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I love Rhythmic gymnastics since more than 20 years. well this OG things will be hard because one of the best is the Bulgarian Stiliana Nikolova but wait because other that is great technically talking is her team mate Boriana Kaleyn also The Italian Sofia Raffaeli have a great technique and choreographically is very Italian and distinctive style also Israel's Daria Atamanov is one that can bring surprise on the individual routine too. and the German and Slovenian team ...
Ukraine changed of gymnast that will compete because originally Viktoria Onopriienko said something on social networks the Ukrainian gymnastics federation changed its mind and chosen to Tassia Onofriichuk the gymnast will represent on individual rhythmic gymnastics to Ukraine .
here the entries
https://olympics.com/en/paris-2024/entries/rhythmic-gymnastics/all-noc/individual-all-around
and the groups competition entries (appears detailed all the gymnast names of all the teams that will compete)
https://olympics.com/en/paris-2024/entries/rhythmic-gymnastics/all-noc/group-all-around
Ukraine changed of gymnast that will compete because originally Viktoria Onopriienko said something on social networks the Ukrainian gymnastics federation changed its mind and chosen to Tassia Onofriichuk the gymnast will represent on individual rhythmic gymnastics to Ukraine .
here the entries
https://olympics.com/en/paris-2024/entries/rhythmic-gymnastics/all-noc/individual-all-around
and the groups competition entries (appears detailed all the gymnast names of all the teams that will compete)
https://olympics.com/en/paris-2024/entries/rhythmic-gymnastics/all-noc/group-all-around
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Canada's Patricia Bezzoubenko is my all-time favorite and my fangirl, she was huge 
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For me I been watching constantly over 10 yeats
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Canada’s Patricia Bezzoubenko wins Pan Am bronze in rhythmic gymnastics
Bezzoubenko won five gold medals at last year’s Commonwealth Games in Glasgow
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Also was great Mary Sanders , was one of my favorites .Canada's Patricia Bezzoubenko is my all-time favorite and my fangirl, she was huge
For me I been watching constantly over 10 yeats
Canada’s Patricia Bezzoubenko wins Pan Am bronze in rhythmic gymnastics
Bezzoubenko won five gold medals at last year’s Commonwealth Games in Glasgow
Last year went to watch Pan-American games and I thought that Canada would get a place for this Olympics games but in spite of Tatiana Cocsanova and Carmel Kallemaa did it great but wasn't enough also the Canadian group was nice in both routines. I don't understand really what happens with Canada nowadays.
The clear on that time Brazil won but personally they are very technical but haven't soul their routines, is like they forgot expression . Like the Russian as cold as a piece of steel. Even Carmel Kallemaa or Tatiana Cocsanova routine's have more balance between technical and expressivity
In that time Mexican group routines was amazing and very exciting see them very happy because got the place for this Olympics later when end the competition they was posing for a photo with the fans and was contagious their happiness.
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Maybe now it is controlled by eastern countries ,
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Lori Fung Methorst - Team Canada
Canada’s Lori Fung was the first ever rhythmic gymnastics Olympic gold medalist winning the title at the 1984 Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
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Eastern countries have been dominating RG basically since it has become an organised sport - If anything, there's slightly more diversity now.Maybe now it is controlled by eastern countries ,
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Lori Fung Methorst - Team Canada
Canada’s Lori Fung was the first ever rhythmic gymnastics Olympic gold medalist winning the title at the 1984 Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
As lovely as Lori is and certainly nobody could ever take this historic achievement from her, part of the truth is also that many Eastern countries boycotted the 1984 Olympics.
At Worlds in 1985, Lori placed 9th, which is still to this day the highest Canadian placement at Rhythmic Gymnastics Worlds. It's sad the sport never took off in Canada, despite Lori's Olympic Gold.
