I think Rohene Ward is living through Jason. He suggests music he would like to skate if he was still an active skater and not necessarily music that would suit Jason. I don't like the music at all. I think the free skate music is awful for a skating program, the short at least is a bit enjoyable imo. Jason is not getting the height on the axel anymore, he underrotated his three last axels in competition and it's clear he's stressed and self-conscious about it (he popped it in warm-up); leaving one axel out in the free in Shanghai was a big red flag for me. Maybe there's an injury somewhere. But it is what it is. Only time will tell.
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I'm not sure that Ro is living through Jason. Jason does make the decisions on music with Ro. Tarzan doesn't feel like Ro either, to be honest. I think Jason chose the music and became loyal to it. And it's just not working. I do agree that Jason is not getting the height in his 3As, but the why of that is unknown. He landed some nice ones in practice. but he also didn't land some in practice. It's inconsistent and becoming more consistent in the wrong direction. He's putting a lot of pressure on himself to try to make that Olympic team. That could be the root of the problem. It's a lot of pressure and it's a tough task. Jason at his best can score really well. That's when he's enjoying the process and not worrying to much about the outcome, but trying to just skate his very best. I think the reason he was skating so well after Beijing is that the pressure was off. It's enough pressure to just try to get through the season and that ought to be enough for this year. And honestly, Jason has already achieved more than most skaters. I feel that he has nothing to prove. Doing this because he loves it is enough! That was enough for the last 3 years and he seemed very happy and was very successful. I don't think anything has changed in the past few months except for the pressure that he's putting on himself. That's what they need to talk about and how to get the joy back into the process.
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I think Jason said that his friend Emily suggested Tarzan.
I could be very wrong but after the free, I suspect injury even more. Axel or not, he does not seem in his element and after the skate he said something like: I did the best I could, and Tracy said: Good job, wow. I found the choice of words peculiar. I remember some seasons ago Jason was injured and we found out quite late, so he's not one to announce injuries. His concussion we found out from a guest on The Skating Lesson-for example. I do have a feeling he will improve by Nationals.
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I remember a false information on the severity of an injury of Jason Brown's on TSL. It was an injury, I think to a toe, about which Jason Brown himself had posted, but they had exaggerated a lot. They were so pessimistic on it that Jason Brown had to post a video of himself jumping triple jumps while their report would mean no jump at all. I don't think that they had apologised.
While I agree with some posters that there might be an injury, I would by no way rely on TSL to get any information.
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Disappointed for Jason of course, although invalidated jumps does make the score lower than it would have been.
I read that Jason said, this is where I was last year, but no one saw it. I think if he requires more time to get ready, and in the bonus years who could blame him, he might be better served just skipping the GP and showing up at Nats, per usual.This may be easier on his devoted fans
Although of course I would rather watch Jason skate, with a falls under rotations and whatever, than anyone else. Jason fans aren’t in it for judging rewards.
I read that Jason said, this is where I was last year, but no one saw it. I think if he requires more time to get ready, and in the bonus years who could blame him, he might be better served just skipping the GP and showing up at Nats, per usual.This may be easier on his devoted fans
Although of course I would rather watch Jason skate, with a falls under rotations and whatever, than anyone else. Jason fans aren’t in it for judging rewards.
I did not say they said anything about Jason's current state. In the past, the concussion info came from a guest and it was 100% accurate. Everyone was wondering why Jason wasn't attempting quads to find out he got into a car accident.
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That's what I recall also. I had my doubts at that time. My doubts are growing stronger now.
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It's definitely possible. I noted that exchange also, but it could mean almost anything. Something is wrong. It could be injury, it could be mental distress, it could be pretty much anything. Jason didn't seem distraught. But it's not the skate he wanted and we don't know what's going on. It could be injury. That is a possibility. That has been the case when his skating suddenly seemed to be going wrong. Time will tell. His elements other than jumps were fine. But even his flip wasn't up to his usual standard. We'll see going forward. Tracy seemed concerned, but very supportive. But this is not the Jason who skated World's 24. Something is going on.
