2025-26 Grand Prix Final Free Dance

[auser]

Piper and Paul were kicked ouf of the podium by 0.06 points after skating their cleanest program of the year.
FBC fell "not on an element"

I think that's the most polite way to put it.

I am actually navigating much better than I thought I would. Now I know that Piper and Paul will not win a medal at the Olympics (same technical panel) and I have 2 months to go the 5 stages of grief.

I so hope that is not true! I am so upset. Not ready to admit I might be in denial of whatever weird judging.

 

[labgoat]

I agree that the dress needed work done to it to prevent what we saw happen to Laurence. But, I think a section of material is more effective, as it has the double meaning of the red door in the song, and the red rag being held up to the bull in the story being told.

Maybe a smaller section than she had previously, perhaps somewhere else on the dress.

CaroLiza_fan

Maybe they will save that change as something to freshen the dance up for Nationals and to talk about before Olympics rather than saying the same things over and over again...

 

[labgoat]

Now I have to prepare myself for no medals at the Olympics for Canada

Ice is slippery and you never know - remember Torino?

 

[skatingguy]

that's a fair comment.... but does Lilah have such flexibility, posture and extension ?

That can’t be it, because where are those attributes in Lilah Fear? I don’t see it at all!

I think the difference, which is obviously razor thin, is that Fear/Gibson are doing new material, and Gilles/Poirier are repeating a program concept.

 

[museksk8r]

Waiting on skatingscores.com to update and give proof that Piper and Paul were bloc judged by IAM affiliated nations who showered them with low GOEs.

 

[labgoat]

Misheard lyrics by me during the awards ceremony - Over and over again
Let's get ready for the drinking game... (and I don't even drink!)

 

[labgoat]

I think the difference, which is obviously razor thin, is that Fear/Gibson are doing new material, and Gilles/Poirier are repeating a program concept.

I think Piper & Paul should have revisited Wuthering Heights

 

[Blackmirage]

Gilles/Poirier were my favourites in the last some years versus Chock/Bates, whom they go down in the history as the most overscored , but best"packeged" team. Nevertheless I really think that now Piper/Paul became outdated with limited lines, extension, excitement and speed.
After 15 years in the top sphere of the sport they could provide something more remarkable and significant (so Chock/bates should do, honestly).
I am underwhelmed of them. Some refers here the Italians winning in the Gold Spin in Zagreb, not being able to be here. What I said is sadly relevant to them as well.
I am really looking forward to see more of Zingas/Kolesnyk, Laioie/Lagha and the likes of them from next season (together with Beaudry and Cizeron if they continue their creation of art).

 

[DancingCactus]

If the judges want me to start hating this sport, they're making good headway.

 

[lauravvv]

Piper and Paul were kicked ouf of the podium by 0.06 points after skating their cleanest program of the year.
FBC fell "not on an element"

Yes, but F-B/C were punished quite harshly for that fall in terms of PCS, their PCS going down below both Gilles/Poirier and Fear/Gibson (which I personally think shouldn't happen in regards to F/G even with a fall). Let me remind you that it didn't happen to Chock/Bates in 2023 when they won Worlds with a fall outside of elements in the FD. Their PCS were lowered, but clearly by a lot less than F-B/C's.

As for Gilles/Poirier losing to Fear/Gibson with such a clean skate, that's definitely very unfair. While F/G have the entertainment factor and some "cooler" elements, their skating actually looks smaller and slower than G/P's, and they don't have better posture, lines and extensions, as it was already noted.

Now I know that Piper and Paul will not win a medal at the Olympics (same technical panel) and I have 2 months to go the 5 stages of grief.

As we already know, the technical panel was not at fault this time, judges were. I think it won't be the same judging panel at Olympics, so there is still some hope for G/P.

 

[Miya88]

V/M was getting 10s with a fall, remember the times?

 

[slider11]

Yes, but F-B/C were punished quite harshly for that fall in terms of PCS, their PCS going down below both Gilles/Poirier and Fear/Gibson (which I personally think shouldn't happen in regards to F/G even with a fall). Let me remind you that it didn't happen to Chock/Bates in 2023 when they won Worlds with a fall outside of elements in the FD. Their PCS were lowered, but clearly by a lot less than F-B/C's.

