Miki in two minds...and the JSF?

[sorcerer]

...So did you mean they might not want her to make a long blank after a surgery (if she took it)? ...

Yes, there are many grades of surgery, and the heaviest that was mentioned on papers was that Miki might need surgery TWICE in order to be able to do Biellman again.
That'll mean more than one season.
When benefit per risk is of close comparison, what the schedule JSF intends is may be a pressure to Miki.
I read that article as Miki being hurried to make decisions.

 

[Bennett]

Sounds like a lot to think about for her. Hope she gets better with whatever appropriate measures to take.

But it's still April. I suppose she would have some time to think about. Besides, they would always have a list of substitute skaters to replace when needed.
So it would not be that JSF cannot make the next year's plans until she makes a decision.
Don't worry too much Miki would be appreciative of having a fan like you who thinks of her so heartily.



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ETA:

Although this is not meant to be a personal criticism to sorcerer or any other posters, I personally have always had an impression that there has been a general trend on this board to describe:

JSF = the oppressive figure who prioritizes their own profits at the expense of the skaters' benefits or well-being

Skaters (esp. Mki, Oda, Yukari)= the innocent victims

I don't quite get why their actions and comments are so often negatively interpreted or even twisted on this board when so little first-hand information about it is available, especially to those who do not read Japanese. How much is talked about their organizational structure, missions, staff, budgets, and relations to other organizations to understand their behaviors and comments? Are skaters so much mistreated as some posters on this board seem to believe? To me, they often seem to be getting more blames than they may deserve and blamed for things that they may not even be culpable of. I personally don't really think of JSF as such a monstrous organization as is often said here, even though they may not be perferct.

 

[DragonPhoenix]

Sorcerer's intent here is simply for Miki to make the best possible decision concerning a major surgery so that she can be as healthy as possible .

I don't think there is any point to be argumentative about it.

My best wishes to Miki for whatever decision she makes.

 

[sorcerer]

Don't worry too much Miki would be appreciative of having a fan like you who thinks of her so heartily.

^ Bennett, I hope it's not too late to say thank you.

I thank DragonPhoenix too, for sharing my worries.

Since I put "JSF" in the title, I am in a position to say that Bennett's last ETA is worth a constructive discussion.
But it may be better to make a new thread since it will concern many skaters, not only Miki.
Would you post a new thread from your ETA when you have time, Bennett?
It may be interesting to have a wider talk about the hidden conflict between the feds, the managing companies (they too promote shows), the coaches, and the skaters themselves.

Like as for the control over the skaters, the ability of JSF in that area has had huge positive aspects; it must have contributed a lot in bringing Worlds & Olympic medals to Japan.
On the other hand, the same ability often reveals itself abruptly like in the case of previously unplanned "Japan Challenge" show which utilized the vacant day of SOI Japan tour this January. Such control IMO is too finacially oriented forcing extra energy to the skaters... (TBCd if the thread ups)

 

[Bennett]

Sorcerer's intent here is simply for Miki to make the best possible decision concerning a major surgery so that she can be as healthy as possible .

I don't think there is any point to be argumentative about it.

Yes, I understand that the negative stories about JSF, expressed largely by Miki, Oda, & Yukari fans, are certainly out of kind concerns about the skaters. But the levels of distrust expressed by them sometimes really surprise me. I feel that being so negative about JSF may not necessraily help address their concerns, but may contribute to creating more worries than necessary. I am certainly worried about Miki's health, too. I also want Oda to come back soon. I also want Yukari to get more respect from judges. But I just consider the life to be too short to be consumed by such negative speculations when so little empirical information is available to prove them. Then these stories somehow start to be talked about as "facts" perhaps because of the limited tangible info available, especially to those who don't have the access to the original sources in the Japanese language. That's a bit scary picture for me to see.

^ Bennett, I hope it's not too late to say thank you.

I thank DragonPhoenix too, for sharing my worries.

Since I put "JSF" in the title, I am in a position to say that Bennett's last ETA is worth a constructive discussion.
But it may be better to make a new thread since it will concern many skaters, not only Miki.
Would you post a new thread from your ETA when you have time, Bennett?
It may be interesting to have a wider talk about the hidden conflict between the feds, the managing companies (they too promote shows), the coaches, and the skaters themselves.

Like as for the control over the skaters, the ability of JSF in that area has had huge positive aspects; it must have contributed a lot in bringing Worlds & Olympic medals to Japan.
On the other hand, the same ability often reveals itself abruptly like in the case of previously unplanned "Japan Challenge" show which utilized the vacant day of SOI Japan tour this January. Such control IMO is too finacially oriented forcing extra energy to the skaters... (TBCd if the thread ups)

I think it a good idea to open a new thread. But as is shown in your post here, you seem to have so much more tangible knowledge about JSF than I do. So I think you would be a more appropriate person to do so.

