If will be a different judge at the Olympics. There is more than one Canadian judge.
Thing is, it needs to be yobboish and somewhat sleazy, the song itself is yobboish and somewhat sleazy. It's meant to be. No ID team with half a brain cell is going to offer the judges yobboish and sleazy which is why at the start of season I really didn't think anyone would pick it, and I still think they shouldn't have.
Hanlon's Razor, remember....Mark: "Everybody wants to see the success of the sport"
Not the ISU! The things they are doing are turning people off!
CaroLiza_fan
May I remind you that the French judge low-balls the Canadians in Finlandia? The argument then was that it didn't matter because it was an outlier , right?
I adore Z/K and thought they were fabulous today.
The Canadian Judge at the Olympics is Leslie Keen. You can see her profile on skating scores here: https://skatingscores.com/can/official/leslie_keen/
This was always the likely outcome, given the politics we've seen in the last few years. Even when they were clearly better Piper and Paul couldn't catch a break. But it was even more likely after Piper spoke out over Finlandia. The powers that be hate criticism — any criticism.
I'd love to hear more about why you think this.
To me, it's like one can think of Piper and Paul as doing a traditional ID in the style of [fill in the blank with the RD of the season]. Whereas other teams seem to approach the RD with the mindset of "How do we perform this style of dance on ice?" I still really enjoy what Piper and Paul put out there -- but I do see your point.
I agree this was by far the best performance of this program for them this season. I love hearing Mark searching for words to describe what I felt about them skating this Rhythm dance though - that they are just too stiff. Mark said much more diplomatically that some have called them to formal and old school for this, probably because they skated when they were still compulsory dances, so they are great when it comes to the traditional patterns and whatnot but maybe not as language and loose when it comes to what is needed for this type of music and style.
Different season, different dance, different requirements.
100% I've said that since the first time I saw this dance. Besides the fact that the choreography is just not that inspiring, the most distressing part about this is Paul's posture. I agree 100% that he States far too stiff for this and exactly as you said, like he's dancing a foxtrot or something. His posture is perfect, but it looks like he has a 2x4 down the back of his costume. It is just not convincing and he looks incredibly uncomfortable. Especially when you see it in slow motion, he looks so incredibly uncomfortable and forced. Which is sad, because I have wanted them to win the gold medal for some time now, but other than the year when Piper had her surgery, the Rhythm dance has always let them down, and I think the same is the case this year.
Watch the ice coverage - not as good as Piper and Paul. But they sold the hell out of this, and unlike Piper and paul, they're much more balanced in terms of the expression component of the dance.
I'm genuinely interested in knowing what you mean by this. I am no ice dance expert, so I'm always interested in learning more. What aspects do you mean? Do you just mean the fact that they're doing a lot of side by side skating, not much in hold, not a lot of turning and moving around each other?
Why? I'm honestly interested?
Piper and Paul do not skate right at all for this dance. Paul skates way too much like a ballroom dancer, and while their speed and Ice coverage is superior, Piper looks like she's skating with a mannequin for most of it. So while they are slower with a much smaller patterns and less ice coverage, Madison and Evan outperform them in lots of other ways. That said, it's pretty crazy that they are beating them in the technical category, because Paul and Piper have always been solid technicians. So I do agree that it is a little confusing...
I have loved many of Piper and Paul's programs, but this one is just not it! I'm not saying the others have amazing programs that I love either, but the way they skate - their basic technique and posture - while fundamentally solid and impressive when it comes to blades on the ice, just does not fit the loose, more casual feel that this type of music demands. Paul is skating this like it's a foxtrot or some sort of compulsory dance from 1995.
