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I concur. That he did not get to skate it at the Olympics disrupted the rich tapestry of men’s skating that event should have beenkeep it together, Vovan! we need to see your Joker
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I concur. That he did not get to skate it at the Olympics disrupted the rich tapestry of men’s skating that event should have beenkeep it together, Vovan! we need to see your Joker
but Vovan is already a nominee in the most prestigious award of the centuryI had in mind prejudices against immigrants, I think that there are everywhere and for everybody, and interestingly, sometimes opposite for the same origin in different countries. I have read that Italian immigrants in France were called macaroni, and wasn't more shocked than when reading French people being called froggies (nobody around me have ever eaten frogs, French frogs have been protected for so long and imported frogs being killed so inhumanely we wouldn't even try), or snail-eaters (I've discovered this delight in Spain and eaten more in Spain than in France overall, I think that a few Italian villages have snails too)... To me these are acceptable nicknames per se but of course, any nickname or proper name can be used in a disparaging way, it's in the meaning of the locutor (and then, even when disparaging, often it's more ridiculous than hateful; as we say in France, better to laugh of it than to cry, it's not always possible but it's often so).one thing is an innocent joke among family member, one thing is when an announcer mock someone with a fake and offensive accent. again, think of the chinese accent with no R and all L. and italians, being immigrants, are prejudiced in many countries in Europe and North America, although now racists have different groups of immigrant as a target so we went kind of out of fashion. are you french, right? we were called Macaroni in your country up untill the 70s if i well recall. the swiss still call us rats (of course not every single swiss person, only the racist and xenophobe). the thing is that someone might even do it without realizing they're being offensive, that's just because some things are hard to die, like normalized offensive stereotypes
Hello everyone, I wanted to join but with the current situation I'm gonna have to empty a whole pint of ice cream and drink myself to sleep
the origin of those nicknames is the centuries long rivalry with England btw, nobody associates France with organized crime i.e., you know how many times i've heard "oh! Italy! Mafia so cool!" (they're thinking of the Godfather of course, again stereotypes).I had in mind prejudices against immigrants, I think that there are everywhere and for everybody, and interestingly, sometimes opposite for the same origin in different countries. I have read that Italian immigrants in France were called macaroni, and wasn't more shocked than when reading French people being called froggies (nobody around me have ever eaten frogs, French frogs have been protected for so long and imported frogs being killed so inhumanely we wouldn't even try), or snail-eaters (I've discovered this delight in Spain and eaten more in Spain than in France overall, I think that a few Italian villages have snails too)... To me these are acceptable nicknames per se but of course, any nickname or proper name can be used in a disparaging way, it's in the meaning of the locutor (and then, even when disparaging, often it's more ridiculous than hateful; as we say in France, better to laugh of it than to cry, it's not always possible but it's often so).
He did! He's a beautiful skater - I agree with Mark's comments that Tamir is one to look out for the future - his skating is beautiful.Don’t cry kid, you did great!!
the judges need to award him the PCS he deserves - 40.93 for that beautifully skated programme is way, way, too lowDeniss
He deserves a skate like this after an uphill season!
Now, judges, don't kill figure skating!


I loved that Mark positively compared Deniss's beautiful skating to Jason's - I also found Mark's insight into how Deniss's spine and posture were so important in drawing the audience into his skating.Deniss. Gorgeous shirt. Beautiful program and skate. I am actually tearing up. And so wonderful to see his scarves in the audience. His posture is so beautiful.![]()
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