 

[DragonPhoenix]

Although this is not meant to be a personal criticism to sorcerer or any other posters, I personally have always had an impression that there has been a general trend on this board to describe:

JSF = the oppressive figure who prioritizes their own profits at the expense of the skaters' benefits or well-being

Skaters (esp. Mki, Oda, Yukari)= the innocent victims

Yes, I understand that the negative stories about JSF, expressed largely by Miki, Oda, & Yukari fans, are certainly out of kind concerns about the skaters. But the levels of distrust expressed by them sometimes really surprise me. I feel that being so negative about JSF may not necessraily help address their concerns.

You are saying you don’t like negativity towards the JSF. But I definitely sense a certain amount of negativity from you towards Miki, Oda, and Yukari fans.

The impression your post gives is that fans of other skaters are never negative.

I am certainly a Miki fan, but I don’t feel anything negative towards the JSF.

 

[Bennett]

You are saying you don’t like negativity towards the JSF. But I definitely sense a certain amount of negativity from you towards Miki, Oda, and Yukari fans.

The impression your post gives is that fans of other skaters are never negative.

I am certainly a Miki fan, but I don’t feel anything negative towards the JSF.

Sorry if I gave you an impression as if I were generalizing "Miki, Oda, and Yukari fans" as negative.
But I was simply referring to the fact that discussions on JSF have often been done in the contexts of Oda, Yukari, and Miki (because of some of the difficult situations they have had) and out of some of their fans' kind concerns about these skaters. Perhaps I could have used different sentence structures or perhaps could have avoided mentioning specific names of the skaters and their fans if that led to such a misunderstanding.

As I said earlier, however, the posts that you cited were not intended to criticize any posters. The main point that I made in the posts that you cited is that although JSF and Mr. Ito might not be most diplomatically skillful in their comments and actions, I do not think them as bad as they are often said to be and that they might be misunderstood rather uni-dimensionally because of the limited information available esp. to non-Japanese speakers.
I was saying that so little information has been available about their organizational structure, staff, budgets, and their relations to the other organizations etc to better understand the background behind their comments and actions, which may have led to such misunderstandings.

Althoguh I myself do not have personal interests in JSF, I was suggesting to some of the fans who seem to have great concerns/worries about JSF, that getting to know such structures may be a more constructive way to address their concerns/worries about skaters than trying to read between lines in each of the comments made by JSF representatives that could be shortened or even edited/twisted by the media in the first place.

I hope it's now clear enough.

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BTW, regarding sorcerer's concerns about Mr. Ito's describing Miki's leg injury at Worlds as "light", I feel that he might have been just repeating a diagnosis that doctors made. e.g., You could be diagnosed to have a "light" stroke that is severe enough to prevent you from walking. In any case, I don't believe that he had any negative intention or hidden agendas when he said so. I sincerely hope that sorcerer doesn't worry too much about his words. He might not be diplomatically skillful in his comments; but I could imagine that dealing all the media on top of all the other responsibilites would be really a lot of work. They don't seem to have PR representatives that top cooperations usually have, do they?

 

[DragonPhoenix]

Althoguh I myself do not have personal interests in JSF

You certainly seem rather passionate about a topic that according to you, you don't have a personal interest in.

I guess you are concerned about the image that people may or may not have of the JSF.
And that's fine. Everyone has different concerns and interests.

 

[sorcerer]

Anyway, I am opening a new thread. Thank you everyone.

I agree with Bennett that it's important to better understand the background behind comments and actions.

I believe that each has good intentions.
At the same time I think it's essential to make such good intentions understood.
Maybe it's a matter of attitude.
(I must make mine better.)

 

[sorcerer]

As for now

What's written on the FSU board is practically true, but to be accurate, Miki has not stated that she "gave up" surgery.

About 61 hours ago, Miki wrote about her surgery on the site where her fans gather, and I've been waiting for official annoucements to come out.
The latter is yet to come, but since several bloggers have already mentioned about her words, her comments are already becoming something of public knowledge among fans in Japan.
So I'm permitting myself to write the essences of her comments here.
Her words seem healthy and positive.
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As for the surgery, after further consultation with her doctor, it turned out not only that if she has the surgery she'll be unable to skate for more than half a year, but also that the state of her shoulder can't be expected to fully recover even through surgery; so AS FOR NOW she is doing rehabilitation every day in a hospital as an outpatient, looking mainly in the direction of supporting her shoulder with her muscles.

She says the injury of her left calf is getting well already.

She has some worries left (about her shoulder?) but she's spending well-filled days attending university, going to the hospital, helping her family work.

She says thank you for the many who gave her warm words after the Worlds, and that from them she does get encouragement. (BTW the posters' warmness here on GS had been passed on, too.)
She apologizes (for not living up to the expectations in Gothborg) and asks her fans' support again this season.

 

[childfreegirl]

I'm glad to hear that she's staying positive and already starting to recover. I hope the rehab on the shoulder works or at least decreases the pain. I hope she gets all the support she needs. I think she is a beautiful hard working individual.

 

[DragonPhoenix]

Thank you very much for the news update, sorcerer.

Glad to hear that she sounds good and positive.

All the best to Miki for great health and a great new season