As for Gilles/Poirier losing to Fear/Gibson with such a clean skate, that's definitely very unfair. While F/G have the entertainment factor and some "cooler" elements, their skating actually looks smaller and slower than G/P's, and they don't have better posture, lines and extensions, as it was already noted.
As we already now, the technical panel was not at fault this time, judges were. I think it won't be the same judging panel at Olympics, so there is still some hope for G/P.

I think this is a very valid point. It is bewildering to me how some judges flip-flop with awarding the glitz of one program over the artistically superiority of others. Lilah and Lewis are great entertainers but Piper and Paul deserved better. I hope this serves to motivate Piper and Paul; there is still that important Olympic performance to come!

 

[Andrea82]

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All judges with Chock/Bates 1st in the FD
2nd for Fournier Beaudry/Cizeron for Canada, Great Britain, France.
Kazakh judge had Gilles/Poirier 2nd and Fournier Beaudry/Cizeron 5th. She was the only judge with G/P 2nd.
Canadian and Chinese judges had G/P third.
Fear/Gibson were 2nd for Great Britain, Lithuania, China, USA, Hungary and Japan

 

[Miya88]

French lost about 6 points overall
Americans twizzles are a joke, their levels as well


french judge being honest and "objective" makes me sick, meanwhile other overscore their own skaters

 

[slider11]

I wonder if Piper and Paul were dinged for daring to speak out, speaking of the love of the expression of ice dance and the application of pure techniques. There was a subtle reference to the inconsistencies of judges. They're a mature pair and I think this GPF placement may make some in the judging world give a thought to how they are awarding goe's. In the long game (Olympics), it may be helpful to Piper and Paul.

 

[ManyCairns]

Tbh it's better for them to loose to Bock because of the unfortunate fall than to loose when skating well. The narration will be that they would've won if not the fall.

Yes, and the win is a consolation "gift" to C/B when they lose to them next time.

 

[4everchan]

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All judges with Chock/Bates 1st in the FD
2nd for Fournier Beaudry/Cizeron for Canada, Great Britain, France.
Kazakh judge had Gilles/Poirier 2nd and Fournier Beaudry/Cizeron 5th. She was the only judge with G/P 2nd.
Canadian and Chinese judges had G/P third.
Fear/Gibson were 2nd for Great Britain, Lithuania, China, USA, Hungary and Japan

So IAM judges is a thing after all.

 

[museksk8r]

It feels so strange seeing the gold medal winning couple have the weakest twizzles in the entire field. Chock/Bates had weak twizzles in both segments of the event, but it doesn’t seem to matter when they have issues with that element the way it matters for other teams. Fear/Gibson being ranked 2nd in skating skills in this field by 2 judges is really a choice. Ice dance judging has become the very definition of frustrating and tedious. I can’t make any sense of it at all!

 

[ManyCairns]

They looked terrified in their starting position. Like rabbits in the headlights.

The opening section was good, but there is not the same energy to it as usual.

In fact, that could be said of the whole programme. Even the bit of choreography they did by the boards near the end didn't have the same impact it normally does.

Vadym looked absolutely wrecked when they finished.

I think doing too many events in too short a space of time is catching up with them.

I hope they are not doing any more between now and Nationals. Let them recharge their batteries.

They wave to us from the results area. But they look disappointed / tired.

They go into the lead. Obviously.

WELL DONE EMILEA AND VADYM!!!

CaroLiza_fan

As a fellow uberfan of this lovely team, I have to disagree with your impression of the performance. I thought they had the intensity in spades and even brought a kind of desperate romantic passion out in the program that had not been as present in previous performances. Technically as sharp as ever.

Emilea and Vadym's performances always captivate me from start to finish -- their dances always seem short and I am always "surprised" when they end because I am enjoying every moment and completely along for the ride.

 

[4everchan]

I think the difference, which is obviously razor thin, is that Fear/Gibson are doing new material, and Gilles/Poirier are repeating a program concept.

how many times have they skated the same program (with different music) ...I mean we cannot really say the Brits are polyvalent