2023-24 Canadian Figure Skating

[4everchan]

Isn't Gabriella Izzo still attending college?

so is Thierry ...

 

[chuckm]

Gabriella is attending Harvard.

 

[4everchan]

Gabriella is attending Harvard.

And? Why would her education be more important than his? If their goal is skating together at the Olympics, both of them will need to compromise one way or another, and that will be for them to evaluate...

 

[NanaPat]

Gabriella is attending Harvard.

And training in Colorado?

 

[4everchan]

Next Gen competition was this weekend.

I would say that our juniors are more or less following the same trajectory as our seniors.... Dance and Pairs are doing well... I was especially amazed by a brand new team of Ariano Kent and Laliberté-Laurent. VERY STRONG, doing triples and landing them with easy comfortable intricate lifts for a male partner who skated novice last year.

Singles : lots of work to do. however in the women, there is hope. Rose did skate very well. Uliana needs to work on basic skating but the jumps are there. Lulu, Mély Ann, Hetty... some good skaters in our juniors. It wasn't a good event for either Kara or Aleksa which is unfortunate.

In the men. SIGH. Only Rio Morita had decent content. Terry Jin landed his jumps but no + 1 bonus jumps. (quads/3a) the other men all had issues except for david howes who is a very nice skater but hasn't fully developed his arsenal for now.

Anthony Paradis, former Junior champion (two years ago) popped... and Edward Vasii, last year's NJC was MIA.

I'd trade in some men spots on JGP for a few more women if that were possible.

 

[Jumping_Bean]

(Preliminary) JGP Bangkok assignments (according to the ISU entry page):
Men: Grayson Long, Rio Morita
Women: Hetty Shi
Ice Dance: Victoria Carandiuc/Andrei Carandiuc, Layla Veillon/Alexander Brandys

 

[4everchan]

Interesting choices... The only "winner" assigned at the first event is Rio. Grayson finished 3rd but wasn't spectacular at all... Hetty finished 4th and VB, 5th and the Carandiucs even lower... though for the dance teams, both of these teams have been skating together for a while and are steady.

It will be interesting to see the long term strategy of Skate Canada - if there is any... sometimes it looks like they put skaters' name in a hat and picked .

 

[Jumping_Bean]

Interesting choices... The only "winner" assigned at the first event is Rio. Grayson finished 3rd but wasn't spectacular at all... Hetty finished 4th and VB, 5th and the Carandiucs even lower... though for the dance teams, both of these teams have been skating together for a while and are steady.

It will be interesting to see the long term strategy of Skate Canada - if there is any... sometimes it looks like they put skaters' name in a hat and picked .

Honestly, for the Ice Dancers, it makes sense to also send out lower-ranked teams, because there are 14 spots, so at least 7 teams can be sent and that's the minimum if they all get two spots (which they won't).
With Fradji/Fourneaux, Neset/Markelov and Hauer/Starr being assigned here, it might be better that the top Canadian skaters aren't forced to meet them yet.

As for the women, I have a feeling they'll just send out the top 4 women, and choose two of them to send to a second JGP depending on the international results.

And in men's, there are also enough spots and nobody who really stands out apart from Rio, so whether they send out Grayson here or later is not really important. Rio is in really good form, so sending him early (when maybe some others aren't at their best yet) is a really logical choice.

 

[4everchan]

Honestly, for the Ice Dancers, it makes sense to also send out lower-ranked teams, because there are 14 spots, so at least 7 teams can be sent and that's the minimum if they all get two spots (which they won't).
With Fradji/Fourneaux, Neset/Markelov and Hauer/Starr being assigned here, it might be better that the top Canadian skaters aren't forced to meet them yet.

As for the women, I have a feeling they'll just send out the top 4 women, and choose two of them to send to a second JGP depending on the international results.

And in men's, there are also enough spots and nobody who really stands out apart from Rio, so whether they send out Grayson here or later is not really important. Rio is in really good form, so sending him early (when maybe some others aren't at their best yet) is a really logical choice.

I don't trust the other countries assignments LOL... Some feds often change late, but yes... your point is valid... if Skate Canada did look at the entry list and saw these 3 experienced and strong teams, might as well send lower ranked teams. However, I don't think any of our dance teams will make a wave on the circuit this year. I feel like the teams with more potential were just freshly made and have work to do before really hitting their stride. Re the women, often, they just sent each girl once and it probably will be the same... I feel nobody is really ready for JGP that early anyway... summer sectionals are still happening and some programs look very fresh. In any case, it's good that they are starting finally to make announcements... knowing who is attending what event is always an incentive to get into the season.

 

[Cutting the ice]

Honestly, for the Ice Dancers, it makes sense to also send out lower-ranked teams, because there are 14 spots, so at least 7 teams can be sent and that's the minimum if they all get two spots (which they won't).
With Fradji/Fourneaux, Neset/Markelov and Hauer/Starr being assigned here, it might be better that the top Canadian skaters aren't forced to meet them yet.

