Deanna, and then came back a season before Deanna. However, Zoe came back at an an older age, because Deanna is 3 years and 5 months younger than her.
By the way, I don't know if you heard, but Zoe became a mother again at the start of April.
It will be interesting to see if Arya goes on to follow in the footsteps of her parents and her older sisters...
Very clever!
But, don't you be thinking of this as reasoning for sneaking your way into Europeans! It won't work!
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If I recall correctly, skaters from outside Europe had been allowed to compete at Europeans until 1948, when BA won ladies singles and Dick Button won the men's event. That's when -- and why -- they changed the rules and restricted it to European skaters only.Canada's been to Euros before... Barbara Ann Scott won it twice...
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The thing I don't particularly like about this switch is that from what I read he doubts he can make the big championships as a single skater anymore.
And of course in pairs there is less competition and because he's from a small fed he might make it this way.
I don't know, it's one more move that doesn't shine the best light on the level in pairs in my opinion.
And of course in pairs there is less competition and because he's from a small fed he might make it this way.
I don't know, it's one more move that doesn't shine the best light on the level in pairs in my opinion.
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It's not about the level of pairs, it's about the spread of TES within a discipline and the variance in difficulty performed, and thus the minimum TES set for Euros/4CC and Worlds.
For reference, at this year's Worlds the spread of TES in men's skating was 31.67 points in the SP and 49.99 in the Free. In pairs, it was 22.44 in the Short, and 29.02 in the Free. In Ice Dance, it was 26.9 in the Short and 24.72 in the Free and in Women's, it was 21.21 in the Short and 26.29 in the Free. It's clear where the variation of performed difficulty is much larger.
It's also easier to get to Worlds as an Ice Dance team, but I would not say the level is low at all in Ice Dance. There's just a way larger number of skaters attempting to achieve min TES and actually managing to do so. (76% of ice dance teams had the required TES minimums for this seasons' Worlds compared to 74% of pairs teams, 40% of men and only 26% of women).
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Yep, and they're actually both experienced pairs skaters and have ample opportunity for getting their minimums (compared to only one competition before Euros for Alteryd/Virtanen).
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I'm not sure if I understand your argument regarding the TES spreading correctly.
Just to be clear I think the level at the top in pairs is extremely high, but it falls off very soon and especially so in Europe.
In men's the level beneath the top isn't that amazing either, though.
Not even sure how to put my feelings about this into words.
Edit: Re-reading your post I think I understand what you want to tell me, but my problem is likely more with the general fact that apart from women's where there's a special situation there is such a gap between the top skaters and the rest and that you can get to the Olympics and such by being a small fed skater/couple with a rather low TES. If you aren't good enough anymore to even get this in men's despite that (that sounds more demeaning than it is intended, Virtaanen is a great skater to watch) and you switch to pairs because there it is still possible, then... hm.
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Of course, Valtter's journey is not like Deanna's. I didn't mention Deanna in my comments. The point is, whatever our age, we should never let go of our passions.
Since you bring up Deanna, in her case, injury forced her to stop skating, so she moved on to pursue other goals. Yet, her passion for skating never left her. Altho' being off competitive ice for so long may have given Deanna's body a new lease on life and less fs wear and tear, the biggest reasons she has been successful coming back is because of her fierce will, talent, and determination. Plus, she's been blessed with luck -- but we often make our own luck through intentionality and desire.
Again, altho' Valtter's journey is completely different, he shares with Deanna, desire, hard work, determination, and force of will.
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LOL! Nordic Europe, then. Not the same as Canuck North...PS Canada is also a nordic country
Anyway, my original comment was: "a Nordic country, closer to home," thus, still accurate.
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well aware of thisLOL! Nordic Europe, then. Not the same as Canuck North...
Anyway, my original comment was: "a Nordic country, closer to home," thus, still accurate.
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