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yeah... go Canada... ermm wait 
it's okay... as much as I love artistic gymnastics, figure skating, diving, a lot of aesthetically pleasing disciplines with creative input (choreography, music etc) I never got intrigued enough in rhythmic gymnastics... no idea why... but maybe it's a Canadian thing : loving figure skating and diving and not so much rhythmic gymnastics... as stated, it's too bad the sport didn't take off after Fung's fabulous gold medal.. of course, the games were boycotted but still, nowadays, Canada cannot even qualify a single athlete so boycott or not... it's a huge achievement.
i may try to watch as I haven't done so in years and maybe the sport evolved to a place where it makes it more interesting for my complicated brain
it's okay... as much as I love artistic gymnastics, figure skating, diving, a lot of aesthetically pleasing disciplines with creative input (choreography, music etc) I never got intrigued enough in rhythmic gymnastics... no idea why... but maybe it's a Canadian thing : loving figure skating and diving and not so much rhythmic gymnastics... as stated, it's too bad the sport didn't take off after Fung's fabulous gold medal.. of course, the games were boycotted but still, nowadays, Canada cannot even qualify a single athlete so boycott or not... it's a huge achievement.
i may try to watch as I haven't done so in years and maybe the sport evolved to a place where it makes it more interesting for my complicated brain
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For your sake (and my sanity), I am praying for a less chaotic event this time around - Love my girls, but I cannot deal with the inconsistency of this whole fieldi may try to watch as I haven't done so in years and maybe the sport evolved to a place where it makes it more interesting for my complicated brain
As with figure skating, some gymnasts are much more expressive than others, and some choreography more cohesive. And unfortunately, some wonderful gymnasts didn't make it.I definitely prefer the current RG to the one from the early 2000s - Especially because these elements don't exist in the CoP/aren't commonly used anymore
All of those poor backs and knees with the double rings, ring+back bend, knee balances and jumps landing on knees
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Will try to catch as much of rhythmics as possible on CBC. That was my daughter's sport. I gave it a try, but don't have good hand-eye coordination so was pretty hopeless at anything but the ribbon, which I could hold onto most of the time at my beginner level.
My daughter trained with Lori as another of Mall Vesik's pupils. Lori was an anomaly at that time, being innately gifted at the gymnastics part (thanks to her Japanese mother, a former gymnast and figure skater herself) and with uncanny hand-eye coordination. What I remember most about her Olympics win was there being so little interest in such an obscure sport there were no Canadian news photographers or cameras recording the event. When she unexpectedly won the gold, CBC had to scramble around to borrow another country's film of it to show.Maybe now it is controlled by eastern countries ,
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Lori Fung Methorst - Team Canada
Canada’s Lori Fung was the first ever rhythmic gymnastics Olympic gold medalist winning the title at the 1984 Olympic Games in Los Angeles.
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First time seeing it
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Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.
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First time seeing it
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I had no idea this might be on Youtube and have never tried to look for any of her performances! I'm going to let my daughter know and she'll love to see Lori in action as well! 
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Lori was great, take a look of their routines ,you won't regret it really. the great is that Lori continued as coach even was Canadian national team coach. i remember that in 2006 a friend mine that was gymnast and the national champion during 6 years in a row went to Vancouver to train with Lori (currently is coach on a rg club in British Columbia ) and something of curiosity she also was flexibility coach in Killarney skating club (Vancouver, BC)
also another great Canadian gymnast was Alexandra Orlando ..
Some videos of her routines from 2008 Olympics Games Beijing .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=99ztqIJZCEc Ribbon routine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owz75kiQBwA Clubs routine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7zgasFit4o Hoop routine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsvR9k9FZmY Rope routine (the last olympics cycle that rope was as apparatus for Senior category )
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thank you for sharing....
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Would people here be interested in a little rundown of how scoring works and the top medal contenders (or notable gymnasts/routines) before qualifications start on Thursday?
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Definitely. I'm a first time watcher so I know basically nothing
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If it's not too time-consuming for you, it would be appreciated
. I know the equipment and how it's used, but it's a long time since my daughter competed and I'm sure the scoring has changed. And I don't know who the top gymnasts are these days or from what countries.
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So I'm very much sure that @Jumping_Bean will do a much better job than myself and that's why I'm eagerly waiting for her post, but I consumed too much caffeine (cause: Olympics) and I need something to do before I can fall asleep. So here is a lesser-quality rundown of the scoring and notable gymnasts/groups:
*Pinch of salt warning: I have my favorites and it may show, also while I have been watching RG since 2012 I have yet to develop an eye for actual judging so 'strong routines' are mostly based on previous scores
Basic structure
RG has two disciplines, individual (one gymnast on the carpet) and group (5 gymnasts on the carpet). Individuals do four routines with different apparatuses, by order hoop, ball, clubs (1 pair), and ribbon, which are 90 seconds each. Groups do two routines, one being the single apparatus routine (this cycle it's 5 hoops) and the other being the mixed apparatus routine (this cycle it's 3 ribbons + 2 balls). Group routines are 150 seconds each. There isn't an EF in RG during the Olympics (which is a very sore spot among RG fans including myself) so only AA medals are awarded, 10 individual gymnasts and 8 groups qualify to the final after qualifications.
