2026 Olympics: Women's Free Skate | Page 88 | Golden Skate

2026 Olympics: Women's Free Skate

Status
Not open for further replies.
I dislike her coach to high heaven but I feel terrible for Petrosian after reading this. Is the poor girl in some sort of hostage situation? I really hope there’s something lost in translation here and she wasn’t literally forced to do quads that she couldn’t do.

 
I dislike her coach to high heaven but I feel terrible for Petrosian after reading this. Is the poor girl in some sort of hostage situation? I really hope there’s something lost in translation here and she wasn’t literally forced to do quads that she couldn’t do.

She wasn’t forced to do anything! She chose to go for it and chose to abandon the 2 quad plan. The coaches exist to encourage fulfilling potential! And she wasn’t going anywhere with all triples
 
Correct me, but isn't that three times as much ultra C as was shown in the Olympics? Barring a dropped 4T Petrosyan, the stats would be 3-0 in favor of a national start.
I'm also not going to mention the RusNat competitors who successfully landed 1 or more 3As, since you don't mention them. But even here the stats are not in favor of the Olympics.
Yes, that's three times more ultra C than was shown here. But, if Petrosian had landed her quad, she wouldn't have won anyway. Ultra-C isn't everything you know...
 
If Trusova returns to the grand prix stages (and she has the opportunity to do so if Russia is allowed in neutral status or God knows how else) with all triple jumps and a stable quadlutz and possibly another quad, are you sure that won't be enough to win? In the current situation?
I'm not really sure about the seriousness of her plans, but I'm fascinated by the speed of her recovery. Mind you, she's 21 and she's post-op. There's a sense that the era of new adult female ultra-C athletes is coming. They have been trained in these jumps since childhood, as Kamila and Sasha's example shows, they have no trouble remembering how to do it.
Yes, that would be great! And as I also said before, if you have learned these difficult elements as a junior, I think it's easier to regain them later, Tuktamysheva is the proof of that. So, I'd love to see them return, I'm not so sure it will be with the same tech content...that's all.
 
She wasn’t forced to do anything! She chose to go for it and chose to abandon the 2 quad plan. The coaches exist to encourage fulfilling potential! And she wasn’t going anywhere with all triples
I'm surprised there wasn't a back-up plan to have a high scoring LP without the 4T or 3A, given how prepared Eteri's skaters normally are. Those elements seemed to be missing for awhile now and she might have been able to capture bronze by backloading some difficult combos.
 
I'm surprised there wasn't a back-up plan to have a high scoring LP without the 4T or 3A, given how prepared Eteri's skaters normally are. Those elements seemed to be missing for awhile now and she might have been able to capture bronze by backloading some difficult combos.
I thought that was what the 3lz 2a 2a was all about! Isn’t that something in addition to her 3/3

Petrosian also very close to being called a flutzer! That didn’t help. Almost no goe across the board twice
 
Last edited:
I'm surprised there wasn't a back-up plan to have a high scoring LP without the 4T or 3A, given how prepared Eteri's skaters normally are. Those elements seemed to be missing for awhile now and she might have been able to capture bronze by backloading some difficult combos.
This is where I think Alysa is super smart. She may not live and die by medals but she made sure she had a backloaded lutz-loop to keep up with the skaters who have 3As. Doesn’t put her in the lead but with her trademark stability….. well gold medal it is!
 
I don't know if this has been brought up, but I just realised that if Kaori had done a 2T after her second 3F she would have won...
Obviously she couldn't do a 2T later in the 3 jump combo but at least she wouldn't have had the +REP on the 3F.

She lost by a 2T :(
 
I thought that was what the 3lz 2a 2a was all about! Isn’t that something in addition to her 3/3

Petrosian also very close to being called a flutzer! That didn’t help. Almost no goe across the board twice
Sorry, I meant have a full jump line-up that excludes the quad that she was having so much trouble with.
 
I don't know if this has been brought up, but I just realised that if Kaori had done a 2T after her second 3F she would have won...
Obviously she couldn't do a 2T later in the 3 jump combo but at least she wouldn't have had the +REP on the 3F.

She lost by a 2T :(

She could've done a 1T even, would've been enough,
Unless the judges would've dropped her PCS for it
 
Last edited:
I don't know if this has been brought up, but I just realised that if Kaori had done a 2T after her second 3F she would have won...
Obviously she couldn't do a 2T later in the 3 jump combo but at least she wouldn't have had the +REP on the 3F.

She lost by a 2T :(
I'm not entirely sure she could have gotten a clean 2T on that flip. She was already facing the opposite direction by the time she regained control.
 
Sorry, I meant have a full jump line-up that excludes the quad that she was having so much trouble with.
They did but and she did it Beijing but it wasn’t ever supposed to be done at Olympics. So any time she landed a quad even at 20% they were going to put at least one in.
 
landed it on the wrong foot (which is totally different and more egregious than a "double-footed" landing where the free foot touches down)
It's not more egregious. There is no deduction for landing on a different foot and she displayed decent control of the landing and didn't heavily slam her other foot into the ice, which is what happens on the most egregious double-footed landings.

I think the 3F was sufficiently rotated (! was merited though), but the 3L was definitely at least a q for me
Her 3F had no edge issue, there was a very clear 3-turn in and no lean to the outside. An "inside edge" shouldn't be the strict requirement for a Flip in the first place; doing that jump from a straight edge has historically been considered correct and should continue to be the way the jump is assessed.

The 3Loop was totally fine. You're clearly not measuring the actual rotation. This is her landing:

sJZRoPZ.png


She takes off with her skate facing the board behind her, or slightly past it. The angle of this landing is unquestionably far enough around compared to that takeoff angle.

Alysa is the one who has actual rotation issues and should be getting lower GOE for her huge pre-rotations on the Lutz and Toeloop. Nakai's Flip and Loop were totally normal jumps. Any system or judge that tries to hammer those jumps is a bad system/judge. Bullshit like this that operates contrary to reality has been negatively impacting the sport for far too long.

Sadly even a 1T after the flip would've dropped the REP and won Kaori the event
This is a dumb thing in the scoring system. Doing a 1T is bad and doesn't impress anyone. It's visually always a mistake within a program. Whereas a solo jump does not interrupt the flow.

It's another reason why the system should give bonuses for jump combos, and not have the REP deduction. If you leave out a required combo, you're already losing a significant amount of points.
 
Last edited:
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top