Mens SP

[oxade21]

Chan scored lower than Joubert on all of the PCS sections. I guess running across the ice, humping the air, standing on the spot, and arm pumping equates into transitions and choreoography.

PCS has many more aspects besides transition. Choreography is again very subjective matter.

 

[Hsuhs]

Maybe most of the judges today were females and they all has crush on Joubert?

Your right! 7 out of the 9 were!
http://www.isuresults.com/results/wc2009/SEG001OF.HTM

 

[bekalc]

Chan scored lower than Joubert on all of the PCS sections. I guess running across the ice, humping the air, standing on the spot, and arm pumping equates into transitions and choreoography.

I actually like Joubert's program better than Chan's, it relates to the audience better. He should get less on choregraphy/transitions mark. But I'd so give Joubert execution and Presentation over Chan.

 

[Mafke]

Maybe most of the judges today were females and they all has crush on Joubert?

Something tells me it's not just females who have a crush on Brian "Air-humper" Joubert.

 

[DarkestMoon]

What are those merits? Have you seen protocols?
You can't score 90 points on simply amazing transitions and cleanly landed triple jumps while other competitor go out and attempts something more challenging. I am sure Chan gets his due in transitions as he always does. Bu it is only one element of many. And we shall wait for protocols before screamed robbed.

Transitions into perfectly execute triples = +GOES
Wonky Quad = higher points but - GOES

It evens out the scores if you're actually thinking about how the code works as opposing to barfing words out of your keyboard.

 

[Medusa]

Brian Joubert was acting really weird after his performance (skating around the rink before bowing, little to no reaction to marks). I thought maybe he was upset about his wonky 4-3, but his marks were pretty huge (too huge, imho). Any ideas about what was up?

I don't know. He really didn't react at all to his marks. And the way he was skating around the rink - for a moment I thought he was dizzy or so. Or maybe too disappointed.

Well, I wanted to say congrats to Chan for nailing the Triple Axel, that was reported as very shaky during the practises. Congrats to Joubert for somehow ticking on that 3T after being basically on his nose on the 4T. Congrats to Mroz, who was reported to have horrific practises, for nailing everything.

I like it when skaters overcome their difficulties and keep on fighting

 

[i love to skate]

PCS has many more aspects besides transition. Choreography is again very subjective matter.

I know it has more aspects, I was pointing out the transition and choreography sections since you said Chan would get his due on transitions and he obviously did not.

 

[oxade21]

Transitions into perfectly execute triples = +GOES
Wonky Quad = higher points but - GOES

It evens out the scores if you're actually thinking about how the code works as opposing to barfing words out of your keyboard.

The one who is barfing is you. Gee, get a life.

As for GOEs why don't you look at protocol and than come back to spit your vomit around.

 

[Hsuhs]

Well, I wanted to say congrats to Chan for nailing the Triple Axel, that was reported as very shaky during the practises. Congrats to Joubert for somehow ticking on that 3T after being basically on his nose on the 4T. Congrats to Mroz, who was reported to have horrific practises, for nailing everything.

I second that

 

[DarkestMoon]

The one who is barfing is you. Gee, get a life.

As for GOEs why don't you look at protocol and than come back to spit your vomit around.

Ooo, great comeback. Can you think of a better one, especially since I basically explained to you why transitions can theoretically help one score over 90.

Why don't you learn the code instead of insisting that a messy landed quad should put you in first, end all be all, over a more balanced program?

 

[Tinymavy15]

Standing O for Evan!

Loved how the crowd went silent for Brian at the end, almost felt like they had to applaud. Uninspired performance, not that I'm surprised! Marks not deserved at all!

I was there live and let me tell you nobody understood the scoring. Brian skated worse than he does many times and they dinge him. I don't get it. The quad was n't clean, the 3 toe CERTAINLY wasn't clean, and the footwork, was more suited for an exhbition than a competition.

Evan brough that house down. you copudl literally hear a pin drop when he began.

standings should be:

Patrick
Evan
Italian Guy

 

[DarkestMoon]

I know it has more aspects, I was pointing out the transition and choreography sections since you said Chan would get his due on transitions and he obviously did not.

True and we don't even know how basic skating is accounted for either.

 

[oxade21]

Well, let me fuel some fire here.
On one of the Russian boards, it has been rumored that Russian tech specialist Lakernik has something to do with Joubert's high scores. LOL.

 

[demarinis5]

I am not happy that Evan is in second place imo he deserved first. He had the best SP tonight, that is my story and I am sticking to it.

 

[BBI*CEO]

Even if Patrick has been overscored previously, that doesn't explain the glaring scoring discrepancies we've been seeing all across the board today. Something's out of whack, and the French have "supported" the russians before and V.V.

 

[katymay]

Well, let me fuel some fire here.
On one of the Russian boards, it has been rumored that Russian tech specialist Lakernik has something to do with Joubert's high scores. LOL.

But then why was Verner (CZE) underscored? (The only 'eastern bloc' skater). He had a perfect quad combo.

 

[oxade21]

But then why was Verner (CZE) underscored? (The only 'eastern bloc' skater). He had a perfect quad combo.

Because it is not about blocs. It is said to be a battle of two sides technical vs. artistry.

 

[enlight78]

I think all the new guys got underscored in the PCs.Kozuka,Chan,Abbot,Mroz.Even Verner was low balled.
I am mixed between being shocked or disgusted by this judging. I almost believe the judges are trying to punish chan.

 

[Hsuhs]

I think all the new guys got underscored in the PCs.Kozuka,Chan,Abbot,Mroz.Even Verner was low balled.
I am mixed between being shocked or disgusted by this judging. I almost believe the judges are trying to punish chan.

Punish Chan for what? He hasn't done anything wrong, AFAIK.

 

[Trewyn]

^^ Exactly what I was thinking. Maybe they took Brian's sides in his 'catfight' with Chan. They said COP should value quads more, we're going to make it happen. Only... even a quad should be clean to get the good marks.