How RG scoring works
There are three components, Difficulty (D), Execution (E), and Artistry (A).
Difficulty is determined by what elements the gymnast(s) perform on the carpet, there hasn't been a D cap since 2017 so it's up to the gymnast(s) and the team to decide how much difficulty is going to be included. Pretty much like AG in that regard. But unlike AG there are two kinds of D: DB (body difficulty) and DA (apparatus difficulty). It's way, waaaay more complicated and there are so much criteria when actually deciding what element a gymnast/group is supposed to have done (base combinations and so on, I honestly can't decipher them live and only know by memory and vibes when an element is not valid/reduced/etc. when watching individuals), but roughly DB is work done with the body like pivots, balances, and leaps and DA is work done with the apparatus like throws, rolls on the body, and handling. D for groups are a bit more complex since there are multiple gymnasts and apparatuses, to oversimplify it the gymnasts do collaborative work with the apparatuses and their bodies as well as doing individual work. For instance, throwing the apparatus to one another, jumping over another gymnast, and going under an apparatus another gymnast is holding would be collaborative work while doing balances, pivots, and apparatus handling would be individual work. (It's complicated and I'm sure that @Jumping_Bean will properly explain it.)
Execution is determined by reducing points for errors, 10 is the max E score and it drops with every mistake/wrong move/insufficiency on an element. There are obvious errors that are clearly visible even to the casual 4-year viewer like dropping the apparatus or losing balance (which hurts your E score a lot) and not-so-obvious errors like not holding a balance long enough, insufficient amplitude, or incorrect handling of the apparatus, sometimes a routine with an obvious error can score better E than a seemingly fine routine filled with these inconspicuous errors and cause an uproar (Linoy Ashram vs. Dina Averina being one of the most well-known cases).
Artistry is kinda new but not really new, it was brought back for this cycle (2021-2024) after being dropped in 2013 because a lot of 2021-2024 CoP routines, how to put it, got scores conflicting to their artistic reception. Like E scores 10 is the maximum and things that aren't done right by the code are deducted. This is obviously the most difficult and subjective area to judge, but there are guidelines. For instance, you have to emphasize beats and accents of the music, you have to portray character in your routine (as in show a performance that matches the style of the music), and you have to connect everything smoothly. While A scores are supposed to be separate from E scores, in reality a lot of times A is more or less similar to the E score because mistakes in performing the elements disrupt the performance and flow, among other reasons. There are a lot of cases of a routine getting a good A score but not being considered really 'artistic' by the fans, and it'll be why the A guidelines will have to be refined and/or better explained as time goes by.
Notable gymnasts/groups
24 individuals and 14 groups have qualified to the Olympics, and while basically all individuals/groups are special in their own way I'm going to only mention the ones who will definitely qualify for the finals here (but I may add a few as I write this thing). Order is based on the starting orders for qualifications.
Individuals
- Takhmina Ikromova (Uzbekistan) : One of the best Uzbek gymnasts I have ever seen since I began watching. Has high D overall in her routines and is mostly consistent (minus Asian Championships, but we'll see). Artistry is subjective but is a good performer to my eyes. Strong routines are usually hoop and ball, but this year I personally prefer her clubs and ribbon.
- Boryana Kaleyn (Bulgaria) : Darling of RG fans' hearts for quite some time now, 5th in Tokyo and 2023 Europeans AA champion. D scores have kinda fluctuated across competitions and she is not consistent (sigh), but she is considered to be one of the queens of artistry and performance by the fans. Strong routines are for the most part hoop and clubs, but to be honest you never know with Buba.
- Stiliana Nikolova (Bulgaria) : Tiny Queen, 141 cm tall and one of the top contenders. 2024 Europeans AA champion. Strong D overall and while not fully consistent tends to get good E when she's clean. Considered to be a great performer as well and gets good A when she hits. Strongest routine is her ball but honestly when hit all four routines are strong.
- Sofia Raffaeli (Italy) : Also one of the top contenders, 2022 Worlds AA champion. Strong D and E usually, and for the most part A as well. Lost a bit of consistency this year (understandably so, she had to abruptly change coaches because fed drama) but loved by many for good reason. Strong routines would be hoop and ball.