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Not doing the GPs does relieve a lot of pressure. He has years of performance behind him and he does well at Nats, so maybe that was a better path for him at this point. He's to be commended for doing the GP circuit. It is early in the season and maybe that's all that it is. I didn't hear that comment that Jason made, but if it's true, early GPs are not in his best interest. We'll see what happens at NHK. He was upbeat and I'm glad to see that he didn't seem to be beating himself up. If he did the best he could, then that's all he can do. I'm glad that I got to see him skate.Disappointed for Jason of course, although invalidated jumps does make the score lower than it would have been.
I read that Jason said, this is where I was last year, but no one saw it. I think if he requires more time to get ready, and in the bonus years who could blame him, he might be better served just skipping the GP and showing up at Nats, per usual.This may be easier on his devoted fans
Although of course I would rather watch Jason skate, with a falls under rotations and whatever, than anyone else. Jason fans aren’t in it for judging rewards.
So agree with this!
The thing is, he wants to go to the Olympics, so GP or not, he needs body of work. He can't really escape early season competitions next season. I mean, I guess he could do only Golden Spin or something that is later but we don't know how the US men will look like then. Last Olympics he came in fourth at Nationals and it was very close to not making it. If he set this goal, I'm sure he's serious about it.
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First of all, I think Jason is very much involved in picking his music in collaboration with Rohene. And I agree - Rohene would not have skated to Tarzan (at least the Rohene I remember watching) If there is an injury it would explain why Jason just did not seem like himself at all this competition. He's had the 3A for a few years now and why all of a sudden is he not landing it? He was totally outskated this weekend and it was so sad to see. I hope whatever it is that's given him the whammies gets worked out before NHK.
I adore Jason and I feel bad for him. Jason needs to get his skating mojo back. It's hard to tell how good his programs could be because Jason hasn't skated either Tarzan or Mirror in Mirror clean yet. Hopefully, Jason's stamina will better by NHK and both programs will be much better. Yes, he needs to get the triple axel clean. I have faith in Jason. I think that next year's results will have a bigger effect on who goes to the Olympics. If Jason does well at Nationals this year and Worlds then, I think that he will be fine. Also, Jason might consider skating at the Golden Spin or Warsaw Cup before this year's Nationals.
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While I am not an uberfan, can we remember that it's early in the season and many skaters take a while to get going and that just a few years ago Jason was being consigned to the 'retire already you're finished!' bin and he came back splendidly from that? Let's give it a bit longer before doing that again, hmmm?
Well, non-fans or non-uberfans are already commenting stuff like: It's time to retire. Which is okay, 'cause I like when Jason proves people wrong afterward
. I do remember that last season he fell on the axel at Nationals' short, and was far from perfect in general, and then did well at Worlds...
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I'm catching up. I just watched Jason's free from this weekend. It's early in the season and I get that the first 3 jumps were a problem, however, I LOVE that program. As Johnny said, it has the potential to be simply mesmerizing. There are VERY few skaters in the world who can pull off that kind of simplicity. Jason and Shoma may be it. I can't wait to see it skated cleanly.
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I never once even thought to say Jason should retire. I can't imagine figure skating without him and I don't want to think about that. However, he is clearly not competition ready. And it IS early in the season. I have faith that he'll put it together by Nationals - as he always has. It's just painful to see him struggling when consistency has always been his forte!
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Jason should not retire one minute before he decides that it's what he wants most. I think he's still a great skater. None of the guys skated their best. But many have tech content that allows them to make errors and still score decently. Jason's tech failed him at this comp. But it is early in the season and all of them will get better. I read somewhere that Jason explained that he and Tracy are experimenting this year to see what works and what doesn't, with the aim of being very strategic next year. They are considering when to start training, probably which competitions to enter, how the choreo goes etc. And Jason has said that Tarzan is very hard to skate to. So it may be that altering his schedule and doing something about Tarzan will fix some of the problems at least. Supposedly, this is par for the course for Jason at this time of year for the past year or so. He does take a long time to get his choreo and make it work. We can't judge him on this one competition. He's got NHK ahead and that's even tougher than this one was, so we'll see how this goes. Getting to World's does seem to be a goal, but not the main goal. Figuring out his best path to the Olympics is the goal. So time will tell! I believe that we'll see a great program from Jason this year as long as he stays healthy. But I still think that they should reconsider Tarzan.
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