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Michelle Attends U.S. State Dinner for China President Hu Jintao

I don't think we believe she's important or will save the world, Seanibu. As Mathman says, we do believe that we are watching someone with potential, and it's very heartening to see a skater move on to such an interesting and possibly impressive second act.
 
Absolutely, How would anyone ever think anything else. And we are "here and now" so keeping reality "honest" is likely going to provide the best result. Of course we could take seriously that 2+2 in 30 years might equal 5, but for right now it still equals 4.

What is with this, cart before the horse, importance glorified and yet now with trying to belittle my comments it seems they are only getting more and more valid. I feel like bringing people back to reality is a aspect that is only done if the person responsible for the "reality check" is argued and not validated. Lord I know Just how Jimmy Carter felt when he gave us the bad news.
 
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"But the thing is, the different Chinese dialects originated in China which means even though they're all considered "chinese""
Wrong. The people of Tibet or Xinjiang speak their own language. The Chinese is imperialist language to them. Further, the many china dialects started as different languages and were different from Mandarin.

Wrong; in most schools in Tibet, children are taught in standard Mandarin once they reach secondary school, thus why more Tibetans in urban areas speak Chinese than ones in rural areas. Also, all these dialects are considered fundamentally "Chinese" since they originate from a shared culture, not necessarily Mandarin. "China" is being used here to refer to the Chinese culture, that is a group of people with a shared identity of some sort (albeit also with unique differences depending on the region).
 
You ever been to Louisiana??? ah semantics.

yes, I have. but I would have to say they aren't teh norm for the rest of the states... Creole and Cajun, yes, they are definitely their own language, a mixture of French and English with a Southern accent... but in the two days I was in New Orleans (and the one night I was in Baton Rouge) I never found one of those stereotypical Cajuns... I grew up with a friend who's mama was that stereotype cajun, but she wasn't difficult to understand. The ones on TV/in the movies are.

The better argument for different dialects of English would be American English, Canadian English, Modern and Kings English... there are definite misinterpretations when trying to speak those...
 
That's interesting about President Hu's degree, Math. I always am curious about what well-known and accomplished people studied. Sometimes it really surprises one....I often find, by the way, that politicians in other countries have degrees in much more substantive fields of study than American politicians do.

Most American politicians seem to take law degrees. My impression is that in China it is common to get a degree in something like engineering, then work your way up to be in charge of big public works projects, and rise in political responsibility by that route.
 
@Seanibu: Okay. My issue with your wording was not dialect, but grammatical issues (BECAUSE YOU WRITE SO DARN MUCH).

For example:
there COULD have been a time where providence's did not want others providence to understand each other
Alright. In your region in America, do they have the different grammatical rules on apostrophes and plurals than in mine? I'm not trying to attack you personally, I'm trying to tell you why I asked you to clarify what you meant.

Example:
Most Chinese seem to know Mandarin that were born after 1980.
I misunderstood this because it was written out. After I read it out loud, regardless of what "dialect" of English you were speaking, I understood what it meant. It's similar to how people have to say things out loud to realize or process what it means. There's a difference in processing something visually versus something auditory.

Hence this is a perception factor of grammar due to the fact I feel as thought there is horrible grammar posted in this forum - and who cares this is not grammar skater forum. The point is understanding. Bad thing about this is how it brings to light the preconceived nature of understanding.
Yes, I know there is a lot of terrible grammar in this forum. I have terrible grammar sometimes. And like you said, the point is understanding.

The reason why I kept asked you twice to clarify two different posts is because you had written a lot (a large wall of text, so to speak) in both posts, and I wanted to understand the many different points you wanted to convey. If you'd written a sentence or two, I'm sure I would have understood you just fine.

My point is, I wasn't trying to attack your grammar; I wanted to comprehend what you were saying!

I think the real issue here is that people really believe MK is much more important than she really has demonstrated on a world level to the world. She means so much to us, but ...