- Darja Varfolomeev (Germany) : Another top contender, 2023 AA+EF champion (she won all 5 golds). Strong D and usually E and A as well. Was one of the most consistent gymnasts in 2023 but not quite that consistent this year, especially with ribbon. To many fans she isn't the most artistic gymnast, but there certainly are people who love her style. Strong routines would be ball and clubs.
- Daria Atamanov (Israel) : Slightly iffy top contender, 2022 Europeans AA champion. Slightly less than say Nikolova/Raffaeli/Varfolomeev but still strong D, E can vary. A isn't bad IIRC. She causes conflicting opinions for a lot of gymnastics and non-gymnastics reasons, personally not really my cuppa but definitely has fans (and non-fans). Strong routines would be hoop and clubs.
+ Gymnasts that are likely but not fixed for the final: Elzhana Taniyeva (Kazakhstan), Taisiia Onofriichuk (Ukraine), Alba Bautista (Spain), Margarita Kolosov (Germany), Milena Baldassarri (Italy), Wang Zilu (China) (Warning: I may be spectacularly wrong about this because half of this list lacks consistency)
Groups
*Groups are even more chaotic than individuals because when a disaster strikes it can strike HARD, I'm writing based on personal perception + other fans' opinions + results from this season.
- China : Strong D, E, and A for what I can remember, took part in less competitions than the others so a bit harder to judge. Loved by many fans and one of the fan favorites for podium. Basically all groups have stronger 5 hoops than 3+2 because ribbon is chaotic and there are three ribbons in this cycle's 3+2, but personally I like their 3+2 much better.
- Bulgaria : Consistency is not their forte but can be spectacular, with current members 2024 Europeans AA champions. Bit less D than others and E and A swings wildly due to aforementioned lack of consistency, but at Europeans they got 39+ for their 5 hoops (which is A LOT). I like both of their routines this year but their 5 hoops are pristine when hit, sadly they removed a lot of lovely choreo because they are adding more D but I wouldn't mind if they continue the legacy of Bulgarian group's winning gold medals.
- Brazil: I think they were consistent for a large part of the season? Not as strong D compared to others but E and A has been pretty good for what I can remember, if there is enough chaos could end up on the podium. 5 hoops is Whitney Houston and 3+2 songs about Brazil, I personally prefer their 5 hoops.
- Spain : I wouldn't consider them to be consistent but very strong D, E and A aren't much lacking either when hit. Won the Europeans 3+2 EF title this year. I think they are well liked but there are a lot of Spanish fans in RG, personally I find them okay but not claiming my heart. It's a bit stronger this season because I don't like Imagine and their 3+2 is Imagine.
- Italy : Tokyo bronze medalists (the same team stayed), were considered to be a lock for the podium before a lot of drama happened and they lost a lot of support and consistency. D is slightly weaker than some of the other podium contenders, used to get good E and A but not so much this season. I do not enjoy their routines this year not taking the drama into account, which is a pity because they had such good routines during 2022-2023 (the same two routines, btw).
Israel : 2022 Europeans AA champions, can't remember if there were any changes in gymnasts though. Strong D and if limited to 5 hoops very consistent E and A. Routines are... well... let's just say that I haven't enjoyed Ayelet Zussman's works that much this cycle. 3+2 music cuts are... something, there are too many Moulin Rouge routines this season (because Olympics Are In France) and this one takes the cake for, um, interesting cuts.
So this is way too long but I hope that this helps somewhat, again @Jumping_Bean will do a better job than what I wrote here.
*Pinch of salt warning: I have my favorites and it may show, also while I have been watching RG since 2012 I have yet to develop an eye for actual judging so 'strong routines' are mostly based on previous scores
Basic structure
RG has two disciplines, individual (one gymnast on the carpet) and group (5 gymnasts on the carpet). Individuals do four routines with different apparatuses, by order hoop, ball, clubs (1 pair), and ribbon, which are 90 seconds each. Groups do two routines, one being the single apparatus routine (this cycle it's 5 hoops) and the other being the mixed apparatus routine (this cycle it's 3 ribbons + 2 balls). Group routines are 150 seconds each. There isn't an EF in RG during the Olympics (which is a very sore spot among RG fans including myself) so only AA medals are awarded, 10 individual gymnasts and 8 groups qualify to the final after qualifications.