As for the women, I have a feeling they'll just send out the top 4 women, and choose two of them to send to a second JGP depending on the international results.

And in men's, there are also enough spots and nobody who really stands out apart from Rio, so whether they send out Grayson here or later is not really important. Rio is in really good form, so sending him early (when maybe some others aren't at their best yet) is a really logical choice.

I wonder if Justine Miclette will go senior or might compete junior this year (turns 17 this week I think). I agree, makes sense to send the top 4 NextGen out, if nothing else to get experience. But Justine might benefit too.

 

[4everchan]

I wonder if Justine Miclette will go senior or might compete junior this year (turns 17 this week I think). I agree, makes sense to send the top 4 NextGen out, if nothing else to get experience. But Justine might benefit too.

Same could be said of Fiona Bombardier.

Kaiya is at SCI so that rules that option out.

 

[soccerjc77]

Honestly, I wonder why the judge lowballed Uliana Shiryaeva in the PCS (Components) ???

19.72 in the SP and 37.83 in the FS was really low. She deserved at least 22 in the SP and 44 in the FS.

I hope that this girl will be sent at the junior grand prix, she was the most consistent skater in this competition. No fall and strong jump including triple/triple.

3

Uliana Shiryaeva

Champs International Skating Centre of British Columbia

BC/YK

159.02

55.94

103.08

SP : https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8mpixu?start=4360

55.94 (Elements : 34.22, Components : 19.72)

FS : https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8mpzlx?start=6441

103.08 (Elements : 63.25, Components : 37.83)

Do you think that she will get a junior grand prix spot ???

 

[SubRosa]

Kent / Laliberté-Laurent and Kemp / Elizarov should be good for two entries each on the JGP, which leaves 8+ teams competing for 4 spots.

Give Proft / Nadeau an international, already! The John Nicks pairs event, maybe. They're ready!

 

[SnowWhite]

Interesting choices... The only "winner" assigned at the first event is Rio. Grayson finished 3rd but wasn't spectacular at all... Hetty finished 4th and VB, 5th and the Carandiucs even lower... though for the dance teams, both of these teams have been skating together for a while and are steady.

It will be interesting to see the long term strategy of Skate Canada - if there is any... sometimes it looks like they put skaters' name in a hat and picked .

Entries would have been submitted before the NextGen comp. And they seem fine to me. We have 11 spots for men, so both Rio and Grayson should definitely get at least one. Hetty was the JNats champ from last season, so her getting a spot makes sense, and there was a clear separation between the top 4 at the NextGen comp and the girls after them. I'm also assuming Justine and Fiona aren't going for JGP spots most likely, since they weren't at the comp and aren't subs (but if they are, it can go one each for them + Rose, Hetty, Uliana and Lulu).

Dance is the only one you could question, since the Carandiucs were 7th at the comp, plus Lewis/McMillan weren't there. But it still makes decent sense to me. None of the new teams were assigned, since they hadn't competed yet. Which left Veillon/Brandys (assigned), Sabatini-Speciale/Buelow (assigned to JGP 3 as announced by their club), Lewis/McMillan (WD from NextGen comp, may not be ready), and the teams moving up from novice. Given the results of the comp, I might do something like this: 2 spots each for the top 5 teams + Lewis/McMillan, then 1 for Fournier/Zhu and 1 for the Carandiucs. Maybe ideally you'd leave that last spot a bit later so you could see for the other summer comps shake out. But it's always good to have a young team start getting experience now. Veillon/Brandys and Sabatini-Speciale/Buelow have another season of junior eligibility after this one, but I'm pretty sure all of Lewis/McMillan, Nguyen/Giang, Martel/Oddson, Goodstadt/Bennett and Fournier/Zhu will age out after this year. So a good time to make sure you get at least one younger team out there. The Carandiucs are 15/16, so will have another 3 seasons in Jr after this one. And they scored the best of the up from novice teams at the comp, so I'm happy to see them get a spot.

 

[Jumping_Bean]

Kent / Laliberté-Laurent and Kemp / Elizarov should be good for two entries each on the JGP, which leaves 8+ teams competing for 4 spots.

The other four from Next Gen Camp, plus which other teams?
I'm so annoyed that pairs spots are not reallocated like singles or ice dance spots, there are already not enough junior pairs so there's no need to keep the fields small artificially. (Neither Japan nor Australia will likely be able to fill their spots, if they even send out any pairs)

Dance is the only one you could question, since the Carandiucs were 7th at the comp, plus Lewis/McMillan weren't there. But it still makes decent sense to me. None of the new teams were assigned, since they hadn't competed yet. Which left Veillon/Brandys (assigned), Sabatini-Speciale/Buelow (assigned to JGP 3 as announced by their club), Lewis/McMillan (WD from NextGen comp, may not be ready), and the teams moving up from novice. Given the results of the comp, I might do something like this: 2 spots each for the top 5 teams + Lewis/McMillan, then 1 for Fournier/Zhu and 1 for the Carandiucs. Maybe ideally you'd leave that last spot a bit later so you could see for the other summer comps shake out. But it's always good to have a young team start getting experience now. Veillon/Brandys and Sabatini-Speciale/Buelow have another season of junior eligibility after this one, but I'm pretty sure all of Lewis/McMillan, Nguyen/Giang, Martel/Oddson, Goodstadt/Bennett and Fournier/Zhu will age out after this year. So a good time to make sure you get at least one younger team out there. The Carandiucs are 15/16, so will have another 3 seasons in Jr after this one. And they scored the best of the up from novice teams at the comp, so I'm happy to see them get a spot.

