2024-25 Canadian Figure Skating
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We did it. Dance was the tiebreaker for first place.
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Say what you might, Matthew had no pressure and whlle did well (minus poor sp color shirt, is not very reliable considering how he did at Canada Nationals. I am not sure Skate Canada can deny Roman. Wesley missed Nats and 4CC's He hasn't done that well this year internationally. Roman didn't bomb. He deserves to go. I am not saying he is a great threat but he is the "best of the worst" it would appear. He has about 6 weeks to work on the 4S and 3A. He needs to exploit or be able to expliot his skating skills so he can score like Jason Brown even when the tech is missing.
As for the Canadian ladies. THere may have been some hope coming here but the results are very mediocre.
Happy for Lia and Trennt but I worry this team will be eaten up or get lost by Australia, Georgia, Germany USA, and the Italians. Add Japan and Deanna and Max and this team could be out of the top ten.
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I figured that out right away. Too bad it is based on two events. Men and Ladies still no real promise. There is more worry that a lady and man won't make it out of the sp then winning a top ten spot.
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My glass is half full.
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Maddie was sick.
well you know, Lia and Trennt beat 3 American teams at 4CC, and Lia was sick when she arrived at 4CC. They also beat the Australians already. So sure, they could lose to the Germans and the Italians, like most teams, and already lost to the Japanese... but why mention Australia, USA and why not Uzbekistan while at it ???
The real concern heading to Boston worlds, is not Canadian pairs but American ones. I invite you to discuss that topic in the appropriate thread.
With regards to our ladies, I was disappointed when I saw the results especially with Maddie. But my hopes came back when I read she was sick. And we also have to keep in mind that yes they have shown more promise this year but with minor successes comes higher expectations. In fact Sara Maude's score here was her highest of her 3 4CC events. Katherine is still new internationally and her first event against some big hitters. As well since our ladies do not have the rep of other countries they are not given bonus marks when they make errors to keep their score up there.
So much negativity from some people that's sad to see. I have faith in upcoming junior women for next year as well as Maddie to place well at Worlds. Sara Maude continues to be impressive at 4CC and I think Katherine has some of the most beautiful skating and I can't wait to see how she does next year with more international competitions.
We also need to keep in mind that even in the days when we had Gabby, Alaine, and Katelyn; Gabby was the only one to win a 4CC medal, yet she never won a GP medal. Katelyn did not even win a 4CC medal. Alaine did win a GP medal but she never made the top 10 at worlds. But the 3 of them took turns being National Champ and therefore pushing each other. So having a number of ladies all at about the same level will only help them all to push each other to do better. So let's look to the future.
Also let's not forget that by giving away a Host Spot at SCI in the ladies, sent the message that even Skate Canada did not have confidence in our developing ladies.
Also let's not forget that by giving away a Host Spot at SCI in the ladies, sent the message that even Skate Canada did not have confidence in our developing ladies.
I get you are pessimistic about the state of Canadian skating, but qualifying for the free for women at 2024 Worlds was 53.81. 2023 Worlds was 54.65. The only woman short of that was Katherine, who was at her second international assignment and first ISU championship.
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I have gone back over 50 years of historical data.
NOT ONCE, did Canada fail to qualify a skater for the long program in singles. NOT ONCE.
Even in the drought years of Jennifer Robinson.
Even weaker skaters like Amélie Lacoste who didn't have stable flips nor lutzes managed to qualify for the LP.
Of course, it has happened that our second or third skater had mishaps. However, the top skater for Canada always qualified for the LP, as far as I have looked, more than 50 years. If anyone wants to keep looking, if they find this relevant, I stopped in the early 70s
Back then, there were figures. It was 6.0. It's not even the same sport as of now
but I kept looking.
So yeah... if it happens, then it will happen... ice is slippery, but I'd like to convey here that it would be a great anomaly and not representative of decades of Canadian skating.
Of course, everyone is entitled to their opinion and darkest speculations, but the FACTS are there : Canadian single skaters, even the lowest level ones have always managed, every single year, to qualify at least ONE skater into the LP for the last 5 decades.
NOT ONCE, did Canada fail to qualify a skater for the long program in singles. NOT ONCE.
Even in the drought years of Jennifer Robinson.
Even weaker skaters like Amélie Lacoste who didn't have stable flips nor lutzes managed to qualify for the LP.
Of course, it has happened that our second or third skater had mishaps. However, the top skater for Canada always qualified for the LP, as far as I have looked, more than 50 years. If anyone wants to keep looking, if they find this relevant, I stopped in the early 70s
Back then, there were figures. It was 6.0. It's not even the same sport as of now
but I kept looking.So yeah... if it happens, then it will happen... ice is slippery, but I'd like to convey here that it would be a great anomaly and not representative of decades of Canadian skating.