How RG scoring works
There are three components, Difficulty (D), Execution (E), and Artistry (A).
Difficulty is determined by what elements the gymnast(s) perform on the carpet, there hasn't been a D cap since 2017 so it's up to the gymnast(s) and the team to decide how much difficulty is going to be included. Pretty much like AG in that regard. But unlike AG there are two kinds of D: DB (body difficulty) and DA (apparatus difficulty). It's way, waaaay more complicated and there are so much criteria when actually deciding what element a gymnast/group is supposed to have done (base combinations and so on, I honestly can't decipher them live and only know by memory and vibes when an element is not valid/reduced/etc. when watching individuals), but roughly DB is work done with the body like pivots, balances, and leaps and DA is work done with the apparatus like throws, rolls on the body, and handling. D for groups are a bit more complex since there are multiple gymnasts and apparatuses, to oversimplify it the gymnasts do collaborative work with the apparatuses and their bodies as well as doing individual work. For instance, throwing the apparatus to one another, jumping over another gymnast, and going under an apparatus another gymnast is holding would be collaborative work while doing balances, pivots, and apparatus handling would be individual work. (It's complicated and I'm sure that @Jumping_Bean will properly explain it.)
Execution is determined by reducing points for errors, 10 is the max E score and it drops with every mistake/wrong move/insufficiency on an element. There are obvious errors that are clearly visible even to the casual 4-year viewer like dropping the apparatus or losing balance (which hurts your E score a lot) and not-so-obvious errors like not holding a balance long enough, insufficient amplitude, or incorrect handling of the apparatus, sometimes a routine with an obvious error can score better E than a seemingly fine routine filled with these inconspicuous errors and cause an uproar (Linoy Ashram vs. Dina Averina being one of the most well-known cases).
Artistry is kinda new but not really new, it was brought back for this cycle (2021-2024) after being dropped in 2013 because a lot of 2021-2024 CoP routines, how to put it, got scores conflicting to their artistic reception. Like E scores 10 is the maximum and things that aren't done right by the code are deducted. This is obviously the most difficult and subjective area to judge, but there are guidelines. For instance, you have to emphasize beats and accents of the music, you have to portray character in your routine (as in show a performance that matches the style of the music), and you have to connect everything smoothly. While A scores are supposed to be separate from E scores, in reality a lot of times A is more or less similar to the E score because mistakes in performing the elements disrupt the performance and flow, among other reasons. There are a lot of cases of a routine getting a good A score but not being considered really 'artistic' by the fans, and it'll be why the A guidelines will have to be refined and/or better explained as time goes by.
Notable gymnasts/groups
24 individuals and 14 groups have qualified to the Olympics, and while basically all individuals/groups are special in their own way I'm going to only mention the ones who will definitely qualify for the finals here (but I may add a few as I write this thing). Order is based on the starting orders for qualifications.
Individuals
- Takhmina Ikromova (Uzbekistan) : One of the best Uzbek gymnasts I have ever seen since I began watching. Has high D overall in her routines and is mostly consistent (minus Asian Championships, but we'll see). Artistry is subjective but is a good performer to my eyes. Strong routines are usually hoop and ball, but this year I personally prefer her clubs and ribbon.
- Boryana Kaleyn (Bulgaria) : Darling of RG fans' hearts for quite some time now, 5th in Tokyo and 2023 Europeans AA champion. D scores have kinda fluctuated across competitions and she is not consistent (sigh), but she is considered to be one of the queens of artistry and performance by the fans. Strong routines are for the most part hoop and clubs, but to be honest you never know with Buba.
- Stiliana Nikolova (Bulgaria) : Tiny Queen, 141 cm tall and one of the top contenders. 2024 Europeans AA champion. Strong D overall and while not fully consistent tends to get good E when she's clean. Considered to be a great performer as well and gets good A when she hits. Strongest routine is her ball but honestly when hit all four routines are strong.
- Sofia Raffaeli (Italy) : Also one of the top contenders, 2022 Worlds AA champion. Strong D and E usually, and for the most part A as well. Lost a bit of consistency this year (understandably so, she had to abruptly change coaches because fed drama) but loved by many for good reason. Strong routines would be hoop and ball.