At the Sectional event that happened at the same time, there were also Addison Pehl/Daniel Yu (130.42), Alisa Korneva/Kieran MacDonald (128.75), Nicole Bolender/Aiden Dotzert (121.54) and Sophia Gover/Billy Wilson French (119.2). Particularly the first two might be interesting for JGP spots, too.

 

[SubRosa]

The other four from Next Gen Camp, plus which other teams?

Callahan / Roch
Custodio / Hammer
Rolland / Lacasse
Quattrocchi / Demarais

Though all these teams are being monitored, so if any of them were under consideration, we likely would have seen them at NextGen. On the other hand, Callahan in particular impressed me at Novice Nationals, I'd be keeping an eye on her with her new partner.

I'm so annoyed that pairs spots are not reallocated like singles or ice dance spots, there are already not enough junior pairs so there's no need to keep the fields small artificially.

This, x 1000000!

 

[4everchan]

Entries would have been submitted before the NextGen comp. And they seem fine to me. We have 11 spots for men, so both Rio and Grayson should definitely get at least one. Hetty was the JNats champ from last season, so her getting a spot makes sense, and there was a clear separation between the top 4 at the NextGen comp and the girls after them. I'm also assuming Justine and Fiona aren't going for JGP spots most likely, since they weren't at the comp and aren't subs (but if they are, it can go one each for them + Rose, Hetty, Uliana and Lulu).

Dance is the only one you could question, since the Carandiucs were 7th at the comp, plus Lewis/McMillan weren't there. But it still makes decent sense to me. None of the new teams were assigned, since they hadn't competed yet. Which left Veillon/Brandys (assigned), Sabatini-Speciale/Buelow (assigned to JGP 3 as announced by their club), Lewis/McMillan (WD from NextGen comp, may not be ready), and the teams moving up from novice. Given the results of the comp, I might do something like this: 2 spots each for the top 5 teams + Lewis/McMillan, then 1 for Fournier/Zhu and 1 for the Carandiucs. Maybe ideally you'd leave that last spot a bit later so you could see for the other summer comps shake out. But it's always good to have a young team start getting experience now. Veillon/Brandys and Sabatini-Speciale/Buelow have another season of junior eligibility after this one, but I'm pretty sure all of Lewis/McMillan, Nguyen/Giang, Martel/Oddson, Goodstadt/Bennett and Fournier/Zhu will age out after this year. So a good time to make sure you get at least one younger team out there. The Carandiucs are 15/16, so will have another 3 seasons in Jr after this one. And they scored the best of the up from novice teams at the comp, so I'm happy to see them get a spot.

yeah... it's all good... i was just curious. I think hetty would benefit more time... and same with grayson... I think the choices for dance are fine... carandiuc are so young... i really liked them... i cannot wait to see them develop into great senior skaters ! No pressure intended but i see the potential.

 

[4everchan]

Kent / Laliberté-Laurent and Kemp / Elizarov should be good for two entries each on the JGP, which leaves 8+ teams competing for 4 spots.

Give Proft / Nadeau an international, already! The John Nicks pairs event, maybe. They're ready!

they will be at CQE... i am planning to go

Also... Skate Canada better take advantage of home ACI and assign many teams.. there are no restrictions for home challengers and they better take advantage of that by giving opportunities to as many skaters as possible, especially pairs, dance and women...

i guess i cannot hide my bitterness about the men : this is my favourite discipline.. and as a Canadian fan, we have been spoiled from Orser to Chan... even the non-medal winners like Sandhu, Nguyen, Reynolds or Messing were more exciting than what is happening now...

 

[RatedPG]

I remember last year they sent the top finishers from NextGen. However, they skipped Fiona due to no 2A 3T or triple triple combo. This year, we have Angelina Guan with no triple triple and I wonder what they will do with my fave Junior boy David Howes (who has a triple triple in the SP, but, no 2A 3T or triple triple combo in the free skate). I have a feeling he will be sent. I really like his skating. I just need him to learn combos and then the 3A, and I could see him as a future Canadian Jason Brown. He really stepped it up at this competition.

Also, Rose, Lulu, Uliana and Hetty are guaranteed JGP spots. I have a feeling Angelina will be skipped over

 

[RatedPG]

Justine and Fiona and Gabby, I think will be sent to Challenger events this year. I’d rather do that. They can also fight for one of the two Junior Worlds spots, later on this year. But, competing at Senior events, allows them to have higher SB’s.