Of course, everyone is entitled to their opinion and darkest speculations, but the FACTS are there : Canadian single skaters, even the lowest level ones have always managed, every single year, to qualify at least ONE skater into the LP for the last 5 decades.
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I agree with your comments about Roman. I am almost at the point where I am not invested in his performance but feel sad for him (and us). Wesley has dealt with injuries this year so I am hopeful he will come back to his previous level of skating but agree - not this year. So focussed on the future. There are younger men at home who may develop (my hopes are on John Kim with 2 quads and a triple axel, but he may be another unpredictable performer like Roman).
Matthew was doing a lot of doubles in December at Challenge (another injury I am assuming) but his artistry is wonderful when he can deliver. What I was very happy about last night was that - even though Matthew popped the triple axel at the beginning of the program, he didn't give up on the rest of the programme. In the past, he has fallen apart after a mistake. So that is good news. Not sure he will be the "next one" either but I can still enjoy his skating.
Lia and Trennt have really stepped up this year. I love both their programmes. At Cdns, she had such a sparkle to her skating - a bit more subdued here because of her illness as reported by the commentator (24 hrs - thinking perhaps norovirus?). As already stated, this team did beat all 3 American teams here. I think that right now they are competitive with the teams just off the podium - so perhaps a top 6 again? And ready to take advantage if other teams falter.
Didn't know Maddie was sick but makes sense. She definitely skated better at Cdns. She was very "restrained" in her skating last night and as the commentator noted, she was absolutely done in at the end. So it looks like that virus took a lot out of her performance. I am more worried about why she consistently doesnt get better levels in the step sequence and spins. She looks like she is taking care to do things right but not getting the nod from the tech panel. Her 3Lz-3T is usually performed well - so she is overall competitive. She def still deserves the world's spot IMO.
I haven't watched her FP yet, so cannot comment on that. When I posted after the SP, I did not know that Maddie was ill. I was concerned that complacency had crept in with her Worlds spot having already been confirmed, as she seemed kind of bored/disinterested. I was disappointed after the improvement at Nationals. If she was ill this week, that would explain things.
Yes, Matthew Newnham was injured earlier in this season. Ted commented at Nationals that he was on his way back from injury (I think he might have said ankle, but I'm really not certain).
Lia and Trent, I would put in the second cluster of pairs internationally. Hase/Volodin, Miura/Kihara, Deanna/Max, the Georgians and Conti/Macii are ahead. Lia and Trent are roughly on a par with the top couple of US pairs, the Hungarians, the second German and Italian pairs, and the Usbek pair. I think the Australian pair have dropped out of that group for the moment (they really need to sort their twist out - it's holding them back).
Yes, Matthew Newnham was injured earlier in this season. Ted commented at Nationals that he was on his way back from injury (I think he might have said ankle, but I'm really not certain).
Lia and Trent, I would put in the second cluster of pairs internationally. Hase/Volodin, Miura/Kihara, Deanna/Max, the Georgians and Conti/Macii are ahead. Lia and Trent are roughly on a par with the top couple of US pairs, the Hungarians, the second German and Italian pairs, and the Usbek pair. I think the Australian pair have dropped out of that group for the moment (they really need to sort their twist out - it's holding them back).
I forget who mentioned this but conti/macchi don’t t have a group 5 lift but doesn’t seem to matter for them. Lia and Trent with no mistakes have better programs than alot of the others. The Georgians are mostly clean but the death program is terrible. I hope they do well
Roman has officially been named for Worlds.
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Quite an accomplishment but because the men and women did so poorly if you went by team total points I don't think Canada would do so well.
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Well, this was 4CC, and the competition wasn't a team event with points... so why bring this up ?
Looking at points from the OG qualification thread :
USA 2804
Japan 2405
Canada 2246
Korea 2092
Kazakhstan 1523
So, sure, Canada is in third place, but much closer to Japan than expected. USA got more points than usually, mostly because Japanese single skaters grossly under-performed. Other wise, Japan and USA would be a bit closer.
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I am not really invested in Sadovskiy, but I can't see anyone else in the men's field to invest in, it's seriously devoid of talent. In women, there is a high-scoring junior woman and a rumoured Korean transfer, but 4 years is a long time, and senior women field can use more infusions. At the moment, singles disciplines are reflecting the performances with one spot in the second half of the season, and it makes sense that they send a national champion.