- Darja Varfolomeev (Germany) : Another top contender, 2023 AA+EF champion (she won all 5 golds). Strong D and usually E and A as well. Was one of the most consistent gymnasts in 2023 but not quite that consistent this year, especially with ribbon. To many fans she isn't the most artistic gymnast, but there certainly are people who love her style. Strong routines would be ball and clubs.
- Daria Atamanov (Israel) : Slightly iffy top contender, 2022 Europeans AA champion. Slightly less than say Nikolova/Raffaeli/Varfolomeev but still strong D, E can vary. A isn't bad IIRC. She causes conflicting opinions for a lot of gymnastics and non-gymnastics reasons, personally not really my cuppa but definitely has fans (and non-fans). Strong routines would be hoop and clubs.
+ Gymnasts that are likely but not fixed for the final: Elzhana Taniyeva (Kazakhstan), Taisiia Onofriichuk (Ukraine), Alba Bautista (Spain), Margarita Kolosov (Germany), Milena Baldassarri (Italy), Wang Zilu (China) (Warning: I may be spectacularly wrong about this because half of this list lacks consistency)
Groups
*Groups are even more chaotic than individuals because when a disaster strikes it can strike HARD, I'm writing based on personal perception + other fans' opinions + results from this season.
- China : Strong D, E, and A for what I can remember, took part in less competitions than the others so a bit harder to judge. Loved by many fans and one of the fan favorites for podium. Basically all groups have stronger 5 hoops than 3+2 because ribbon is chaotic and there are three ribbons in this cycle's 3+2, but personally I like their 3+2 much better.
- Bulgaria : Consistency is not their forte but can be spectacular, with current members 2024 Europeans AA champions. Bit less D than others and E and A swings wildly due to aforementioned lack of consistency, but at Europeans they got 39+ for their 5 hoops (which is A LOT). I like both of their routines this year but their 5 hoops are pristine when hit, sadly they removed a lot of lovely choreo because they are adding more D but I wouldn't mind if they continue the legacy of Bulgarian group's winning gold medals.
- Brazil: I think they were consistent for a large part of the season? Not as strong D compared to others but E and A has been pretty good for what I can remember, if there is enough chaos could end up on the podium. 5 hoops is Whitney Houston and 3+2 songs about Brazil, I personally prefer their 5 hoops.
- Spain : I wouldn't consider them to be consistent but very strong D, E and A aren't much lacking either when hit. Won the Europeans 3+2 EF title this year. I think they are well liked but there are a lot of Spanish fans in RG, personally I find them okay but not claiming my heart. It's a bit stronger this season because I don't like Imagine and their 3+2 is Imagine.
- Italy : Tokyo bronze medalists (the same team stayed), were considered to be a lock for the podium before a lot of drama happened and they lost a lot of support and consistency. D is slightly weaker than some of the other podium contenders, used to get good E and A but not so much this season. I do not enjoy their routines this year not taking the drama into account, which is a pity because they had such good routines during 2022-2023 (the same two routines, btw).
Israel : 2022 Europeans AA champions, can't remember if there were any changes in gymnasts though. Strong D and if limited to 5 hoops very consistent E and A. Routines are... well... let's just say that I haven't enjoyed Ayelet Zussman's works that much this cycle. 3+2 music cuts are... something, there are too many Moulin Rouge routines this season (because Olympics Are In France) and this one takes the cake for, um, interesting cuts.
So this is way too long but I hope that this helps somewhat, again @Jumping_Bean will do a better job than what I wrote here.
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Sounded fine to me. So not too many changes in the rules since I was involved in it as a Volunteer Mama in the 1990s. They don't use the (skipping) rope anymore. Reasons for deductions are about the same. At least in a venue like the Olympics the audience is far enough away not to need the announcement that was always made before each round, in the days when competitions were held in high school gyms and the audience was right up against the floor: "If a competitor's apparatus ends up in the audience [usually the ball, between someone's feet or under a bench], please do not pick it up and give it back to the competitor! This will result in disqualification." 
The top gymnasts were the Bulgarians and the Spanish. Hasn't much changed, then.
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@Ichatdelune already did a very good job at giving a bit of an intro and overview that is certainly enough for the casual viewer, but I'll still do a few posts for those who want to get into the sport more deeply (unless people would rather I don't?) - Now or after the games 
So please just bear with me while I try putting my thoughts into halfway-legible sentences
So please just bear with me while I try putting my thoughts into halfway-legible sentences
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