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weren't the ROC appeals going to be heard prior to the COC's ?
Kamila Valieva: Anti-doping Case and Follow-ups
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They were being heard during Congress. I'm wondering if the date being confirmed means that the decision for them went in favour of the ISU. If they won it, then there would be no need to hear the Canadian appeal.
ROC is appealing for gold, so they can "lose" the appeal and still be awarded bronze as was the original decision after Valieva's ban, Canada is appealing that points should have been redistributed that would have them in bronze and ROC in fourth.
So I don't think the Canadian case continuing is indicative of ROC winning or losing.
Russia's appeal for gold was heard June 12th. If Russia won the appeal for gold, then Canada stays fourth and the Canadian appeal is no longer valid. No need for CAS to schedule it if Canada isn't eligible for bronze after the Russian appeal was heard.
That's my speculation.
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This article from the French CBC, informs us that the 3 appeals from ROC have been heard (we knew that) but apparently the verdicts are not yet known.
La Russie conteste aussi la redistribution des points et a déposé trois appels devant le TAS pour conserver l’or. Ces dossiers ont été entendus le 12 juin dernier, mais les verdicts n’ont pas été rendus.
Russia contests the reallocation of the points and has submitted three appeals to CAS to keep gold. These files were heard on June 12th but the verdicts have not been given.
(my translation)
ici.radio-canada.ca
La Russie conteste aussi la redistribution des points et a déposé trois appels devant le TAS pour conserver l’or. Ces dossiers ont été entendus le 12 juin dernier, mais les verdicts n’ont pas été rendus.
Russia contests the reallocation of the points and has submitted three appeals to CAS to keep gold. These files were heard on June 12th but the verdicts have not been given.
(my translation)
Jeux de Pékin : Le Canada saura s’il est médaillé bientôt
Dans l'histoire de dopage de Kamila Valieva, le Canada estime avoir gagné le bronze à l'épreuve par équipe en patinage artistique.
ici.radio-canada.ca
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There is one last hearing on the 22nd, which is Canada's case vs. the ISU. If I had to guess, we'll get the full verdict of the all appeals, plus an announcement of medal ceremony location (if Japanese media is accurate, at least Team Japan will receive medals in Paris) a few days after the 22nd.
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It is in the article i linked
Was a reason ever given for why Valieva as a 15 year old at the time of the positive test and still a child when the ultimate verdict was delivered, why everything about this case was revealed to the public, even details such as the energy jellies and medicated plasters she used over a two year span (which didn't stop the media declaring that these jellies and plasters she had been given were drugs that she had been plied with
). We're seeing now with cases in Italy and China how everyone keeps their cards close to their chest, revealing almost no information despite involving adults.
I could never find out why these young girl's case was splashed everywhere and had almost no privacy (what kind of lifetime harm must have this caused her). Was there ever a justification given? I'm curious.
). We're seeing now with cases in Italy and China how everyone keeps their cards close to their chest, revealing almost no information despite involving adults.I could never find out why these young girl's case was splashed everywhere and had almost no privacy (what kind of lifetime harm must have this caused her). Was there ever a justification given? I'm curious.
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When something happens right at the Olympics, you bet it will be revealed. Is that right ? No. But that would be my guess. Also, let's not forget that Valieva was supposed to be the star of these games, with women's figure skating event being one of the marquis events (with the men's/women's downhill)
Look at how cruel the media was in Seoul 1988 towards Ben Johnson.... marquis event, at the Olympics... and we know now that pretty much everyone but one guy in this final was doped.
Look at how cruel the media was in Seoul 1988 towards Ben Johnson.... marquis event, at the Olympics... and we know now that pretty much everyone but one guy in this final was doped.
The positive test was from two months before the Olympics. The process for informing the athlete and her right to confidentiality does not change.
I don't see the relevance. Famous athletes should expect to have their rights and privacy trampled over? There should have been an investigation into the source of the leaks to avoid this happening ever again.
Ben Johnson tested positive in a test taken at the Olympics, so automatic disqualification.. As well he was an adult and had no right to confidentiality.
It was initially reported as a protected athlete, but it was very clear to identify since she was the only one it could possibly be.Was a reason ever given for why Valieva as a 15 year old at the time of the positive test and still a child when the ultimate verdict was delivered, why everything about this case was revealed to the public, even details such as the energy jellies and medicated plasters she used over a two year span (which didn't stop the media declaring that these jellies and plasters she had been given were drugs that she had been plied with
I could never find out why these young girl's case was splashed everywhere and had almost no privacy (what kind of lifetime harm must have this caused her). Was there ever a justification given? I'm curious.
Russian appeal dismissed - https://www.tas-cas.org/fileadmin/user_upload/CAS_Media_Release_ISU_Op_Part__10355_10356_10360_.pdf
The release also says that it cannot give a time for when the decision on the Canadian appeal will be issued.
The release also says that it cannot give a time for when the decision on the Canadian appeal will be issued.
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ISU statement - https://www.isu.org/isu-news/news/1...am-event-russian-roc-appeals?templateParam=15
They're going to coordinate with the IOC with awarding the medals (gold and silver presumably.) No confirmation of the August 7th ceremony in it.
They're going to coordinate with the IOC with awarding the medals (gold and silver presumably.) No confirmation of the August 7th ceremony in it.
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this, to me, indicates that the ISU doesn't want to have the third place team on the podium... no matter if it's ROC or Canada. If it's ROC, many will be frustrated, even ROC athletes themselves... if it's Canada, the ISU will lose face as they clearly made a huge mistake here.
So they will award Gold and Silver, and whatever happens to the Bronze, the medals will be given in a dark alley
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They had all this time and still not done with Canada. A whole relay team gets disqualified cause of one person doping. Same should be with this.
I'm honestly surprised that they got the decision in time for a gold and silver ceremony in Paris. There's still the arbitral decision to be released.
CAS has to write their decision out fully and show that they considered it diligently. It is about the application of the ISU rules, and those have to be followed. It'd be nice if it could go faster, but I'll take them being diligent in this matter.
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i'm happy USA and Japan will get their (rightful) gold and silver medals in time for Paris, but i'm so sad for Canada who should be experiencing this long awaited moment with them. i doubt they'd hold another separate ceremony just for the bronze when it's settled. it's insane to think how many Olympic moments and opportunities were taken at the expense of innocent, clean athletes who worked their whole lives for this. heartbreaking really.
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