In my personal opinion, I don't think Michelle is without flaws (i.e. public speaking) and I don't worship her as some great being in an ancient tree. I like Michelle because she was my role model growing up as one of the few Asian-American in the spotlight. So she isn't "very important on a world level" but as you said, "She means so much to us". It's not like she can't be a source of inspiration for people (in their "world", so to speak). But I don't blame you for interpreting many of the posts here in that way.

So when I try to bring some of you down to earth you get upset.

Some of us are joking. May not seem like it, but we are. And I would think that all of us are down here on Earth most of the time. And why can't we go over-the-moon about something we love sometimes? Like right now, I am over-the-moon because this week's episode of NCIS is still online, therefore, I can still watch it.

Since this is a Michelle thread, why can't we hope for the best for her or joke that she's can change the world with a flick of her hair or something?

But a lot of European and Asian leaders speak at least one more language. In our recent history, it's been several secretaries of state who spoke more than one language. Condoleezza Rice is fluent in Russian, I think. Madeline Albright speaks at least three languages--I'm fairly sure she speaks French, and she also speaks Czech because her family came from there.

That's very interesting! Thank you!
 
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Thank you for the "better examples" - but the point proven is really left to the word it's self.

And here we have the link in that post to provide the proof btw - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialects_of_English - thanks for posting that Toni.:)

wow quick edit - can't let that get thru. Fast Toni Fast.

? what edit? I've been working on photographs. I don't see an edit on my post or yours ?
 
But I hate writing essays! Though, I'm not half-bad at them ... I just write quite slowly ...

Oh shoot. I have an essay due soon! Thanks for reminding me!

:laugh: you're welcome, good luck with it! I loved writing Essays so long as the topic was interesting.
 
:laugh: you're welcome, good luck with it! I loved writing Essays so long as the topic was interesting.

Thanks!

I have to write a reading response (not an essay, whew. Scared myself there) on "Uneven Development in the World System". It doesn't sound very appealing to me ...

In addition to that, my housemate downstairs is yelling and screaming and cussing like a sailor (she's watching the football game).
 
Some of us are joking. May not seem like it, but we are. And I would think that all of us are down here on Earth most of the time. And why can't we go over-the-moon about something we love sometimes? Like right now, I am over-the-moon because this week's episode of NCIS is still online, therefore, I can still watch it.

Since this is a Michelle thread, why can't we hope for the best for her or joke that she's can change the world with a flick of her hair or something?
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Likewise?

I never felt attacked, but thank you - one of the things I love about this forum, even when it is attacks there is still the decorous nature of compassion so prevalent on GS - although I did really like it. It is enjoyable to me and I hope these "heated / passionate conversations" are still appreciated. As well, hope they bring more hits to GS *bow and thanks Paula!* MK is wonderus to me, and she has been for a while to a lot of people. She is headed in a great new direction in her life and I think that is the inspiration that could be.
 
Boy, that was quick. I deleted my post as fast as i could so I wouldn't hurt anyone's feelings. :)
 
Boy, that was quick. I deleted my post as fast as i could so I wouldn't hurt anyone's feelings. :)

Hahah. Well, you didn't hurt mine. I laughed out loud, actually. What's the point of laughing if you can't laugh at yourself sometimes, right? :biggrin::laugh:

P.S. Does the word "providence" actually mean something or is it just the capital of RI?
 
Mathman, off topic question that I've always wanted to ask...

Is the doggie in your avatar an original creation or is it a mascot or cartoon character of some sort?
 
P.S. Does the word "providence" actually mean something or is it just the capital of RI?

It refers to the guiding spirit of God in human affairs.

Second meaning, having to do with planning for the future in a prudent way.

Is the doggie in your avatar an original creation or is it a mascot or cartoon character of some sort?

My wife is into the craft/hobby of rubber stamping. She made the picture for me from a stamped image.
 
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